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Morroque posted:From the Canadian equivalent of The Onion: 
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Feb 14, 2016 02:40
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First it turns out Xander is a criminally violent drunk, and now this. 
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Feb 14, 2016 02:41
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Caught Mr. Clinton trying not to smile from ear to ear on CNN.
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Feb 14, 2016 02:44
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Abel Wingnut posted:no. he's a member of the executive branch Kagan was nominated when she was still a member of the executive branch
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Feb 14, 2016 02:45
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mastershakeman posted:On the condition he resigned I don't see a problem
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Feb 14, 2016 02:45
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They can't serve in both branches at once. Until confirmation, they're not a member of the judicial branch.
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Feb 14, 2016 02:46
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Feb 14, 2016 02:47
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Obama like "hell yeah I'll nominate a replacement and I'll get them confirmed too"
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Feb 14, 2016 02:49
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Obama just spoke, didn't say much other than that he intends to make a nomination.
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Feb 14, 2016 02:50
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Obama's statement: "Scalia died, it sucks. No, really I'm deeply saddened you guys. After we mourn I'm going to do my duty and nominate a replacement and I expect the Senate to do their job and not gently caress around until after November's elections like they immediately stated they'd do."
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Feb 14, 2016 02:52
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Someone, Some Hero finally destroyed his final horcrux. Just heard the news a few hours ago and went out and bought a case of the best local microbrew beer I could afford. Don't feel guilty about being happy over his death he was absolutely a great force of evil in the world and we are all better off with out him. I know it might seem ghoulish to celebrate and I do have some sympathy for his family members who may indeed be decent people but Scalia was not at all and would have no sympathy for any of you. Here's hoping this becomes the US version of the UKpol thread after Thatcher died, especially because the political ramifications of this death will be very meaningful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU7gnMSzf_c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XO-8SmOQ84 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzVFugFcUto
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Feb 14, 2016 02:54
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spoon0042 posted:Obama just spoke, didn't say much other than that he intends to make a nomination. "I'm going to try and do my job, whether the Republicans like it or not" is a pretty good stance to take. I'm more curious if he'll make an emergency appointment before the Senate is back on the 22nd. My gut tells me no - since it's probably better to not let the Republicans play the Executive overreach card as an excuse for doing nothing - but on the other hand we're in full on Trollbama mode, so who knows.
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Feb 14, 2016 02:55
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Moments after Obama announces his intention to make a new nomination for the Supreme Court, Scalia's pallid, cold body shudders, shakes, and then with shocking quickness sits straight up on its slab. He vomits formaldehyde, and the crude sutures holding together his clammy skin rupture. The corrupt, rotten flesh that had for so long encumbered and weakened him sloughs away as he rises to his feet, exposing an skeleton formed of some sort of meteoric alloy, inscribed with strange runes from no language this Earth has ever known. He falls to his knees and screeches in a tone that calls to sleeping nightmares in every forgotten, tenebrous corner of the Earth. The world is not done with Scalia, yet - his death has simply purified and strengthened him for the critical work to be done in the coming year.
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Feb 14, 2016 02:56
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Sydin posted:"I'm going to try and do my job, whether the Republicans like it or not" is a pretty good stance to take. Some posters have mentioned that Congress has been in a state of Pro forma sessions. Which technically means they are not in recess.
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Feb 14, 2016 02:59
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Platonicsolid posted:They can't serve in both branches at once. Until confirmation, they're not a member of the judicial branch. Yes they can. Law only forbids someone from serving in Congress while also holding an office of the United States. It says nothing about being in the executive and judicial at the same time.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:00
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biznatchio posted:Yes they can. Law only forbids someone from serving in Congress while also holding an office of the United States. It says nothing about being in the executive and judicial at the same time. Technically correct, Scalia would approve. e: Time for the debate, let's see how long this takes to go complete shitshow.
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With full knowledge of how hopelessly naive this sounds I find it really hard to believe that Republicans will think it is politically advantageous to stall out an entire branch of government just because they don't like they president for 11 months when they haven't even nominated someone to replace him yet. Just politically how do you make the argument that you should be trusted with governance when you won't even hold a hearing to fill a Supreme Court justice opening just because you don't like the president?
