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mcmagic posted:OK whoever said Eye of Ugin was the more broken land in the Eldrazi deck was right. Sigh.... I guess Tron is gonna get the splash ban. Mod, I think someone hijacked mcmagic's account. He's doing poo poo out of character, like admitting he's wrong. That or he had a stroke. Do you smell burnt toast, buddy?
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There's gotta be a player somewhere who's gone from playing birthing pod to splinter twin to tron and hasn't made the decision to quit yet. 
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BizarroAzrael posted:How much play did Madness see when it was last around? Did people build decks around it? I think UG Madness was the best deck. They're not gonna repeat that though because the whole deck was commons and uncommons and by gawd that doesn't sell packs.
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Chill la Chill posted:There's gotta be a player somewhere who's gone from playing birthing pod to splinter twin to tron and hasn't made the decision to quit yet. I think I would jump out the window if that was me. At least amulet lives on with 2explore1Azusa.
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Feb 12, 2016 16:46
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Chill la Chill posted:There's gotta be a player somewhere who's gone from playing birthing pod to splinter twin to tron and hasn't made the decision to quit yet. After Pod got banned I cynically bought in to Affinity. I had the stuff to play Twin but I never seriously played it, because apparently wotc hates combo. I have the stuff for Infect and Bogles too but I don't like playing either deck and haven't run them much. Meliraless Pod was such a fun deck :>
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Feb 12, 2016 16:48
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Hellsau posted:To be honest Tron could afford to take a hit. Losing Eye maybe might let a control deck actually exist, except for all the other reasons why control decks don't exist. Thats what I said. Losing the enevitability that Tron currently has will be a boost for blue based control strategies. Not sure its enough, but it sure is a move in the right direction. Also Sanctum of Ugin, while certainly not as good as Eye, is a potential replacement for Tron for that utility slot. mcmagic posted:OK whoever said Eye of Ugin was the more broken land in the Eldrazi deck was right. Sigh.... I guess Tron is gonna get the splash ban. Which deck did you play the UR 3 drop deck with drowner or the colorless chalice deck? jassi007 fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Feb 12, 2016 16:52
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rabidsquid posted:After Pod got banned I cynically bought in to Affinity. I had the stuff to play Twin but I never seriously played it, because apparently wotc hates combo. I have the stuff for Infect and Bogles too but I don't like playing either deck and haven't run them much. Don't be shocked next January if they continue to have Modern PT's if something from affinity gets the axe. Eye will get it in April for the SoI B&R update, then affinity gets hit in January.
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Feb 12, 2016 16:53
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My affinity deck only cost me about $300 and I also don't really enjoy it so it wouldn't bother me if it got banned out.
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Feb 12, 2016 16:58
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I think the fact that Affinity is easily hated out and tends to lose to faster aggro/combo like Infect means that it's not likely to be banned. But then again, if Twin got banned there's really no predicting things
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Feb 12, 2016 17:01
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jassi007 posted:Thats what I said. Losing the enevitability that Tron currently has will be a boost for blue based control strategies. Not sure its enough, but it sure is a move in the right direction. Also Sanctum of Ugin, while certainly not as good as Eye, is a potential replacement for Tron for that utility slot. The UR deck. It's stupid.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:11
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Angry Grimace posted:I think UG Madness was the best deck. They're not gonna repeat that though because the whole deck was commons and uncommons and by gawd that doesn't sell packs. UG Madness was never the best deck(although it won the block PT with the help of all-star Tarnished Citadel), but it was consistently tier 1 in INV/ODY standard. Less so in ODY/ONS standard iirc, but still a solid deck.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:20
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wake was the best deck in ody/ons  I mean, that or gobbo bidding.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:33
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Elyv posted:UG Madness was never the best deck(although it won the block PT with the help of all-star Tarnished Citadel), but it was consistently tier 1 in INV/ODY standard. Less so in ODY/ONS standard iirc, but still a solid deck. What would that deck have even used out of INV block besides Yavimaya Coast? I remember it being pretty much all ODY block, or at least I don't remember a lot from INV that played with the diacard/graveyard stuff from ODY.
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Zoness posted:wake was the best deck in ody/ons Landstill with Nantuko Monastery.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:59
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Why do CFB and SCG BOTH have Eldrazi vs Twin videos on both their websites? Who gives a poo poo? How is that in any way helpful for me going forward in the format?
