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Vahakyla posted:I took a nap and woke up to this. Ran downstairs to cheer with my wife, but felt kinda bad about it. Yeah you really goofed because you could have known sooner 
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eviltastic posted:Was it an unpleasant nap or something? Crick in your neck? Well I mean it's like Mr. Glass in Unbreakable; every superhero needs a supervillain. What am I now?
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Feb 14, 2016 05:03
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The beautiful thing is that Scalia's lasting legacy is going to be that his old-man-yells-at-cloud dissent in Windsor was cited by lower courts in the lead up to Obergefell.
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Feb 14, 2016 05:08
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Everytime you're giddy that Scalia is dead take a drink
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Cheekio posted:Everytime you're giddy that Scalia is dead take a drink I'd rather not join him so soon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU7gnMSzf_c The appropriate response to this tragedy.
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Cheekio posted:Everytime you're giddy that Scalia is dead take a drink But I need to breathe, too!
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Cheekio posted:Everytime you're giddy that Scalia is dead take a drink Even if it wasn't alcohol I'd still die from water poisoning. Ogmius815 posted:Obama should nominate Richard Posner, just for laughs. I saw this as Richard Beltzer and got my hopes up. 
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Feb 14, 2016 05:27
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I found out in a group chat and was shaking I was so happy. I was then upset because after telling my brother and cheering with my husband, I had no one else I could celebrate with that would care or understand. 
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Feb 14, 2016 05:39
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Charliegrs posted:Man, I wish people cared this much. Most people couldnt even tell you how many Supreme Court justices there are. Only political wonky type people are going to care or even know about the impending confirmation clusterfuck we are headed for. Thats why I dont think this will have much of an effect on the presidential election. It will probably just go into "Congress sure sucks" bucket that never seems to affect how people vote in their own elections.
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Feb 14, 2016 05:40
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I can't be excited that a man is dead, but man what a horrible rear end in a top hat he was. I hope the people who loved him are okay.
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Feb 14, 2016 05:40
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If you loved Antonin Scalia, you were never okay to begin with.
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Cheekio posted:Everytime you're giddy that Scalia is dead take a drink  Down to the vodka, drat you scalia
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Feb 14, 2016 05:48
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Involuntary Sparkle posted:I found out in a group chat and was shaking I was so happy. I was then upset because after telling my brother and cheering with my husband, I had no one else I could celebrate with that would care or understand. Dude I'm f5'ing this page waiting for more people to post. I want to stop people on the street all like, Have you heard the good news?
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Feb 14, 2016 05:48
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I've already cracked open the good beer. I'll probably grab another if I stop feeling happy over the fact that that shitmonkey can't gently caress up any more 5-4 votes.
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Feb 14, 2016 05:49
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Do you think his blood pressure was just too high after reading all of those furious rants from the bench?
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Feb 14, 2016 05:50
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as if 2016 wasn't crazy enough yet with the election going on. just watch there be another recession and government shutdown too, because poo poo ain't crazy enough yet.
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Being such a hateful gently caress takes a big toll on the ol cardiovascular health, is all I'm sayin...
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Someone on Gawker suggested that Obama should nominate Hillary, because the Republicans would be falling all over themselves to get her out of the presidential race.
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e:doublepost but it was worth it anyway
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Cheekio posted:Dude I'm f5'ing this page waiting for more people to post. Oh man same here. I live in Seattle, noted Socialism Haven, and wanted to just go up to everyone. Here, I figured the worst I'd get was "who cares?"
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Lol, Obama summarizes scalia´s wikipedia page and steps off with an (almost) imperceptible skip in his step.
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Withnail posted:Lol, Obama summarizes scalia´s wikipedia page and steps off with an (almost) imperceptible skip in his step. Obama hasn't looked so lively in years
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The way I'm reading this, and someone will correct me if I'm off base here, but Republicans already tend to turn out reliably. If this new development leads to obstruction in the Senate, even if Republican turnout increases it might also simultaneously seriously amp up Democratic GOTV efforts and if they move the turnout needle more than the GOP can (likely) this event will be a net gain for Democrats in a purely electoral sense. This doesn't even include the "gains" to be made from a lack of potential 5-4 splits. If another Democratic president is elected and the current vacancy gets filled between Obama and the next person, there's a possibility of someone like Ginsburg dying during the term and her position being filled by someone with 30-40 years left in them. If my read is correct and Obama nominates a relatively centrist and well respected judge, the GOP might have to hold their nose and let it through or risk cutting themselves on the wires which are currently threatening to bind them. It's going to be fascinating to watch however it unfolds though, that's for drat sure. edit: wording
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I am really starting to get excited about the prospect of disparate impact being a thing in the court, racists are going to have a bad time if that starts taking place.
