slidebite posted:

I can't imagine any booby traps would be expertly made by the honorary marine masterminds, maybe a bucket of water over a door frame and I doubt they could pull that off.

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FBI officials said Friday they haven't found any rigged explosives or booby traps at the national wildlife refuge in Oregon that had been seized by an armed group.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Of the last four, two are likely going to get some sort of probation and fines with maybe a small jail sentence. The guy that had a felony warrant is going to prison for an extended stay. It won't be at supermax. David Fry will go to a gentler correctional facility where he can receive adequate medical care because that boy ain't right.

Angela Christine posted:

One of the "traps" Fry showed us was a bunch of empty bottles and trash scattered around the perimeter, so if the FBI tries to sneak up on the camp in the dark they'll step on noisy trash and alert the patriots. Of course the trash was just randomly thrown around completely ineffectively. It's like they'd seen triplines hung with bottles and cans in movies, but couldn't manage that much effort.

Alan Smithee posted:

Home Alone reboot looking real bad

Angela Christine posted:

According to to tubby, David is a genius who "hacked" the government computers. We don't know what that means exactly, finding the on switch might count as wizardry to him. If he did any sort of shenanigans with government PCs he could be proper hosed.

Unbootable posted:

Can someone find me the instance where lavoy was going to betray fry and where the bundy boys kicked him out of the truck? I can't find news stories referencing this and I would love to shut down some sovcits.

Angela Christine posted:

What, no talk of the huge protest going on outside the courthouse right now?

https://twitter.com/HGTomato/status/698272494604701698

https://twitter.com/killendave/status/698278750664790016

Second american revolution looking good.

Unbootable posted:

Can someone find me the instance where lavoy was going to betray fry and where the bundy boys kicked him out of the truck? I can't find news stories referencing this and I would love to shut down some sovcits.

Three Olives posted:

Sometime I want someone to show up to one of these loony protests with a gay pride flag and just stand silently in the "crowd" and nod along with the speakers.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

every time i see sovcit i read it as "Soviet Citizen" in my head and get really confused for a fraction of a second

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Oregon militia standoff: final holdouts plead not guilty after surrender
A total of 25 people have been charged in the occupation of the Malheur national wildlife refuge, including protest leaders Ammon and Ryan Bundy


The final four holdouts at the Oregon militia standoff, who are charged with conspiring against the federal government, pleaded not guilty one day after their dramatic surrender.

David Fry, a 27-year-old occupier from Ohio and the very last protester to turn himself in after intense FBI negotiations, appeared in federal court in Portland on Friday, wearing a green anti-suicide smock. Fry initially refused to stand down, telling mediators in a phone call live-streamed on YouTube that he was willing to die for his anti-government beliefs and that he was having suicidal thoughts.

The other three who surrendered on Thursday – the 41st day of the armed occupation – before Fry did are Jeff Banta, a 46-year-old Nevada man, Sean Anderson, 47, of Riggins, Idaho, and his wife Sandy Anderson, 48.

A total of 25 people have been charged in the occupation of the Malheur national wildlife refuge, including protest leaders Ammon and Ryan Bundy, the sons of Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led a 2014 standoff against the government in Nevada.

The occupiers, who first seized the federal buildings on 2 January in protest of government land-use regulations and the imprisonment of two ranchers, are accused of impeding US officers with “force, intimidation and threats”.

The elder Cliven Bundy was also arrested on Wednesday night, on multiple federal charges stemming from his confrontation with the government two years ago.

Nevada assemblywoman Michele Fiore, a Republican lawmaker and supporter of the Bundys, was at federal court in Portland Friday afternoon – after skyrocketing to national fame for her critical role negotiating the surrender of the Malheur holdouts.

The final four jailed protesters were pleased to see Fiore in attendance at the packed court hearing, said Mike Arnold, Ammon’s attorney, who also sat in on the proceedings.

“They exchanged an emotional moment,” Arnold said, noting that Sandy Anderson was in tears when she arrived. “They blew kisses at one another. I think it gave [Sandy] the additional spirit to get through the hearing.”

Fry, too, seemed to be much calmer than he was during the tense standoff the day prior, Arnold said. “He appeared to be in good spirits.”

Because an earlier indictment against the occupation leaders was initially sealed, Ammon and others have not had an opportunity to enter a plea, Arnold added. At a 24 February arraignment, Ammon plans to plead not guilty, the attorney added.

Outside the courthouse, Fiore dominated a press conference, which included other out-of-state politicians and Bundy’s legal team. Fiore read out a statement from Ammon Bundy, which said that federal agencies have been “taking ranches, mines and properties all over the United States”.

The statement further defended the “hard stand” taken at the refuge[/b], and repeated the occupiers’ claim that the federal government had no right controlling the public land in rural Harney County.

Fiore supported the Bundys in her comments, declaring that the occupiers were arrested because “they exercised their political free speech”.[/b] She also criticized high levels of incarceration in the US and described the protesters as “a bunch of cowboys camping” whose actions did not warrant imprisonment.

When asked if she supported further armed demonstrations, Fiore responded, “Have you seen anyone at the refuge point a firearm at you?”


Moore also defended slain militia spokesman LaVoy Finicum, an Arizona rancher who state troopers shot and killed during an attempted arrest last month on a rural highway near the refuge.

Referencing his experience as a US army ranger, Moore claimed that Finicum was killed in an “ambush”, not unlike those Moore himself had “employed in foreign countries”.

Fiore, who gained attention last year for her gun-filled family Christmas card, was wearing a necklace with a miniature revolver during the news conference. She came close to tears when describing how her experiences as a “mother and grandmother” had guided her through her attempts to talk the last occupiers down.

