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CeallaSo posted:FFTA is only based on Ivalice; it's a false world created by the Gran Grimoire that mashes up elements from Mewt's present with the ancient past of the real Ivalice. In FFTA2, which takes place long enough after TA that Mewt is a teacher at the protagonist's school, Luso is actually transported back in time by the grimoire, and his adventure takes place on an island nation not too far across the sea from the continent Ivalice. It's probably because Vagrant Story and Tactics Advance were never supposed to be part of the same world of Ivalice as Tactics, but then XII came along and Square-Enix decided to tie all the games together which TA2 followed up on. So some things are bound to not quite make sense.
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It's been a while. How exactly did Vayne Solidor and Venat wrestle control of humanity's fate away from the Occuria in the first place?
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Level Slide posted:It's been a while. How exactly did Vayne Solidor and Venat wrestle control of humanity's fate away from the Occuria in the first place? By manipulating humans into destroying the Sun Cryst, which was how the Occuria kept humans in line. Lacking the power to give a single chosen human the power to conquer the entire continent, the Occuria could do nothing but sit in their tower and watch the world move on without them. EDIT: Or, but wait, Vayne didn't have anything to do with that, did he? Unless Reddas was secretly still working for him? It seemed like something that happened because Ashe decided it should, rather than through the machinations of Vayne. Unless Vayne's plan was to push her so far by conquering her country that she'd be forced to turn to the Occuria for help, and then he'd just hope she made the right choice.
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Feb 14, 2016 18:06
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ashley riot was a cool dude
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Feb 14, 2016 18:07
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I want his assless shorts.
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assless riot
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CeallaSo posted:By manipulating humans into destroying the Sun Cryst, which was how the Occuria kept humans in line. Lacking the power to give a single chosen human the power to conquer the entire continent, the Occuria could do nothing but sit in their tower and watch the world move on without them. I only knew Vayne and Venat worked together, but that's about it. And now I kind of remember it being Ashe's idea to climb the giant tower and destroy the crystal at the top.
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Feb 14, 2016 18:20
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I actually liked the law system in Tactics Advance.
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CeallaSo posted:By manipulating humans into destroying the Sun Cryst, which was how the Occuria kept humans in line. Lacking the power to give a single chosen human the power to conquer the entire continent, the Occuria could do nothing but sit in their tower and watch the world move on without them. I thought it just coincidentally ended up working out for Vayne. He and Cid's plan was to use manufacted nethicite, a human creation, to nullify the powers of Dynast King and the Occuria but Ashe also just decided on her own that she wouldn't help them so by the end game both sides are just trying to win this war and the Occuria no longer matter. Could definitely be wrong though. FFTA2>FFTA>>>>>>>FFT
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Feb 14, 2016 19:05
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Txn posted:I actually liked the law system in Tactics Advance. In defense of the indefensible.
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Level Slide posted:I only knew Vayne and Venat worked together, but that's about it. And now I kind of remember it being Ashe's idea to climb the giant tower and destroy the crystal at the top. Ashe originally meant to harness the crystal, but had a change of heart at the last moment and shattered it instead. I think Cid and Venat were gambling on that outcome, so they arranged for her to meet the Occuria in the first place and gain the means to reach the crystal. Basically everything that happened in FFXII was all according to the villains' plans. It only went topsy-turvy in the very last second when Vayne's subordinates turned on him, leaving him to go out in a blaze of glory instead of usurping Ashe and ruling the new age himself.
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Oxxidation posted:Ashe originally meant to harness the crystal, but had a change of heart at the last moment and shattered it instead. I think Cid and Venat were gambling on that outcome, so they arranged for her to meet the Occuria in the first place and gain the means to reach the crystal. It's basically a best possible outcome. The villains who did all the unspeakable crimes trying to set things up got nailed and the wise princess who ultimately did right by the people took over. And then eventually everything got destroyed by demon Jesus.
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Feb 14, 2016 19:21
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Is Mega64's avatar literally just David Bowie.
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Feb 14, 2016 19:25
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Gologle posted:Is Mega64's avatar literally just David Bowie. David Bowie by way of Amano. The original was posted in this thread the day he died and I snagged it.
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Feb 14, 2016 19:27
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bloodychill posted:In defense of the indefensible.
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Feb 14, 2016 19:27
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For the longest time I thought it was Bartz.
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Feb 14, 2016 19:28
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Onmi posted:Eventually (according to the Ultimania) concluding with the modern world, and Ivalice being reduced to the town of St. Ivalice. That doesn't make any sense, for at least the reason that Ivalice was the name of the world, the whole setting, or at least a very large chunk of it, and it became... a town? That's like saying the town of St. Earth is what the planet Earth became. It's dumb.
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Feb 14, 2016 19:29
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Undeniably great. If Dissidia is missing that outfit, I expect a global boycott. Nah man, what we need are playable viangaa.  
