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laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Light Gun Man posted:

I remember back in high school someone bragging about how they could download a half hour episode of south park....in just one hour :c00l:

They were talking about some postage stamp resolution .rm thing too probably.

When eMule became popular, me and my friend were downloading that new hot series which was way better than SP called Family Guy

The fact that our English comprehension allowed us to only get 20% of the jokes wasn't an issue, we had something virtually unknown here and that made us feel better than peons with Canal+ who could watch subbed episodes, like, twice a week

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Real Media was so lovely that even on the low resolutions that were available back then, it was still tiny and unwatchable.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Light Gun Man posted:

They were talking about some postage stamp resolution .rm thing too probably.
That is one thing I don't loving miss. Having to encode the same goddamn sad couch blowjob into a dozen realmedia, quicktime and mpeg2 chunks.

edit: and, eventually, flv! :suicide:

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004

Cojawfee posted:

Real Media was so lovely that even on the low resolutions that were available back then, it was still tiny and unwatchable.

lovely .rm porn was still better than scrambled cable tv porn

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

John Big Booty posted:

edit: and, eventually, flv! :suicide:

lol I thought you said .fli for a second.

The first porn video I ever saw was a .fli file on a floppy disk. I'm glad it was low res and a few seconds long because man was that lady ugly.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Negrostrike posted:

I watched some episodes of South Park in their entirety on that thing back in 98.

Streaming.

56 kbps.

Same. The cable company where I went to college didn't carry Comedy Central, and there really wasn't much other alternative at the time.

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


Keith Atherton posted:

I bought an original iPod when they came out with a Windows version. You had to install a third party file management program for your PC which was a lot worse than iTunes.




loving windows version originally came with Musicmatch Jukebox


if u think itunes is bad then go try that out and see how bad it can really be


if u were cool u used ephpod instead

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
Warez was so much more involved back then. Games would have poo poo ripped out and split into like 10+ archives which would take forever to download. Downloading was unreliable back then as well so we needed software like Getright to be able to resume. You would also have to visit "sponsor" sites, usually porn, and get a password to open the files (like, what's the 3rd word in the 2nd paragraph on this page?). Then you would hope that everything extracted correctly and you could actually play the game.

Now people just download a torrent and everything is ready, there's no sense of adventure!

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...


Clapping Larry
Except some cable companies get real dickish by sending a cease and desist thing if they sniff any kind of torrent activity :(

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

loving windows version originally came with Musicmatch Jukebox


if u think itunes is bad then go try that out and see how bad it can really be


if u were cool u used ephpod instead

Gone are the days of using Musicmatch Jukebox to record in real time onto my minidiscs via my audigy livedrive's optical out. Thank the lord.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

loving windows version originally came with Musicmatch Jukebox


if u think itunes is bad then go try that out and see how bad it can really be


if u were cool u used ephpod instead

That's what it was - Musicmatch. Yeah I found ephpod quickly after dealing with that

I bought a copy of Real One player from Real Network's website in 2003 or so. Like they sent me the CD in the mail. Never used it but I still have it.

Are CDs a relic now? I have like 1000 store bought music albums on CD. I think the time is coming where no one buys a physical copy of a movie or album or game and while I see the benefit it's nice to know if my internet is out I can still listen to/watch/play things.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

a happy snowman posted:

Impossible Mission on the C64. gently caress I hated that decryption puzzle.

I bought it for the Sony Playstation 2 home computer system and now that I have a Manuel and actually know what the gently caress I'm supposed to do, unlike back in the Commodore 64 days, it's very good actually.

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Max Hammer posted:



This was my first step into RPG-like games, and I played it for so many hours, I could still find my way around if I had to. I also remember 1 or 2 major plot points where the game would ALWAYS freeze. One of them was some sort of earthquake going on, and after 10 minutes of watching the screen shake, I would give up and reboot only to try again. But I absolutely loved this game.

edit: Ultima VIII by the way

old post, but there was a workaround for those freezes, saving the game right when the screen shake started

then reloading the game right there would always fix it.

I believe the points were when meeting the Earth God, and then later the Air God.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

Keith Atherton posted:

Are CDs a relic now? I have like 1000 store bought music albums on CD. I think the time is coming where no one buys a physical copy of a movie or album or game and while I see the benefit it's nice to know if my internet is out I can still listen to/watch/play things.

I would say yes and no, depends on the context. Me and most of my friends have most of our music digitally because it's so convenient, even if a lot of that was originally on CD and then ripped. I'm pretty sure my home country has no dedicated record stores left unless you count second hand or department stores.

That said, I live in Japan and I can assure you the CD is alive and well here. That's because the Japanese music industry has actively shunned the internet as a means of distribution, not to mention competitions and other incentives to buy physical copies of singles/albums.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Keith Atherton posted:

Are CDs a relic now? I have like 1000 store bought music albums on CD. I think the time is coming where no one buys a physical copy of a movie or album or game and while I see the benefit it's nice to know if my internet is out I can still listen to/watch/play things.

