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Guavanaut posted:Who's ordering all these political cakes anyway? Well, arguably an egg and bacon sandwich was responsible for the last election result so.... Political patisserie is a dangerous thing.
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Jose posted:for such an ardent supporter of anti-discrimination its a shame you made a racist post in one of these threads I, too, do not believe you can suggest someone is not acting in the best interests of their own racial group without, yourself, being racist.
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Feb 14, 2016 21:37
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TinTower posted:It's illegal to discriminate on the basis of (non-violent) political opinion in Northern Ireland. Well yeah it is rock solid its an accurate interpretation of the law, are you assuming that people who disagree with the decision are doing so because they think the judge interpreted the law wrong because that's not the case, its because they find the idea of discrimination based on political opinion being illegal a worrying thing.
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Feb 14, 2016 21:40
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Mister Adequate posted:I, too, do not believe you can suggest someone is not acting in the best interests of their own racial group without, yourself, being racist. Didn't she call someone a coconut? Is it ok for white lib dems to go around calling non-white people coconuts? And then give hilarious politician style non-apologies?
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Feb 14, 2016 21:43
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thespaceinvader posted:This is one of the reasons that the facts of the Junior Doctors Contract issue get so little traction. Because it take 3 seconds to say SEVEN DAY NHS and ten minutes to explain why it's dumb. It take 30 seconds to say 'MORE LIKELY TO DIE ON WEEKENDS' and ten minutes to explain that no, it doesn't, the studies have been excessively misrepresented and even if it does, it's not necessarily evidence of causative effects . It's why I don't have a problem with people using LBJ style "call him a pigfucker, make that son of a bitch deny it" tactics against the Tories since they're clearly using it themselves. Hell their dead cat political bullshit is just an extreme of that.
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Feb 14, 2016 21:58
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Feb 14, 2016 22:05
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David Cameron has beaten his dead son so regularly one would think it still had a heartbeat.
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Feb 14, 2016 22:07
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marktheando posted:Didn't she call someone a coconut? Is it ok for white lib dems to go around calling non-white people coconuts? And then give hilarious politician style non-apologies? Whilst there are problems with saying someone is "acting white" or whatever, if someone is acting in a manner consistent with enforcing/supporting white privilege, it's probably okay to call them out on it, even if you yourself are white? Like it might not be the classiest way of doing so and, yes, it's probably better left for the community in question to make the criticism anyway, people ITT act like she is Nick Griffin IRL, not someone who made a good point in a possibly unwise way.
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Feb 14, 2016 22:47
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Are straight people not allowed to call Milo Yiannopolous a massive self-hating homophobic dickwad?
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Feb 14, 2016 22:50
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Coohoolin posted:Are straight people not allowed to call Milo Yiannopolous a massive self-hating homophobic dickwad? So long as you manage to do it without calling him erm.. I dunno if there's an equivalent term for sexuality but imagine if you did so by calling him a fag on the outside or something. Your complaint may be legitimate but there is appropriate and inappropriate language to use when making one.
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Feb 14, 2016 22:56
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Mister Adequate posted:Whilst there are problems with saying someone is "acting white" or whatever, if someone is acting in a manner consistent with enforcing/supporting white privilege, it's probably okay to call them out on it, even if you yourself are white? Like it might not be the classiest way of doing so and, yes, it's probably better left for the community in question to make the criticism anyway, people ITT act like she is Nick Griffin IRL, not someone who made a good point in a possibly unwise way. you use far too many commas
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Feb 14, 2016 22:59
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Coohoolin posted:Are straight people not allowed to call Milo Yiannopolous a massive self-hating homophobic dickwad? OwlFancier posted:So long as you manage to do it without calling him erm.. I dunno if there's an equivalent term for sexuality but imagine if you did so by calling him a fag on the outside or something.  It could be taken as unnecessarily provocative and tacky and tactless, although in the above case surprisingly tasty looking. Also imagine that whatever that is has a name and it comes with racial connotations too.
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Feb 14, 2016 23:09
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Holy loving poo poo are you telling me you can actually get swiss roll in a scotch egg?
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Feb 14, 2016 23:14
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idk, that was a photoshop. I hope they exist.
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Aww, gently caress, I was really hoping you'd just googled it and it came up.
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Guavanaut posted:idk, that was a photoshop. I hope they exist. why? they sound disgusting
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Feb 14, 2016 23:16
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Coohoolin posted:Are straight people not allowed to call Milo Yiannopolous a massive self-hating homophobic dickwad? You can but it's rude.
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Feb 14, 2016 23:19
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Coohoolin posted:Are straight people not allowed to call Milo Yiannopolous a massive self-hating homophobic dickwad? Eh, it's more analogous to calling him a 'False Fag Operation'
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Feb 14, 2016 23:19
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Tesseraction posted:Eh, it's more analogous to calling him a 'False Fag Operation' 
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Feb 14, 2016 23:21
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Tesseraction posted:It's why I don't have a problem with people using LBJ style "call him a pigfucker, make that son of a bitch deny it" tactics against the Tories since they're clearly using it themselves. Hell their dead cat political bullshit is just an extreme of that. I don't have much of a problem with some people doing it, as long as there are others actually trying to bring back the idea that politics should be based on rational assessment of evidence rather than tummyfeels and slogans.
