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Drakes posted:Capping is a secondary objective, usually done by lights to divert attention from the frontlines when you charge in and shoot the enemy in the butt. Anything outside of murderball/turtling is disasterous with how passively pubbies play. But tapping the cap briefly then running off can be good for drawing acouple mechs from the frontlines. Remember the days when you could just shut off skirmish entirely?
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Yolomon Wayne posted:I really dont know. To be absolutely blunt it's an issue with 90s grad school marketing strategy on Niche Markets vs f2p markets and nascent "micro transactions" and what that actually means.
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Feb 13, 2016 07:28
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I think I remember a post by Gabe Newell how they ran some experiments on steam and started dropping prices by half. The amount of money they made went up, so the dropped it by half again. They made even more money again. They kept doing and making more and more money. I'll see if I can find it. e: http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell/
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starkebn posted:I think I remember a post by Gabe Newell how they ran some experiments on steam and started dropping prices by half. The amount of money they made went up, so the dropped it by half again. They made even more money again. They kept doing and making more and more money. 19, please rub this all over your coworkers faces.
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Feb 13, 2016 09:00
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I will never buy a 50 dollar mech, but I would buy more than ten 5 dollar mechs.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:00
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Stalker or King Crab? I'm liking the little kid bambambam from the Trial crab, but I hear the Stalker's pretty good too. Still waiting for a GIRL invite - game name is Slobbergoat.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:02
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http://metamechs.com/mwo-guides/is-master-guides/griffin/ This thing says the 3m is just hands down the best, don't ever sell the 3m, and he didn't feel like doing a writeup on the 2n yet. Is ECM a crutch? Should I get that radar deprivation and learn to be patient with the 3m or is it fine to want to be missile repellent? All I see that's different is a bunch more component armor in the 3m. I have five mech bays, i'm all full up, I had enough XP lying around to get all the 3m elite skills. If I think the 2n is my favorite I sure would like to free up a mech bay and get a cheetah or something. Which do I sell and which do I keep? 1n is just weird and I'm going to toss it once it's elite'd out. Maybe even before then.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:05
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JacksAngryBiome posted:I will never buy a 50 dollar mech, but I would buy more than ten 5 dollar mechs. Is what im saying, but THEY DONT LISTEN. The world would be a better place if all mtx was below 5 bucks.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:08
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Is what im saying, but THEY DONT LISTEN. I think the problem may be that they've charged people the high price for so long that they're scared of the backlash from whales if they drop prices across the board.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:48
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Fil5000 posted:I think the problem may be that they've charged people the high price for so long that they're scared of the backlash from whales if they drop prices across the board. On the other hand, how much money do you lose if someone who has bought virtually everything leaves?
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Feb 13, 2016 10:50
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Yolomon Wayne posted:On the other hand, how much money do you lose if someone who has bought virtually everything leaves? I'm not saying it's smart.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:55
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It pains me to see how much many games are NOT achieving these days, by virtue of unadultered greed/stupidity.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:57
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Fil5000 posted:I think the problem may be that they've charged people the high price for so long that they're scared of the backlash from whales if they drop prices across the board. That maybe apart of it, I kinda feel mech games have become quite niche over the years. And niche games are where they can really gouge die-hard fans/grognards.
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Concerning the event, anyone have the 30kmdd yet? id like to know if i should chase it or not. e: quote:Valentines Challenge - Faction Play - 1000gxp Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 13, 2016 12:34
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So, is the AMS working at all anymore? I've been running it on my Wolfhound and I get completely wrecked by LRMs...
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Krinkle posted:GRF-3M vs GRF-2N I went with the 2N. ECM is not a crutch, it's a tool that should be used whenever it's presented. It allows you to be a support mech, providing umbrella support to team mates. Or you can sneak around with some map awareness and wreck some LRMBoats. The biggest difference between the two is that the 3M has SRM4 cool down quirks. Which means it fires volleys 10% faster. It also has a torso twist speed increase. The 2N has ECM option, faster missile speed, but slower torso twist and only 5% missile cool down (3M has a collective 15%). So you have to ask yourself if you want a slightly better brawler over a pretty solid brawler with ECM. Hope this helps you with your conundrum.