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berserker posted:I took a nap and when I woke up one of my life nemeses has eaten and then kicked the bucket. I'm of mixed emotions. I went and saw a Disney movie with my awesome six-year-old daughter, had my phone off, returned home, took a nap with the kid on the couch, and woke up to like thirty texts because Scalia loving died. I have no mixed emotions: today was one of the greatest days of my life.
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Chadderbox posted:The way I'm reading this, and someone will correct me if I'm off base here, but Republicans already tend to turn out reliably. If this new development leads to obstruction in the Senate, even if Republican turnout increases it might also simultaneously seriously amp up Democratic GOTV efforts and if they move the turnout needle more than the GOP can (likely) this event will be a net gain for Democrats in a purely electoral sense. This doesn't even include the "gains" to be made from a lack of potential 5-4 splits. Ted Cruz is on the judiciary committee and he'll give exactly zero fucks about what anyone else says. If stonewalling Obama on this helps Ted then Ted's going to sabotage everything even if it costs the GOP the Senate. He is a King of the Ashes politician. e: I'm more fearful that we'll get a center-right nominee because Obama will simply want to get a new justice confirmed rather than nominating a solid left or even center-left person who would be DOA in the Senate.
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alnilam posted:Being such a hateful gently caress takes a big toll on the ol cardiovascular health, is all I'm sayin... Dude almost hit 80. For all we know, he thrived on it.
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FAUXTON posted:I am really starting to get excited about the prospect of disparate impact being a thing in the court, racists are going to have a bad time if that starts taking place. explain the implications?
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Alan Smithee posted:explain the implications? Disparate impact is the result of poo poo like Atwater talked about - leveraging the generationally-established poverty of minorities to allow for targeted discrimination by just cutting things economically. They are able to be like "WE AIN'T RACIST WE JES' HATE TAXES" and whoopty dee it always results in black people getting poo poo on. Disparate impact being considered as meriting consideration means that Atwater poo poo is a lot harder to defend in court.
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Cheekio posted:Dude I'm f5'ing this page waiting for more people to post. 
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FAUXTON posted:Disparate impact is the result of poo poo like Atwater talked about - leveraging the generationally-established poverty of minorities to allow for targeted discrimination by just cutting things economically. They are able to be like "WE AIN'T RACIST WE JES' HATE TAXES" and whoopty dee it always results in black people getting poo poo on. It could also mean that suddenly a whole lot of 5-4 conservative rulings get called in to question, or at least their results. We'd also potentially get the VRA un-hosed since a court with 5 left leaning justices is likely going to be hard to convince that why no, those red states aren't being racist or otherwise trying to cripple the voting power of their opponents, it just happens to be the result of... things.
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So on one hand, a person died, and that is a sad thing. In all honestly, I found Obama's speech profoundly disrespectful, because he clearly didn't care enough to even fake caring about it, and it would have been better to not give a speech at all than to do him that dishonor on public television. Even discounting what you may think of the man, he had a family, and the knowledge that some people are actively celebrating his passing must be painful for them. As a fellow human being, Scalia is worthy of our respect, though not our admiration or agreement. On the other hand... Ding, dong, the witch is dead! (But seriously, I'd rather he'd just retired.) Karia fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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I know her name was brought up already, but I think the right move for Obama would be to nominate Jane Kelly. She was appointed unanimously in 2013, the fastest appointment in Obama's term, with support from both Iowa senators, and Grassley is still the chairperson of the Judiciary committee, so he'd have to basically go back on his approval of her. Plus, she spent the 20 years before being an appeals judge as a public defender, which is something the higher courts don't really have. I might be biased because she worked in Iowa for so long, but it would be pretty hard to find a reason not to nominate her save for a blatant political move, and that's what the Republicans are trying to avoid.
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Chadderbox posted:The way I'm reading this, and someone will correct me if I'm off base here, but Republicans already tend to turn out reliably. If this new development leads to obstruction in the Senate, even if Republican turnout increases it might also simultaneously seriously amp up Democratic GOTV efforts and if they move the turnout needle more than the GOP can (likely) this event will be a net gain for Democrats in a purely electoral sense. This doesn't even include the "gains" to be made from a lack of potential 5-4 splits. Correct, except Ginsberg has been looking to retire for a while. Evil Fluffy posted:e: I'm more fearful that we'll get a center-right nominee because Obama will simply want to get a new justice confirmed rather than nominating a solid left or even center-left person who would be DOA in the Senate. It's looking incredibly unlikely that any Obama nominee will make it through. Even if by some miracle a center-right justice was confirmed, that would still be an order of magnitude better than the Justice they would be replacing.
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Karia posted:In all honestly, I found Obama's speech profoundly disrespectful, Then he did his job. quote:(But seriously, I'd rather he'd just retired.) I'd agree, if he'd done it 30 years ago.
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It's like The Rainmaker when Al from Quantum Leap is the good ol boy judge and keels over dead, replaced by liberal Danny Glover lol
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