Fiore earned cheers from a small crowd of around 20 pro-Bundy protesters who had gathered outside the courtroom early in the afternoon.

Waving “Don’t Tread on Me” signs and American flags, the protesters were a mixture of longtime patriot-movement activists and newer converts who had been mobilized by the occupation in Oregon.

Steve Shallenberger, a Portland resident who said he has been involved with “constitutionalism” since the early 1980s, said that his persistent worry was “government overreach”. He also slammed a political system that “only ever offers you the chance to support the lesser of two evils”.

Tom Oreste, also of Portland, said he became suspicious of the government after the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and the official explanations of it “which don’t stack up”.

In the US, the National Suicide Prevention Hotline is 1-800-273-8255. In the UK, the Samaritans can be contacted on 08457 90 90 90. In Australia, the crisis support service
Lifeline is on 13 11 14. Hotlines in other countries can be found here.

Angela Christine posted:

In a huge surprise move, the tarptastic 4 have pled not-guilty!


No pictures of Fry in his anti-suicide smock. Imagine I photoshopped his face in here.



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Angela Christine posted:

In a huge surprise move, the tarptastic 4 have pled not-guilty!

Slugnoid posted:

lol they made fry show up to court in a dress

Slugnoid posted:

lol they made fry show up to court in a dress

The Goatfather posted:

David Fry, a 27-year-old occupier from Ohio and the very last protester to turn himself in after intense FBI negotiations, appeared in federal court in Portland on Friday, wearing a green anti-suicide smock

Dely Apple posted:

They put you in one of these if you seem a suicide risk, as if he wasn't



Skyrim cavemen suit

Dely Apple posted:

They put you in one of these if you seem a suicide risk, as if he wasn't



Skyrim cavemen suit

Mel Mudkiper posted:

How exactly is that supposed to prevent suicide

Mel Mudkiper posted:

How exactly is that supposed to prevent suicide

The Goatfather posted:

An anti-suicide smock, Ferguson, turtle suit,[1] or suicide gown is a tear-resistant single-piece outer garment that is generally used to prevent a hospitalized, incarcerated, or otherwise detained individual from forming a noose with the garment to commit suicide. The smock is typically a simple, sturdily quilted, collarless, sleeveless gown with adjustable openings at the shoulders and down the front that are closed with nylon hook-and-loop or similar fasteners. The thickness of the garment makes it impossible to roll or fold the garment so it can be used as a noose. It is not a restraint and provides modesty and warmth while not impeding the mobility of the wearer.

The Goatfather posted:

An anti-suicide smock, Ferguson, turtle suit,[1] or suicide gown is a tear-resistant single-piece outer garment that is generally used to prevent a hospitalized, incarcerated, or otherwise detained individual from forming a noose with the garment to commit suicide. The smock is typically a simple, sturdily quilted, collarless, sleeveless gown with adjustable openings at the shoulders and down the front that are closed with nylon hook-and-loop or similar fasteners. The thickness of the garment makes it impossible to roll or fold the garment so it can be used as a noose. It is not a restraint and provides modesty and warmth while not impeding the mobility of the wearer.

Angela Christine posted:

Hazo posted:

None of the media articles even attempt to reference that tarpman was shot and killed while reaching for a gun, it's the dumbest loving thing

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Ah word, I was sitting there the whole time like "seems pretty easy to still slit your wrists imho"

Dely Apple posted:

They put you in one of these if you seem a suicide risk, as if he wasn't



Skyrim cavemen suit

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The takeaway here is to never admit you're feeling suicidal.

Young Freud posted:

Well, if you're that bad off, they're going to put you on suicide watch in a featureless room with nothing but you and that smock. The smock also makes things easier to search you, since there's no pockets to hide anything.

crowoutofcontext posted:

A simple blue tarp could have done the same job imo

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Nevada rancher Cliven D. Bundy asked for a court-appointed attorney as he made his first appearance Thursday in federal court following his arrest the night before at Portland International Airport.

Bundy, 69, his thinning salt-and-pepper hair slicked back, shuffled into the courtroom, chains at his ankles and wearing standard blue jail garb.

He pulled a pair of eyeglasses from a pocket of his jail shirt and spent nearly 30 minutes sitting beside an attorney, reviewing a 32-page federal complaint stemming from the 2014 standoff at his ranch northeast of Las Vegas.

Assistant federal public defender Ruben Iniguez was appointed to represent Bundy for the day but said his office couldn't continue to represent him because it represents others in the case.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Janice M. Stewart directed Bundy to present a financial affidavit to the court before a court-appointed attorney could be assigned.

"The court only appoints counsel for those who can't afford an attorney,'' Stewart said.

...

Bundy's request for a court-appointed lawyer sparked outrage on social media, with many questioning on Twitter and Facebook how someone who is so anti-government suddenly wants the government to pay for his legal representation.

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Courtroom drawing of Cliven Bundy consulting with assistant federal public defender Ruben Iniguez at his first appearance in U.S. District Court in Portland, February 11, 2016. Sketch by Abigail Marble.

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Scott Phoenix of Newberg brought a sign to the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse in Portland, February 11, 2016 where Cliven Bundy is having an arraignment. Kristyna Wentz-Graff/Staff

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If convicted, Bundy faces up to five years in prison on the conspiracy charge, up to 10 years in prison on the obstruction of justice charge, up to 20 years in prison on the assault on a federal law enforcement and interference with commerce by extortion charges and a mandatory minimum consecutive seven years on the use and carry of a firearm in relation to a crime a violence charge. The charges could also bring up to $250,000 per count.