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Fil5000 posted:I think the problem may be that they've charged people the high price for so long that they're scared of the backlash from whales if they drop prices across the board. "We're giving everyone who purchased at the old rates free premium time and/or MC to make up the difference" and then leave the $500 golden mistakes as-is. Also get rid of mechbays while they're at it. It's a gating mechanism to get people to spend real money on the game, but if the real money prices were reasonable that gating mechanism wouldn't be useful in the first place since I'm willing to bet most people find the idea of spending $5 to get something now more appealing than grinding 5-10 days to buy it later with in-game currency, while spending $50 to do the same thing is far less appealing. grissenko posted:So, is the AMS working at all anymore? I've been running it on my Wolfhound and I get completely wrecked by LRMs... AMS is not an LRM umbrella. AMS reduces the damage by shooting down part of the salvo, but it's completely unnecessary, especially for a fast light `Mech like the wolfhound. Try to keep your `Mech near tall pieces of cover like buildings or large rocks, and duck behind them if you get an LRM warning. Most of those LRMs will hit the rock/building instead of you. Saving up for a Radar Deprivation module (15k GXP, 6 million c-bills) is absolutely worthwhile, especially if you're piloting a light `Mech. Being able to instantly break LRM locks just by ducking behind cover for half a second is incredibly handy. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 13, 2016 13:38
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Raged posted:WoL is touring Clan Space? Sweeeeeet. Not WoL, GIRL.
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PoptartsNinja posted:"We're giving everyone who purchased at the old rates free premium time and/or MC to make up the difference" and then leave the $500 golden mistakes as-is. Imagine the amount of free MC they would have to give away to the whales. Then imagine the look on Russ' face as he does the maths on what that MC is 'worth'. It's a scary, scary prospect for them. It'd be smarter to do it than not, but the inertia they've got with their current prices is huge.
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PoptartsNinja posted:"We're giving everyone who purchased at the old rates free premium time and/or MC to make up the difference" and then leave the $500 golden mistakes as-is. I'm not sure what was going on there for about five matches, but NOTHING was stopping LRMs hitting my light. Dodging into tall cover, getting under minimum range, the lot: nothing. I swapped a BAP into it and either I wasn't getting targeted anymore or suddenly my 'Mech was no longer a missile magnet. Haven't had any problems since I made the post, though. I appreciate the advice, the Radar Deprivation module is on my shopping list.
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Feb 13, 2016 14:47
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I'm sorry but if I can dodge LRMs behind buildings in a Black Knight, you can dodge them in a wolfhound.
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Feb 13, 2016 14:57
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grissenko posted:I appreciate the advice, the Radar Deprivation module is on my shopping list. It is absolutely worth it. I wasn't convinced any module was worth the money but having Radar Derp is like night and day.
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Feb 13, 2016 14:58
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Holy poo poo man. I peeped the new patch notes. Who is ready to bow down to their new timberwolf/direwolf lords? No more negative weapon quirks? Shits crazy.
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Feb 13, 2016 16:34
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grissenko posted:So, is the AMS working at all anymore? I've been running it on my Wolfhound and I get completely wrecked by LRMs... AMS works, to an extent. Large IS LRM volleys are more resistant to AMS than clan missile streams. SRMs aren't around enough for AMS to do much. Massed AMS is far, far more effective than lone AMS. If you're running around by yourself in your wolfhound, and several mechs light you up with missiles, it won't do much for you. If you're in a group of AMS mechs, you'll really notice the difference. If you're running around and solo sniping, radar derp will do you more good than AMS.
