Which non-Power of the Daleks story would you like to see an episode found from? This poll is closed. |
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Marco Polo | 36 | 20.69% | |
The Myth Makers | 10 | 5.75% | |
The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve | 45 | 25.86% | |
The Savages | 2 | 1.15% | |
The Smugglers | 2 | 1.15% | |
The Highlanders | 45 | 25.86% | |
The Macra Terror | 21 | 12.07% | |
Fury from the Deep | 13 | 7.47% | |
Total: | 174 votes |
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They said during the commentary that there was a shortage of Oriental actors in England in the 70's and they had to make due.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 03:51 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 10:49 |
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CobiWann posted:They said during the commentary that there was a shortage of Oriental actors in England in the 70's and they had to make due. I guess that could be a problem. I was actually expecting at the end for it to be revealed as a disguise.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 04:01 |
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CobiWann posted:They said during the commentary that there was a shortage of Oriental actors in England in the 70's and they had to make due. I'm gonna call bullshit on that. It absolutely sounds like retroactive justification, especially seeing as there had been Asian actors on the show in the past. And even if, unlikely as it sounds, there were literally no Asian actors available in the UK at the time, well, then maybe that's a sign that you shouldn't be putting on this story in the first place. It's a real shame, because Chang is actually a really good character and having him played by an actor who wouldn't have to put on a horrible costume would have elevated a great story even higher. Instead it really drags it down.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 04:21 |
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twistedmentat posted:I guess that could be a problem. I was actually expecting at the end for it to be revealed as a disguise. On a completely unrelated topic, there is precisely one thing about Time-Flight that is absolutely awesome.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 06:19 |
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ThaGhettoJew posted:On a completely unrelated topic, there is precisely one thing about Time-Flight that is absolutely awesome. I can think of at least three things. I just want to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 14:01 |
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Rochallor posted:I'm gonna call bullshit on that. It absolutely sounds like retroactive justification, especially seeing as there had been Asian actors on the show in the past. And even if, unlikely as it sounds, there were literally no Asian actors available in the UK at the time, well, then maybe that's a sign that you shouldn't be putting on this story in the first place. This was a BBC show that ran for 20 years in Britain. It was cancelled 2 years after Talons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 14:48 |
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CobiWann posted:They said during the commentary that there was a shortage of Oriental actors in England in the 70's and they had to make due. This is a shabby and mendacious lie. There were actors they could have cast (as the cast of The Chinese Detective shows) and they chose not to because yellowface was still culturally acceptable at the time, in a world where the Black and White Minstrel Show was still a major part of ITV's schedule.
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 14:51 |
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Davros1 posted:This was a BBC show that ran for 20 years in Britain. It was cancelled 2 years after Talons: Oh my God
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 15:07 |
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Trin Tragula posted:This is a shabby and mendacious lie. There were actors they could have cast (as the cast of The Chinese Detective shows) and they chose not to because yellowface was still culturally acceptable at the time, in a world where the Black and White Minstrel Show was still a major part of ITV's schedule. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVDOrlugfBI That's better. (Also it ran on the Beeb not ITV, don't blame it on the commercial station)
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# ? Feb 10, 2016 15:17 |
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Short Synopsis: The Doctor warms to the Wirrn. Do you want to know more? Long Synopsis: The Doctor and Lucie materialize in the middle of a giant space battle between a human spacefleet and a swarm of Wirrn. Forced onto a nearby planet while trying to reach the TARDIS, they need to figure out a way to escape the thousands of Wirrn congregating on their position, and the Doctor's solution is extremely distasteful. What's Good:
What's Not:
Final Thoughts: Wirrn Dawn makes an admirable effort to take a Classic Who "monster" and fill in the backstory somewhat and give them more character. For me it is a misstep though, leading to the Doctor acting in a very un-Doctor-like fashion and taking a stance that is supposed to come across as slightly alien but pragmatic but doesn't quite hit home. Mark Gatiss got it right with the 9th Doctor in The Unquiet Dead when the Doctor didn't see an issue with using corpses as vessels for alien energy life-forms, but Nicholas Briggs doesn't really pull it off here. That said, it makes use of the broad brushstrokes of that television story to create a solid, believable setting for the story to take place in, and it does very good things with Lucie Miller as a protagonist. Like some other televised Doctor Who stories like The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People the idea may have been to present a situation that could lead to interesting debate on a particular moral issue. Those stories were excellent even beyond the moral conundrum they presented though. Unfortunately for me, I felt this was more like Kill the Moon and The Zygon Invasion where any interesting debate that might arise couldn't change the fact that the story that presented them wasn't very good.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 12:45 |
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Jerusalem posted:Final Thoughts: Darn. I was looking forward to this one because I so enjoyed The Ark in Space, but it sounds like it suffers from one of my biggest literary criticisms - if you're going to tell a story about hard choices and moral quandaries, the story surrounding those choices has to be solid to cracking good to carry the weight.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 14:38 |
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It's very solid in parts, it's just that things basically fall apart when comes time to resolve the conundrum it has set up and what it does feels so out-of-place for Doctor Who, and doesn't take advantage of the set-up of "The Doctor is NOT a human and doesn't automatically share our sense of right or wrong" in ways that other stories have. Anyways, I wish they'd hurry up and release the Season 9 complete box-set
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:31 |
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Jerusalem posted:
Haha. I don't think I heard that part of it, somehow. The writing for Lucie can be a little awkward at times (mostly whenever they want to do a large, season arc thing that feels a bit at odds with her character), but Sheridan Smith does a great job, with both the good material and the not-so-good material. It was also nice that they got Daniel Anthony a role, although, if I'm being honest, I don't think it was a very good one.