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Angry Grimace posted:I think UG Madness was the best deck. They're not gonna repeat that though because the whole deck was commons and uncommons and by gawd that doesn't sell packs. I'm sure they could figure out a way to make the best build of madness require 12+ rare dual lands even if the nonland staples are still uncommons :iamafag: comedy option: circular logic reprint at rare, allegedly for limited reasons
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Feb 12, 2016 18:05
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Idea: instead of emergency banning the Eldrazi deck, emergency unban everything except the artifact lands, skullclamp, jitte, and top.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:08
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mcmagic posted:Why do CFB and SCG BOTH have Eldrazi vs Twin videos on both their websites? Who gives a poo poo? How is that in any way helpful for me going forward in the format? Because Pros loved Twin, and people are masturbating to the idea that Twin would have stopped the Eldrazi deck. Even though they are doing it against the tuned for aggro all in colorless version and not the Red/Blue version that seems to be stronger against a wider variety of decks.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:10
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ThePeavstenator posted:Idea: instead of emergency banning the Eldrazi deck, emergency unban everything except the artifact lands, skullclamp, jitte, and top. Never unban Hypergenesis.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:14
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Yeah, CFB and SCG did those videos because people are masturbating to Twin. Excellent analysis.
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mcmagic posted:Why do CFB and SCG BOTH have Eldrazi vs Twin videos on both their websites? Who gives a poo poo? How is that in any way helpful for me going forward in the format? Judging by the # of comments, lots of people. It's a free magic content website that sometimes posts fun casual content that people enjoy because fun things are fun and they're not beholden to only posting 100% serious professional-level content that helps mcmagic going forward in the format.
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mcmagic posted:Why do CFB and SCG BOTH have Eldrazi vs Twin videos on both their websites? Who gives a poo poo? How is that in any way helpful for me going forward in the format? Because if new busted deck beats old busted deck consistently it helps to better predict and incoming ban. The past weekend at the PT could have just been a fluke because no one was really prepared for the eldrazi menace, but if eldrazi beats twin consistently, and twin was banned that lets us draw conclusions.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:22
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Like Magic itself, I imagine there's a much larger casual audience of SCG and CFB than you realize. I don't play modern, barely get a half-dozen drafts in of any given format, but I'll watch some videos while I'm rocking my kid to sleep or whatever.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:25
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For obvious reasons: because obnoxious nerds won't shut the gently caress up that Twin would have saved the Pro Tour
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UG Madness was really really good and was such a huge portion of the field that at one point there was an Elves deck that had really lovely matchups against everything else but completely wrecked madness because there was nothing they could do about an active Wellwisher
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Angry Grimace posted:For obvious reasons: because obnoxious nerds won't shut the gently caress up that Twin would have saved the Pro Tour It's the, "But how would Rhonda Rousey do vs. a dude?" of Magic.
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Angry Grimace posted:For obvious reasons: because obnoxious nerds won't shut the gently caress up that Twin would have saved the Pro Tour That's why they made those Amulet Bloom videos too. Do you people really believe this
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rabidsquid posted:I haven't heard a good argument for not banning Eye other than people who play Tron, and I don't think it's a compelling argument. Like I said earlier, you can tell who plays Tron by which land they think will/should be banned. Mcmagic is the first Tron player I've seen admit that Eye is the correct ban. mcmagic posted:Why do CFB and SCG BOTH have Eldrazi vs Twin videos on both their websites? Who gives a poo poo? How is that in any way helpful for me going forward in the format? Because everyone is crying for WotC to free our savior, Splinter Twin, to save us from the Eldrazi menace. Why did Caleb Durward do the legacy and modern banned series? Because it's cool and interesting.
