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Vagabundo posted:Yeah, the kids living in poverty loving pisses me off, when I'm one of the people having to make the most of what I can with these children, and trying to do what I can to drag them off the shitheap. Bad choices? Get a job? Go gently caress yourself, you smug loving oval office piece of poo poo. You loving tell me about bad decision making when I've got kids living in households where the parents have to make the choice between getting them stationery or a proper uniform, and the focus has to go on feeding them something that'll fill them up rather than nutrition because they can't afford that poo poo. I loving dare you. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/education/news/article.cfm?c_id=35&objectid=11588063
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quote:Family First have released an analysis of the 2007 anti-smacking law. It proves beyond doubt that the law has been ineffective in reducing child abuse. To the contrary, abuse has skyrocketed. gently caress you!!!
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Feb 11, 2016 10:06
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emminou posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cpgO9pg-48 Gareth Hughes grew a Riker Beard and by gum he's going to use it!
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Feb 11, 2016 10:25
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Exclamation Marx posted:gently caress you!!! So...making a thing illegal increased the number reports of that thing happening tremendously? What? Wouldn't you expect the numbers to go up because people are getting prosecuted and data is getting gathered as a result? Is 'feral parents' code for 'I'm a racist oval office'?
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Feb 11, 2016 10:30
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I can not believe these motherfuckers are still pretending the law bans smacking
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Feb 11, 2016 10:35
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Feb 11, 2016 10:38
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Slavvy posted:So...making a thing illegal increased the number reports of that thing happening tremendously? What? Wouldn't you expect the numbers to go up because people are getting prosecuted and data is getting gathered as a result? Yeah, closing a legal loophole tends to result in more things that would normally have passed through that loophole being caught. I love the "71 child abuse deaths" in nine fuckin' years, just tucked in there after all the statistics. But it's not a 71% increase! It's not even an increase! It's New Zealand's loving atrocious rate of child slaughter holding pretty much steady. Is he saying that these kids wouldn't have been killed if the law change hadn't passed? Is he loving saying that making child abuse illegal caused people to just go off the deep end and murder children? This guy needs to do a Hitchens and subject himself to the abuse he's defending. You know, being thrashed with a rake until you're bleeding, being hit in the face with a tire iron until you lose a tooth. See how long he loving lasts before he decides that yeah, that poo poo should be illegal.
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Feb 11, 2016 11:08
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Stop swallowing in the middle of your sentences, jesus christ. Even I could deliver a speech better than that. Content was awesome but god drat.
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Feb 11, 2016 11:28
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yeah it's really disconcerting after watching a lot of US politics to come back to NZ politics, where every speech sounds like it was given by a nervous fourth-former in english class
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Feb 11, 2016 12:02
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We must dispense with this fiction that John Key is a good prime minister
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Feb 11, 2016 12:04
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We MUST dispense with the fiction that John Key is a good prime minister
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Feb 11, 2016 12:09
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emminou posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cpgO9pg-48 oh my god keep going gareth i'm almost there NZAmoeba posted:Gareth Hughes grew a Riker Beard and by gum he's going to use it!
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Feb 11, 2016 13:19
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Feb 11, 2016 13:37
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Exclamation Marx posted:We must dispense with this fiction that John Key is a good prime minister Totally, and I think we must dispense with this fiction that a prime minister "leads" the country, rather than merely leading the party he is the minister of. We don't need a leader, and I assert that we /can't/ be led since the country is too diverse. I think we need a head of state , and the prime minister could (and pragmatically does) fulfill that role, if only so we can remove that head from the body when needed....
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Exclamation Marx posted:We must dispense
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Feb 12, 2016 05:58
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Please do not dispense John Key. We have more than enough John Key.
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Feb 12, 2016 06:01
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Somfin posted:This guy needs to do a Hitchens and subject himself to the abuse he's defending. You know, being thrashed with a rake until you're bleeding, being hit in the face with a tire iron until you lose a tooth. See how long he loving lasts before he decides that yeah, that poo poo should be illegal. Wait what Did your parents decide Dr Spock was for wusses and get their child-rearing advice from Mad Max
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Feb 12, 2016 09:30
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fong posted:Bring back Helen Or don't, she's actually doing a lot of good internationally. But w/e
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Crane Fist posted:Wait what Naw, just using some examples of the sort of thing that fuckwit parents actually got away with because of the smacking provision (tire iron one was made up, but the rake one was definitely real). Anyone who claims that poo poo should be legal should be given the maximum extent of what the law's existence allowed. Because they think it should be legal.
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fong posted:Bring back Helen She's got a non-zero chance of being the next secretary-general of the UN so i'm more than happy her staying where she is.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:34
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Gotta add my voice to this and say that Helen's helping far more than 4.something million in her current position.
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Somfin posted:Naw, just using some examples of the sort of thing that fuckwit parents actually got away with because of the smacking provision (tire iron one was made up, but the rake one was definitely real). That was the crazy thing - IIRC if you could convince a judge that you thought a particular assault was reasonable then that was enough to not be convicted because of the way the law was written. Part of the "reasonable" test could be that you were raised that way, and that allowed some fairly savage assaults like being hit with a polyurethane pipe to go unpunished. So, the "extent of the law" was different depending on who you were, because of that word "reasonable". Its extent depended on what the parent though was reasonable, rather than what the cops or judges or society at large thinks is reasonable. Compare that to the censorship laws, where the OLFC has to decide if a particular item of media would be viewed by society as reasonable (well, not offensive) or not. Oddly enough, 3d objects are not under the OLFC's control - a teeshirt with a dick on it might be considered offensive, but a statue of a dick cannot be considered offensive by the OLFC. klen dool fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 13, 2016 00:41
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mirthdefect posted:What about an embossed poster with dicks all over it? I think electoral campaigns are considered free speech
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cptn_dr posted:I think electoral campaigns are considered free speech Holy poo poo
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mirthdefect posted:What about an embossed poster with dicks all over it? I actually don't know! I thought perhaps a pressed DVD full of something objectionable wouldn't fall under the OLFC purview because its a 3d object - lands and pits. But I like your thought experiment better. I am not a lawyer btw.
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cptn_dr posted:I think electoral campaigns are considered free speech It took me hours to fully appreciate this.
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Feb 13, 2016 11:09
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504 posted:Getting pretty sick of all these quakes just quietly. Maybe don't live on the most active edge of the most active tectonic plate in the world? 
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Feb 14, 2016 02:07
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Yeah that was a hide-under-the-desk one from here in Shirley.
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504 posted:Getting pretty sick of all these quakes just quietly. Rough. Currently living on the other side of the pacific plate, so it you guys could just take all the bad stuff, That'd be greeeeeat.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/01/05/how-inequality-made-these-western-countries-poorer/quote:New Zealand halved its top tax rate, cut benefits by up to a quarter of their value, and dramatically reduced the bargaining power – and therefore the share of national income – of ordinary workers. Thousands of people lost their jobs as manufacturing work went overseas, and there was no significant response with increased trade training or skills programs, a policy failure that is ongoing," Rashbrooke writes in the op-ed. He also blames New Zealand for a lack of affordable homes which led to higher rents and unpaid mortgages.
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Infotainment! posted:Incoming Herald advertorial about how the article is wrong because new zealand punches above its weight with a can do attitude, and the property market is perfectly fine according to the Realtors who paid for this piece. Sandwiched between artices about good bloke Richie and Is Lorde Taken?
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