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Main Paineframe posted:Remember the government shutdowns? They'll absolutely try - though rather than admitting it's because they don't like the president, they'll spin some bullshit about how it's unprecedented for a president in to appoint a justice in an election year and there's no way an outgoing president's nomination could be considered legitimate. In fact, the candidates already pushed that argument during last night's debate, even though it's not true. For example, Kennedy was confirmed in Feb 1988. It doesn't exactly take much to spin it into a true statement, it's a fairly rare occurence. I think the last time a vacancy opened up in the court during a presidential election year was 60 years ago. Kennedy was nominated in late '87 and confirmed in '88.
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Good loving riddance. I hope Obama can nominate a gay black judge to the bench
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Bedshaped posted:Did he die from being a fatty? Do they perform an autopsy? In a 5-4 decision the supreme coroners ruled him dead of natural causes.
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Main Paineframe posted:Remember the government shutdowns? They'll absolutely try - though rather than admitting it's because they don't like the president, they'll spin some bullshit about how it's unprecedented for a president in to appoint a justice in an election year and there's no way an outgoing president's nomination could be considered legitimate. In fact, the candidates already pushed that argument during last night's debate, even though it's not true. For example, Kennedy was confirmed in Feb 1988. If one were to make a statement that, while true, is deliberately misleading (as slimy politicians do), it is true that Reagan didn't nominate Kennedy during an election year, but late the year before. Which is what Cruz was obfuscating, and why the moderator called him out and the crowd booed at the moderator for doing so. If he'd said nominated instead he probably wouldn't have been called out. Broken Machine fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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HootTheOwl posted:In a 5-4 decision the supreme coroners ruled him dead of natural causes. Justice Thomas dissents.
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Monohydrate posted:Good loving riddance. I hope Obama can nominate a gay black judge to the bench We already have one of those. (It's Roberts)
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:03 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Sen. Mitch McConnell in 2005 defending the President's right to nominate Supreme Court justices: How long until this is quoted back in him on the floor of the Senate?
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Deadpool was really good btw
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Evil Fluffy posted:How long until this is quoted back in him on the floor of the Senate? Thursday
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:57 |
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I don't think the senate Republicans will be able to stall out for that long. The pressure to "do their jobs" and least go through the motions with Obama's nominee will be high. I think the plan will be to stall for a while, then drag out the hearings, and then reject the candidate, probably with a filibuster occurring in there somewhere (I'm guessing Cruz). How reasonable they appear during this whole process will depend on who Obama nominates. Alternatively they might strike a deal with him, appointing his nominee in exchange for some concession.
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HappyHippo posted:I don't think the senate Republicans will be able to stall out for that long. The pressure to "do their jobs" and least go through the motions with Obama's nominee will be high. I think the plan will be to stall for a while, then drag out the hearings, and then reject the candidate, probably with a filibuster occurring in there somewhere (I'm guessing Cruz). How reasonable they appear during this whole process will depend on who Obama nominates. Alternatively they might strike a deal with him, appointing his nominee in exchange for some concession. oh you sweet summer child
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HappyHippo posted:I don't think the senate Republicans will be able to stall out for that long. The pressure to "do their jobs" and least go through the motions with Obama's nominee will be high. I think the plan will be to stall for a while, then drag out the hearings, and then reject the candidate, probably with a filibuster occurring in there somewhere (I'm guessing Cruz). How reasonable they appear during this whole process will depend on who Obama nominates. Alternatively they might strike a deal with him, appointing his nominee in exchange for some concession. have you been in a coma for the past 10 years?
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I'm sure there will be some tea party leaning congressmen who will refuse to vote for ANYTHING Obama wants to do until a full investigation is called into the circumstances surrounding Scalia's death.
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Al! posted:I'm sure there will be some tea party leaning congressmen who will refuse to vote for ANYTHING Obama wants to do until a full investigation is called into the circumstances surrounding Scalia's death.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 00:33 |
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Josh Lyman posted:They skipped the autopsy. He was just given a burial at sea in the Indian Ocean.