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Feb 14, 2016 23:26
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Tesseraction posted:Eh, it's more analogous to calling him a 'False Fag Operation'  thespaceinvader posted:I don't have much of a problem with some people doing it, as long as there are others actually trying to bring back the idea that politics should be based on rational assessment of evidence rather than tummyfeels and slogans.
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Jose posted:you use far too many commas Try telling that to Constant Content
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Tesseraction posted:Eh, it's more analogous to calling him a 'False Fag Operation'
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Coohoolin posted:Are straight people not allowed to call Milo Yiannopolous a massive self-hating homophobic dickwad? You can, because there's a big difference between that and saying he is 'straight on the inside'. One is insulting his views, the other is insulting his identity.
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That coconut post was absolutely outrageous. Like, do a double take, rub your eyes, cannot believe what you are actually seeing outrageous. But it was a mistake that has hopefully been learned from, perhaps it can act as a parable against the tendency to jump on somebody's previous poorly chosen words and act as though it invalidates everything else they ever say.
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Hoops posted:That coconut post was absolutely outrageous. Like, do a double take, rub your eyes, cannot believe what you are actually seeing outrageous. But it was a mistake that has hopefully been learned from, perhaps it can act as a parable against the tendency to jump on somebody's previous poorly chosen words and act as though it invalidates everything else they ever say. 
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jabby posted:You can, because there's a big difference between that and saying he is 'straight on the inside'. One is insulting his views, the other is insulting his identity. I agree about the identity, but I'd have thought the "self hating" thing might have fallen under that. Hoops posted:That coconut post was absolutely outrageous. Like, do a double take, rub your eyes, cannot believe what you are actually seeing outrageous. But it was a mistake that has hopefully been learned from, perhaps it can act as a parable against the tendency to jump on somebody's previous poorly chosen words and act as though it invalidates everything else they ever say. yeah it was hosed up op Tesseraction posted:Eh, it's more analogous to calling him a 'False Fag Operation' holy poo poo Guavanaut posted:The equivalent of what happened in thread would be like criticizing a Coohoolin post by posting this with no further explanation: motherFUCKER that looks good. what's funny though is that I never ever saw or ate a Swiss roll while living in Switzerland, it's not really a Swiss thing.
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Hoops posted:That coconut post was absolutely outrageous. Like, do a double take, rub your eyes, cannot believe what you are actually seeing outrageous. But it was a mistake that has hopefully been learned from, perhaps it can act as a parable against the tendency to jump on somebody's previous poorly chosen words and act as though it invalidates everything else they ever say. i don't really care but said poster was getting outraged and i felt like bringing it up
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Guavanaut posted:
Nor am I  I've been trying, but I'm struggling to find time to write about this stuff, especially given how difficult it seems to be to actually get any headway. I've mostly been sticking to angry tweeting. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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Coohoolin posted:
gently caress you, now they're called Freedom Rolls
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baka kaba posted:gently caress you, now they're called Freedom Rolls Considering it's based on Switzerland shouldn't we call them Nazi Rolls?
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Don't be so loving insensitive. Nazi Collaborator Rolls.
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Jesus Christ thread some of you really need to stop and look at yourselves I mean sometimes you go too far with your absurd justifications of your ridiculous beliefs, I mean honestly there is no way the Swiss roll scotch egg would be nice I mean the flavours just would not work at all nor would the textures, you people make me sick.
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Tesseraction posted:Considering it's based on Switzerland shouldn't we call them Nazi Rolls? They're actually Austrian so go right ahead. Nazi Rolls.
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Feb 15, 2016 00:05
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Cool and fun jokes slandering an entire nation for the sins of some of their grandparents.
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Feb 15, 2016 00:06
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The only notable achievements of the Austrian nation are to have convinced the world that Hitler was German and that Beethoven was Viennese.
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big scary monsters posted:Cool and fun jokes slandering an entire nation for the sins of some of their grandparents. Germany is cool, Switzerland is still a shithole to this day.
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I dunno, Austria achieved Arnold Schwarzenegger not being allowed to voice the German version of the Terminator because he would sound like a farmer, which has led me to never not hear his lines in a broad Devonshire accent when I watch the film. SO there's that.
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thespaceinvader posted:I dunno, Austria achieved Arnold Schwarzenegger not being allowed to voice the German version of the Terminator because he would sound like a farmer, which has led me to never not hear his lines in a broad Devonshire accent when I watch the film. SO there's that. So Arnie's the Austrian version of non-James Earl Jones Darth Vader? That's hilarious.
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