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Feb 14, 2016 19:56
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Well, the town is named after a saint and I don't think they talk about what the name of the country or land St. Ivalice is in. Maybe it's St. Ivalice, Ivalce State, Ivalice.
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I've been playing the FF9 port on m iPad and if anything, its even better than how I remembered it when I played it 15 years ago, and the port is just so loving good, but I'm curious about the quality of the other IOS ports. Are any of them worth picking up? Or are most of them (as I suspect) every bit as low quality and frustrating as some people have said?
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The only ports that are bad IIRC are the GBA/SNES games. I've heard good things about the FFT, World Ends, and Dragon Quest ports.
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Feb 14, 2016 20:12
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they should have named the town St Agora
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Feb 14, 2016 20:16
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Since it was all just a fantasy in the mind of an autistic boy, clearly they should've named it St. Elsewhere.
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Gorn Myson posted:I've been playing the FF9 port on m iPad and if anything, its even better than how I remembered it when I played it 15 years ago, and the port is just so loving good, but I'm curious about the quality of the other IOS ports. Are any of them worth picking up? Or are most of them (as I suspect) every bit as low quality and frustrating as some people have said? FFV and VI have garbage updated sprites based on FF:Dimensions (a fun, albeit not great game), FFIV has the updated 3d graphics that FF3 got. FF1 and 2 are the PSP (?) Sprites, and are fine. The playstation ones have improved graphics. FF1,2, 4, 5, 6, 7, Dimensions, Tactics, and Triple Triad are all worth your time.
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Help Im Alive posted:Feels like we should only be allowed to talk about Vincent today someday i too will put my self-insert character into a game and make him the most useless party member
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The White Dragon posted:someday i too will put my self-insert character into a game and make him the most useless party member didn't you already do that 
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Feb 14, 2016 20:42
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Who is Vincent a self-insert of because I don't think anyone at square is a vampire man with a gun who turns into the devil unless this is all some elaborate joke on Kitase
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Feb 14, 2016 20:58
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Baal posted:Who is Vincent a self-insert of because I don't think anyone at square is a vampire man with a gun who turns into the devil unless this is all some elaborate joke on Kitase Every Final Fantasy character is Tetsuya Nomura at different stages of sobriety.
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Feb 14, 2016 21:02
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That's stupid
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Baal posted:That's stupid Personally I liked Testuya Nomura best as Captain Bash fon Rotsenburg of Dalmasca
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Feb 14, 2016 21:04
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Another question about FFX-2. If I want to fight the Experiment at 5/5/5 and Angra Mainyu, how hosed I am? YRP levels are at 40~42, and I'm only missing one dressphere.
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Feb 14, 2016 21:09
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Baal posted:That's stupid Yeah, we already know that Nomura is Xehanort.
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Feb 14, 2016 21:10
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It's nice to hear FF9 iOS is good. Here's hoping the PC port (and maybe PS4 port?) are good too. And I'm pretty sure Nomura is Mickey in the gimp suit.
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Txn posted:Another question about FFX-2. I don't remember 5/5/5 being that tough, just watch out for life slicer since that will always kill someone, also Annihilator is a learnable move if you're collecting those. I can't help with Angra Mainyu since I could never do that battle without 2 dark knights using darkness and a dedicated healer. (I wouldn't recommend doing this, it's super boring.)
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Gologle posted:For the longest time I thought it was Bartz. When I did my FF5 LP I tried doing Amano drawings for the dialogue portraits like I did with my 4/6/9 LP's, but I had to change them to sprites because nobody could tell the difference between Bartz and Lenna. Baal posted:Who is Vincent a self-insert of because I don't think anyone at square is a vampire man with a gun who turns into the devil unless this is all some elaborate joke on Kitase Considering he could never seal the deal with Lucrecia in FF7/DoC he's probably a lot more relatable to the developers than you'd think.
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That whole business with Vincent and Lucretia in DoC was pretty groady - Lucretia becoming a digital ghost and her memories influencing the 19 year old, with the body of a 9 year old, whom Vincent, a 60 year old man, sees as a romantic replacement. 
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Feb 14, 2016 22:34
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why does nobody ever accuse Amano of sameface
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Pesky Splinter posted:That whole business with Vincent and Lucretia in DoC was pretty groady - Lucretia becoming a digital ghost and her memories influencing the 19 year old, with the body of a 9 year old, whom Vincent, a 60 year old man, sees as a romantic replacement. Wait he does? Like, Dirge of Cerberus is a straight up Bad Game, but I never thought Vincent wanted to play Barry White music with Shelkie or whatever the gently caress her name was. I got the impression that he instinctively thought of her as "someone I definitely must protect" as a sort of instinct about her having Lucrecia's whatever. IIRC in the end he just sulks in the cave forever.
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yeah it seemed more like he thought shelke was like, a daughter of lucretia than 'oh it's lucretia again, i can marry her this time' but i only played that game once
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