I like to have a booklet which says some stuff about the CD and has some pictures and art, but I'm assuming I'm probably in the minority because I know people who throw that stuff and the jewel case away and just put the CD into one of those huge folders full of CD sleeves, and I'm sure some people throw away the CDs too after ripping them.

But yeah, I'm the relic here. I'm forced to use Windows 10 and getting angry because of all the poo poo that is using up network bandwidth and CPU in the background and reminiscing about the days when your PC only did one thing at a time.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Buttcoin purse posted:

I like to have a booklet which says some stuff about the CD and has some pictures and art, but I'm assuming I'm probably in the minority because I know people who throw that stuff and the jewel case away and just put the CD into one of those huge folders full of CD sleeves, and I'm sure some people throw away the CDs too after ripping them.

But yeah, I'm the relic here. I'm forced to use Windows 10 and getting angry because of all the poo poo that is using up network bandwidth and CPU in the background and reminiscing about the days when your PC only did one thing at a time.

I also have several hundred vinyl records because I'm old and back then you would listen to the album and look at the cover and liner notes and lyrics while listening. CDs weren't as cool for that but usually you got a printed insert to look at.

I still am running Windows XP at home. I am a computer relic.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Keith Atherton posted:

Are CDs a relic now? I have like 1000 store bought music albums on CD. I think the time is coming where no one buys a physical copy of a movie or album or game and while I see the benefit it's nice to know if my internet is out I can still listen to/watch/play things.
I'm pretty sure that vinyls with MP3 download codes packed in have been making a bit of a comeback as the "I want to buy a special physical thing that represents this music I love" thing. I mean, they're certainly not going to take over the music business again, but a non-trivial portion of the music section at the major media retail chain in Australia (JB Hi-Fi) seems to have been repurposed from CD to vinyl racks...

1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

That said, I live in Japan and I can assure you the CD is alive and well here. That's because the Japanese music industry has actively shunned the internet as a means of distribution, not to mention competitions and other incentives to buy physical copies of singles/albums.
Isn't Japanese copyright law a whole lot harsher than in the west, to the point of jail time for offenders? A lot of the modern digital-download music industry was built off the popularity of piracy networks like Napster, so I wouldn't be entirely shocked that had something to do with it too.

Man, Napster is one of those things that fits in this thread. Where every artist's name was misspelled to evade copyright filters after the Metallica thing, and every even remotely non-serious song was attributed to Weird Al Yankovic... good times.

Keith Atherton posted:

I still am running Windows XP at home. I am a computer relic.
Could be worse. You could one of those weird people who use pimped out Amigas for things other than playing old Amiga games.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

At least he would have enough money to buy those expansion cards for his sweet 4000T setup, so he can enjoy Alien Breed 3D 2 in fullscreen. Amiga nuts are passionate, but also completely nuts people.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

The Kins posted:

I'm pretty sure that vinyls with MP3 download codes packed in have been making a bit of a comeback as the "I want to buy a special physical thing that represents this music I love" thing. I mean, they're certainly not going to take over the music business again, but a non-trivial portion of the music section at the major media retail chain in Australia (JB Hi-Fi) seems to have been repurposed from CD to vinyl racks...

Yes, that's very true. I know a lot of people who love buying vinyl because it's just cool (I'm one of them). I know no-one who is like that with CDs. It's certainly never going to be as mainstream as it once was because most people just don't care enough, but vinyl is definitely more popular than it was 10-20 years ago.

quote:

Isn't Japanese copyright law a whole lot harsher than in the west, to the point of jail time for offenders? A lot of the modern digital-download music industry was built off the popularity of piracy networks like Napster, so I wouldn't be entirely shocked that had something to do with it too.

Honestly, I don't really know about the laws. That said, pirating is still a culturally unacceptable thing to do in Japan. Your neighbours probably would have no problem dobbing you in to the police if they knew you pirated, and the police would take it very seriously.

That's probably part of it, but you'd be surprised at how backwards Japan is with regards to a lot of modern technology. Faxes are still very common, and most business is still done in cash for example.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

laserghost posted:

At least he would have enough money to buy those expansion cards for his sweet 4000T setup, so he can enjoy Alien Breed 3D 2 in fullscreen. Amiga nuts are passionate, but also completely nuts people.
That reminds me: Here's a great little Youtube documentary someone made about the many attempts at replicating Doom on the Amiga hardware, which really wasn't made for real time 3D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6aJRGpz_A

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Original_Z posted:

You would also have to visit "sponsor" sites, usually porn, and get a password to open the files (like, what's the 3rd word in the 2nd paragraph on this page?).

I would just bruteforce the password with a zip cracker and an English dictionary. Just because I could

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Buttcoin purse posted:

lol I thought you said .fli for a second.

The first porn video I ever saw was a .fli file on a floppy disk. I'm glad it was low res and a few seconds long because man was that lady ugly.

This reminds me of one of the first porn videos I saw, also on a floppy! A friend brought it over, saying it was Leisure Suit Larry, but we put it in, and it was something called "More Mandy", and was a silent 30 second compilation of clips from the 70s or 80s. It was the first time I learned about the concept of a blowjob, and it just seemed so weird to me (I was probably 9-10).