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Al! posted:I'm sure there will be some tea party leaning congressmen who will refuse to vote for ANYTHING Obama wants to do until a full investigation is called into the circumstances surrounding Scalia's death. And this differs from all tea party congressmen before Scalia died because...
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Mr Jaunts posted:In case anyone was wondering, Scalia died of a heart attack. Well now we know it was murder: someone had to have put that thing in his chest.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 02:48 |
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I'm afraid the playwright has a point here https://twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/698893139071864832
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Munkeymon posted:I'm afraid the playwright has a point here Another Bush v. Gore situation with the Supreme Court deadlocked at 4-4 would be the end of America.
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Munkeymon posted:I'm afraid the playwright has a point here drat, didn't even think of that. I'm sure you'll hear that brought up plenty.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 03:56 |
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Sooo why is Drudge going full red headlines about Scalia being found with a pillow over his head? Because Drudge is attempting to launch a conspiracy theory using a poorly written article.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 03:58 |
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Here's a cool chart electoral-vote put up: Also they had a good summary of the issue today as well so electoral-vote.com posted:The data can be parsed in many different ways, but here are a few salient observations:
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 04:07 |
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It's 2016 can't we do this all with computers now? The 9th judge is usually the one that deadlocks it right? Just have an acting A.I.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 04:16 |
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This nomination is going to be the hill that Cruz or Rubio choose to die on so that'll be pretty great.
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Josh Lyman posted:Actually, they were planning to nominate a super WASP and ended up nominating No that was the first appointment episode, there was another one way later in the 5th season or something.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:09 |
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Is it true that judge scalia once argued for the constitutionality of putting an innocent man to death?
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:12 |
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Hollismason posted:This nomination is going to be the hill that Cruz or Rubio choose to die on so that'll be pretty great. name one hill that Cruz hasn't eagerly jumped up to die on
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:12 |
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White Genocide posted:Is it true that judge scalia once argued for the constitutionality of putting an innocent man to death? Yes, under the reasoning "he got a fair trial so who gives a gently caress about his innocence"
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:17 |
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Munkeymon posted:Well now we know it was murder: someone had to have put that thing in his chest. Am ilak AM ILAK!
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:30 |
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all I want for Christmas
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:45 |
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White Genocide posted:Is it true that judge scalia once argued for the constitutionality of putting an innocent man to death? He more or less opined in a dissent against a stay of execution that the SCOTUS has never ruled that Constitution forbids or condones the execution of the innocence, and that it's something they've purposefully never ruled on. He also states that by prior jurisprudence, they don't generally consider actual innocence to be in their Constitutional jurisdiction for rulings. It's hosed up, but he was technically and legally accurate.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 05:45 |
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Bizarre mental image of the day.quote:...Later, I learned that Scalia and Kagan were friends, though I suspect she would have been as surprised as I was at the brazenness of Scalia's suggestion. http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/14/opinions/david-axelrod-surprise-request-from-justice-scalia/index.html
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White Genocide posted:Is it true that judge scalia once argued for the constitutionality of putting an innocent man to death? He put scare quotes around 'innocent' in his opinion, so I'm not sure if it's this or he just didn't buy the dude was actually innocent. He was a monster either way.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 06:27 |
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https://twitter.com/kwissoker/status/698648756376494081
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 06:33 |
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So, is Scalia still dead?
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Sinners Sandwich posted:It's 2016 can't we do this all with computers now? The 9th judge is usually the one that deadlocks it right? Just have an acting A.I. No, no, we don't want Associate Justice Rubio.
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Quorum posted:No, no, we don't want Associate Justice Rubio. Sinners Sandwich did say AI.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Sinners Sandwich did say AI. Associate Iustice. Worked for the Romans, just how Scalia would have liked it.
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FAUXTON posted:Associate Iustice. I meant to contest Rubio's intelligence. I failed, and now must perform seppukku.
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Nckdictator posted:Bizarre mental image of the day. From the pics thread: I wonder if Kagan shot, dressed and ate quail
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