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A.o.D. posted:AMS works, to an extent. Large IS LRM volleys are more resistant to AMS than clan missile streams. SRMs aren't around enough for AMS to do much. Massed AMS is far, far more effective than lone AMS. If you're running around by yourself in your wolfhound, and several mechs light you up with missiles, it won't do much for you. If you're in a group of AMS mechs, you'll really notice the difference. As a rule of thumb you need 5 AMS mechs to counter one mech's worth of LRMs. It's a terrible option.
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Endbuster posted:Holy poo poo man. I peeped the new patch notes. Who is ready to bow down to their new timberwolf/direwolf lords? No more negative weapon quirks? Shits crazy. Twolves will still have large side torsoes and slow torso twist. Direwolves will still be glacially slow. The negative quirks on a direwolf are largely inconsequential as the best builds usually don't use the components that have the bad quirks.
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yay I only just bought my timber yesterday and didn't read the negative quirks lol
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A.o.D. posted:Twolves will still have large side torsoes and slow torso twist. Direwolves will still be glacially slow. The negative quirks on a direwolf are largely inconsequential as the best builds usually don't use the components that have the bad quirks. Are you someone that only uses metamechs builds and is incapable of theorycrafting your own stuff? Sounds like your stuck in the past man. The point is, that's all gonna change. Timberwolf is still the highest average damage mech for me at 600 dmg per game average. Those horrible modules with great hardpoint layouts? You can stack them now. Its gonna b gud. Endbuster fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Stringbean posted:I'm sorry but if I can dodge LRMs behind buildings in a Black Knight, you can dodge them in a wolfhound. And sometimes you dont dodge missiles in a fullspeed cheetah running through crimson straight cityscape, and god knows why.
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19 are you willing to turn over your customer database to me so that i may fulfill my dream of murdering every single pubbie with my bare hands?
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Endbuster posted:Are you someone that only uses metamechs builds and is incapable of theorycrafting your own stuff? Sounds like your stuck in the past man. The A side torso is a gigantic trap because it gives every enemy a huge target to aim for. If someone is running the A torso you know they'll lose 50-90% of their weapons if you blow it off. But yeah man, it was the negative quirks that were keeping it down.
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someone did the math on the MASC changes -- SCH top speed goes from 114 to 128. 400XL Spirit Bear will get to run at about 90 KPH
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Pattonesque posted:someone did the math on the MASC changes -- SCH top speed goes from 114 to 128. 400XL Spirit Bear will get to run at about 90 KPH That's actually terrifying
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ZenVulgarity posted:That's actually terrifying You'll just be meandering along when suddenly there's a bear in your team eating your Urbanmechs! 
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A Curvy Goonette posted:The A side torso is a gigantic trap because it gives every enemy a huge target to aim for. If someone is running the A torso you know they'll lose 50-90% of their weapons if you blow it off. But yeah man, it was the negative quirks that were keeping it down. I was talking more about the arms that had the +4/-4 cooldown/duration stuff, also the A pod is fine for certain builds... But I guess you don't know those, or care to learn about them. AND what kind of idiot just lets the enemy peg their torso. Probably one that runs the A torso and tries to brawl... The point is, the the mech is going to get better and its already very very good. If you wanted both arms to boat lasers, you were taking a big hit to laser duration, which sucked. Endbuster fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Timberwolves have never been a problem for me. Dire Wolves an Warhawks though, tend to eat my lunch unless I have higher ground. My most hated mechs are Cicadas and Jenner II-Cs.
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I wish mech bay gating wasn't a loving thing it is the most irritating thing
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Endbuster posted:Are you someone that only uses metamechs builds and is incapable of theorycrafting your own stuff? Sounds like your stuck in the past man. hahahahahha ahahahahahaah AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Oh wow they really did something to Blackjacks edit: By "did something" I mean "dorked in the pooper" Tujague fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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ZenVulgarity posted:That's actually terrifying 100ton motherfucking armored bears are terrifying. 100ton motherfucking armored bear comming at you at 90kph qualify as lovecraftian.
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