Does anyone else know what I'm talking about, with the video? I'd love to see it again, for nostalgia's sake :allears:

Nonviolent J
Jul 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Soiled Meat

Max Hammer posted:

That realization just blew my mind right now. Holy poo poo! I did not know that's what they were. Thank you for that awesome piece of trivia knowledge.

For me, Zillion was by far the best game I played on that system. But in close 2nd and 3rd were Alex Kidd in High Tech World and Fantasy Zone. Oh, and Choplifter was pretty bad rear end too.

Are you serious? High tech world is insanely hard for a kid, too hard to be any fun. Had to watch a speedrun recently to realize there's an actual platforming game after the bullshit puzzle poo poo.

Scornful Sexbot
Sep 24, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

Wicker Man posted:

Except some cable companies get real dickish by sending a cease and desist thing if they sniff any kind of torrent activity :(

I pay $35 a year for VPN access that permits 4MB/s downloads and equivalent uploads. This would have broken the minds of Internet goers a scant ten years ago.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
CDs are interesting because they're still the easiest way to get lossless DRM-free music. Humans can't hear anywhere near CD's nyquist rate and quantization noise is so low that even in a studio setting it's irrelevant, so they're as high a quality as human's are capable of hearing. The downside is that the 'loudness' war resulted in so many lovely CDs; Ride The Lighting is a significantly quieter CD than Oops! I Did It Again.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Original_Z posted:

Warez was so much more involved back then. Games would have poo poo ripped out and split into like 10+ archives which would take forever to download. Downloading was unreliable back then as well so we needed software like Getright to be able to resume. You would also have to visit "sponsor" sites, usually porn, and get a password to open the files (like, what's the 3rd word in the 2nd paragraph on this page?). Then you would hope that everything extracted correctly and you could actually play the game.

Now people just download a torrent and everything is ready, there's no sense of adventure!

Eventually win rar was able to automatically go through all your zips and turn it into one file.

ColoradoCleric
Dec 26, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I divide our generations of children into groups on whether or not they used torrents or mirc for pirating

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



ColoradoCleric posted:

I divide our generations of children into groups on whether or not they used torrents or mirc for pirating

I divide our generations into people know it's called IRC vs those who think it's called mIRC.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

ColoradoCleric posted:

I divide our generations of children into groups on whether or not they used torrents or mirc for pirating

Same but compact cassettes or BBSes.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Pham Nuwen posted:

I divide our generations into people know it's called IRC vs those who think it's called mIRC.

Torrents or Napster/Kazaa/WinMX/eMule.

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut
zmodem and tie the phone line up all night

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Howard Beale posted:

zmodem and tie the phone line up all night

Oh god, playing Heretic with my friend all night, and wishing for another phone line or broadband so I could play during the day :allears:

E1M5 (the level that looks like a town) is still one of my favourites.

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer
I too used to play mostly during the night, but that is because back then, where I live, phone calls at night had fixed cost, no matter the duration. It was laughably cheap, too.

Though I never played Heretic multiplayer, I played whole lot of Heroes of might and Magic (hotseat is better) and Doom.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Oh god, playing Heretic with my friend all night, and wishing for another phone line or broadband so I could play during the day :allears:

E1M5 (the level that looks like a town) is still one of my favourites.

Q2 - The Edge was my jam. I was really good at Q2, but I took that level to another ... level. I would listen for pickups and could launch rockets at where a guy would be 10 seconds later.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

The Kins posted:

That reminds me: Here's a great little Youtube documentary someone made about the many attempts at replicating Doom on the Amiga hardware, which really wasn't made for real time 3D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6aJRGpz_A
As an old A500 owner, thanks for that link :)

I still have a closet full of boxed DVD/CD games but I can honestly count on 1 hand the number of times I've used my optical drive in the past year, probably 2 years which includes an OS install.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
Old piracy misadventure story, I managed to get all of Lexx off Kazaa/Morpheus (maybe season 4 wasn't out yet? Been awhile). Had to get someone else in another state to also do it, and strategically go after different episodes, and then we traded CDs. Most episodes had burned in German subtitles. I used to know "As you command, Stan" in German because of this.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Speaking of internet relics, I bought a second-hand calculator today and went in search of software for it:

http://casiomaniac69.tripod.com

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Jerry Cotton posted:

Speaking of internet relics, I bought a second-hand calculator today and went in search of software for it:

http://casiomaniac69.tripod.com

Oh man,I had one of those in High School. It seemed superior to the TI 86 or whatever was popular at the time, and I remember finding the multi color display useful on sine waves for some reason.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

Oh man,I had one of those in High School. It seemed superior to the TI 86 or whatever was popular at the time, and I remember finding the multi color display useful on sine waves for some reason.

I just bought it to average my blood pressure measurements twice a day. I guess I could actually write a program to store the values and... draw a completely pointless graph. My Omron only holds 30 values.

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Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
Some dude at my school wrote his own homebrew JRPG for the ti-83 where you had weapons like coke cans and glasses and I think the final boss was Bill Gates.

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