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Zoness posted:wake was the best deck in ody/ons The thing with Goblin Bidding is it wasn't really a good deck until Warchief and Siege Gang were printed in scourge and back then all the major standard tournaments were played before the third set in a block came out for some retarded reason so bidding was never really visible outside of like FNM until mirrodin
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C-Euro posted:What would that deck have even used out of INV block besides Yavimaya Coast? I remember it being pretty much all ODY block, or at least I don't remember a lot from INV that played with the diacard/graveyard stuff from ODY. As I remember it, it was more that Invasion was hugely overshadowed by Odyssey Block, to the point that full INV/ODY standard was basically Odyssey block strategies/synergies with cards from 7th and Invasion block mixed in if they happened to fit. IIRC, the tier 1 was: MBC, with Cabal Coffers powering out Mind Sludge and Skeletal Scrying against control and Innocent Blood, Chainer's Edict, and Mutilate holding the ground against creature decks. RG Beatdown("Frog in a Blender"), an extremely fast beatdown deck which could have easily been called RG Madness, although it at least ran Yavimaya Barbarian main(it needed more 2 drops, you see, and Psychatog blocks Yavimaya Barbarian very poorly) and FTK either main or board. UG Madness, a slower Wild Mongrel deck that ran more flashback cards and counterspells and so forth, and yes, literally zero maindeck cards not from Odyssey block except for Coasts. Tog(the actual best deck), built around the infamous Tog/Upheaval synergy. This one actually had cards from outside Odyssey block, with Counterspell, Nightscape Familiar, Repulse, and Fact or Fiction all being very important. The core strategy(and a lot of the cards) remained based in Odyssey block, though. Edit for Zoness: There was Squirrel Opposition, a deck which actually had a key piece not from Odyssey block(Opposition). Most of the cards were still The Odyssey-block All-Stars though. It was an era(Ody-Mirr as a whole), where the block decks were so powerful that you could take the best 2 decks in block, add in a standard roleplayer or two, and you had tier 1 decks. By Mirrodin people were bitching that Wizards was building the decks for us. Elyv fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:The thing with Goblin Bidding is it wasn't really a good deck until Warchief and Siege Gang were printed in scourge and back then all the major standard tournaments were played before the third set in a block came out for some retarded reason so bidding was never really visible outside of like FNM until mirrodin Yeah I was going off of worlds 2003 which was after scourge was released and had 4 wake, 1 gobbos, 1 slide, 1 reanimator, and 1 u/g madness in the top 8. Elyv posted:As I remember it, it was more that Invasion was hugely overshadowed by Odyssey Block, to the point that full INV/ODY standard was basically Odyssey block strategies/synergies with cards from 7th and Invasion block mixed in if they happened to fit. IIRC, the tier 1 was: way to forget the actual coolest deck of 2002 in squirrel opposition Zoness fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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I don't think Eldrazi would be a broken deck with either of the lands banned. It would just lose its consistency.
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suicidesteve posted:
If Randy's voice doesn't stab your ear like a knife, the Modern No-Banned list series he did is a lot of fun as well.
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Zoness posted:Yeah I was going off of worlds 2003 which was after scourge was released and had 4 wake, 1 gobbos, 1 slide, 1 reanimator, and 1 u/g madness in the top 8. Oh yeah I forgot about Worlds, but the tournaments that normal scrubs like me could aspire to play in were all before There wasn't even a standard pro tour back then lmao
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Cactrot posted:If Randy's voice doesn't stab your ear like a knife, the Modern No-Banned list series he did is a lot of fun as well. I hate randy's voice most of the time but I really like when he overreacts to clutch top decks. It's LIGHTNING HELIX vvv Lightning Axe owns but now it's uncommon and there's no Strangling Soot or Big Game Hunter or Gorgon Recluse to discard  . Hoping for some sweet madness cards to take their place.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:47
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Who else is hype for Lightning Axe in limited again?
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mcmagic posted:The UR deck. It's stupid. Yup, all you have to do is blap out 2 or 3 dudes in a turn to realize how dumb it is. Temple is honestly not horribly unfair, I think that they ideally leave it, ditch SSG and Eye and eldrazi decks in some form will be a real thing in modern. mcmagic posted:Why do CFB and SCG BOTH have Eldrazi vs Twin videos on both their websites? Who gives a poo poo? How is that in any way helpful for me going forward in the format? There was a lot of social media chatter about "yeah shouldn't have banned twin blah blah eldrazi mistake WOTC sucks" Making twin v. eldrazi videos gets eyeballs on the sites. Lot of people were curious/believe that twin would have checked the threat (it doesn't, not very well)
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UG Madness was the first deck I could play from just the packs I opened and it didn't matter if I had 4 Roar of the Wurm instead of Arrogant Wurm and liked playing 1 Genesis and a couple other pieces of jank and hated Aquamoeba. It just worked. Was an incredibly resilient core of cards. e: That is to say, this was for much more casual mtg than tournaments.
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:I appreciate the fact that Teroh's Faithful was a standard playable card more than anything tbqh Same but for Simoon and Undead Gladiator, the latter whose removal from the modo cube is a huge travesty. Zoness fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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