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Feb 14, 2016 03:05
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Tea baggers aren't rational. Nor are their voters.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:07
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Three Olives posted:With full knowledge of how hopelessly naive this sounds I find it really hard to believe that Republicans will think it is politically advantageous to stall out an entire branch of government just because they don't like they president for 11 months when they haven't even nominated someone to replace him yet.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:07
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They're going to play up how it isn't faaaaaaaaaaaaair that Obama got to nominate all these Supreme Court Justices just because that's what the American People elected him to do, twice.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:09
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Three Olives posted:With full knowledge of how hopelessly naive this sounds I find it really hard to believe that Republicans will think it is politically advantageous to stall out an entire branch of government just because they don't like they president for 11 months when they haven't even nominated someone to replace him yet. You obviously haven't been paying attention to the current Congress. They can and will completely stonewall a Constitutional process for a full year - all the while playing themselves up as true patriots who are trying to uphold the American way - just to spite Obama.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:12
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Sydin posted:You obviously haven't been paying attention to the current Congress. They can and will completely stonewall a Constitutional process for a full year - all the while playing themselves up as true patriots who are trying to uphold the American way - just to spite
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Feb 14, 2016 03:13
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Also on the hopelessly naive side, realistically do conservatives believe they can appoint someone as far right or even as right as Scalia? Scalia for real believed and argued that the police should be allowed to break into gay people's homes and arrest them for having sex and that innocence wasn't a sufficient argument against the death penalty There is a very real chance that Democrats take control of the Senate and presidency in January and appoint someone far more left than Obama would realistically nominate right now and very little chance that they could appoint someone even with winning the presidency and retaining the Senate that wouldn't be left of Scalia at least on social issues.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:18
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BouncingBuckyBalls posted:This is a better day for politics then the current election. gently caress that man for sticking his beliefs into the rule of law. I can only give this thread one reagans's death meant that the echoes of reagan's legacy were now the fault of a dead man that we couldnt really curse after that day and we had a long depressing road ahead of dealing with his long tail scalia's death means that one of those echoes is gone
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Feb 14, 2016 03:28
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for the announcement and it beats hearing about Thatcher or Regan passing.
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This is truly an achievement for Scalia himself. He has become one with the ideals he proudly espoused.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:29
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How long until the republicans canonize him to go along with Saint Reagan?
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Feb 14, 2016 03:32
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The Glumslinger posted:How long until the republicans canonize him to go along with Saint Reagan? So what would Reagan do https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/698682511350755328
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Feb 14, 2016 03:32
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I hated just about everything Scalia believed but he still made very good arguments. There's no situation where Obama nominates someone very liberal because they would burn the senate down. The question is how much of a comprimise does he make. This is a giant big loving deal relt alert shift in the Court regardless.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:37
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Bishop posted:I hated just about everything Scalia believed but he still made very good arguments. There's no situation where Obama nominates someone very liberal because they would burn the senate down. The question is how much of a comprimise does he make. This is a giant big loving deal relt alert shift in the Court regardless. I don't think there's any compromise. Any Republican who's running for re-election will have to vote no just to save their skins, and the best way to do that is to play defense and not have a vote at all. It's a long rear end road to kick the can down but dammit if the GOP isn't gonna try and do just that.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:40
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Three Olives posted:Also on the hopelessly naive side, realistically do conservatives believe they can appoint someone as far right or even as right as Scalia? Scalia for real believed and argued that the police should be allowed to break into gay people's homes and arrest them for having sex and that innocence wasn't a sufficient argument against the death penalty Serious question: how good of a chance is this? The presidency I could see, although personally I think it'll be a really close election. But senate wise that a lot of seats to win to gain control again, and it never seems like the Dems have the movement of the republicans recently.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:43
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Three Olives posted:Also on the hopelessly naive side, realistically do conservatives believe they can appoint someone as far right or even as right as Scalia? Scalia for real believed and argued that the police should be allowed to break into gay people's homes and arrest them for having sex and that innocence wasn't a sufficient argument against the death penalty That second one, the one that generated the fake quote, really isn't that bad- it's just really easy to misrepresent the decision. That said... Bishop posted:I hated just about everything Scalia believed but he still made very good arguments.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:54
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RBG going to retire at the end of the term now.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:56
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MayakovskyMarmite posted:RBG going to retire at the end of the term now. If, lord above forbid, the Republicans win she better literally hang on to dear life for at least another 4 years.
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Feb 14, 2016 03:59
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Three Olives posted:With full knowledge of how hopelessly naive this sounds I find it really hard to believe that Republicans will think it is politically advantageous to stall out an entire branch of government just because they don't like they president for 11 months when they haven't even nominated someone to replace him yet. Well technically, there is no set number of justices. Nine is just convention because they need an odd number to break ties.
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Feb 14, 2016 04:06
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spoon0042 posted:Yeah, that's an amazing quote. Or paraphrase I hope. The government torturing confessions out of people? Nothing wrong with that! Let's take a moment to remember he said it on network television, when the interview host asked him about cruel and unusual punishment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPqjCM6e5oM I think what makes this particular statement so memorable is that from a certain point of view he was technically correct: interrogation isn't punishment. But this is the kind of weaselly, hair-splitting argument, going against every grain of good sense, that you expect from a comic-book villain kind of lawyer, or one from a bad joke. The world is better off without him. May God have mercy on his soul.
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Feb 14, 2016 04:10
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If Pres. Obama wants to fully cause a Republican meltdown: "I am proud to nominate the first black, female, lesbian, atheist to the Supreme Court."
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Feb 14, 2016 04:12
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Three Olives posted:Also on the hopelessly naive side, realistically do conservatives believe they can appoint someone as far right or even as right as Scalia? Scalia for real believed and argued that the police should be allowed to break into gay people's homes and arrest them for having sex and that innocence wasn't a sufficient argument against the death penalty if youre a rep in congress who's up for reelection then you dont wanna compromise cause you'll get smashed in primaries. i could maybe see a confirmation later on after theyre not at risk anymore but at that point why not just wait a few weeks longer and see what happens
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Well technically, there is no set number of justices. Nine is just convention because they need an odd number to break ties. fdr learned that you are wrong the hard way
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