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 20:00 |
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I should have mentioned this earlier, but the end of Hand of Fear is kind of amazing. Oh Eldrad, you're so loving evil and we hate you so much we suicided our entire race so you could not return, take over and conquer the galaxy. What a bleakly awesome ending.
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# ? Feb 13, 2016 08:17 |
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twistedmentat posted:I should have mentioned this earlier, but the end of Hand of Fear is kind of amazing. On one hand, that's a great ending to the main story. On the other hand, the complete tonal shift from the first three episodes is really jarring. Three awesome episodes in a working nuclear facility and one that spends fifteen minutes crawling through the caves of ice before Sarah Jane leaves.
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# ? Feb 13, 2016 14:44 |
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I just read Jon Pertwee's wikipedia page to see if he had any judo training (a question prompted by the weird black space fight in The Three Doctors). I am delighted to learn that he's part of the Ian Flemming / Roald Dahl crazy badass WWII super spy crew.
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# ? Feb 13, 2016 16:59 |
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CommonShore posted:I just read Jon Pertwee's wikipedia page to see if he had any judo training (a question prompted by the weird black space fight in The Three Doctors). I am delighted to learn that he's part of the Ian Flemming / Roald Dahl crazy badass WWII super spy crew. Barry Letts' autobiography has some excellent anecdotes about how much of a bare faced chancer Pertwee was too, if you like that sort of thing.
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# ? Feb 13, 2016 17:45 |
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I do kinda like that sort of thing. I should track all of these things down.
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# ? Feb 13, 2016 19:04 |
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CobiWann posted:On one hand, that's a great ending to the main story. Yep, that was pretty jarring. Though the story still held up. I like how the music during the Doctor's investiture into the Presidents office sounds like its from a Final Fantasy game. Oh no some sheets of mylar have invaded! We must give up! twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Feb 14, 2016 |
# ? Feb 14, 2016 04:19 |
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Whole slew of Big Finish news that I spotted this morning. 1) War Doctor Box 2 coming next Monday, the 22nd. 2) Sheridan Smith returns as Lucie Miller for an upcoming Short Trips release. 3) Indira Varma returns as Suzie Costello for an upcoming Torchwood release.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 12:43 |
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CommonShore posted:I just read Jon Pertwee's wikipedia page to see if he had any judo training (a question prompted by the weird black space fight in The Three Doctors). I am delighted to learn that he's part of the Ian Flemming / Roald Dahl crazy badass WWII super spy crew. From a DWM a couple years back: apparently always trying to make a little extra money, Pertwee would steal Winston Churchill's cigar butts and sell them as mementos. Davros1 fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Feb 14, 2016 |
# ? Feb 14, 2016 15:39 |
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jivjov posted:Whole slew of Big Finish news that I spotted this morning. While I'm happy for more releases, I haven't had the chance to listen to anything in the main range since freakin' August! I've had The Bride of Peladon on my phone since the summer...
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 15:56 |
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CobiWann posted:While I'm happy for more releases, I haven't had the chance to listen to anything in the main range since freakin' August! I've had The Bride of Peladon on my phone since the summer... As ridiculous as it sounds, I'm annoyed by the patches I have in the 101-150 range now and keep hoping they do a special so I can fill those in and listen to them in order. Very excited for more War Doctor though, and it has given me a chance to catch up on the 8th Doctor Adventures so I can move on to Dark Eyes and Doom Coalition, not to mention I've got the 5th Doctor/Tegan/Nyssa/Adric boxset, the 4th Doctor Adventures, as well as The Last Adventure[ with 6 still to listen to.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 22:01 |
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Rochallor posted:I'm gonna call bullshit on that. It absolutely sounds like retroactive justification, especially seeing as there had been Asian actors on the show in the past. And even if, unlikely as it sounds, there were literally no Asian actors available in the UK at the time, well, then maybe that's a sign that you shouldn't be putting on this story in the first place. *Except the ubiquitous Burt Kwouk, obviously.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:18 |
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It's interesting Bert Kwouk wasn't ever in Who considering he's been in everything else.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:25 |
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Au contraire! He was Lin Futu in Four to Doomsday; it's Four to Doomsday, in which we also discover that Tegan happens to speak "Aboriginal", whatever that is, and I'll forgive anyone for having bleached the details out of their brain.
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# ? Feb 14, 2016 23:50 |
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I can't help think the Ribos Operation looks the way it is because someone found the Ivan the Terrible costumes and set laying around in storage. Was there ever any mention of Lela after she stayed on Gallifrey?
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 00:06 |
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twistedmentat posted:I can't help think the Ribos Operation looks the way it is because someone found the Ivan the Terrible costumes and set laying around in storage. Yeah, she's a big part of the Gallifrey series of audios.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 00:11 |
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Trin Tragula posted:Au contraire! He was Lin Futu in Four to Doomsday; it's Four to Doomsday, in which we also discover that Tegan happens to speak "Aboriginal", whatever that is, and I'll forgive anyone for having bleached the details out of their brain. Also Adric announces that girls don't like maths because they're stupid
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 00:12 |
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twistedmentat posted:I can't help think the Ribos Operation looks the way it is because someone found the Ivan the Terrible costumes and set laying around in storage. I'm sure there's at least one televised story where the Doctor is either on Gallifrey or meets another Time Lord, and they casually mention,"Oh yeah Leela is happy and doing great but she's off over somewhere else at the moment." I think it might have been a 5th Doctor story, maybe The Arc of Infinity?
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 01:25 |
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Jerusalem posted:I'm sure there's at least one televised story where the Doctor is either on Gallifrey or meets another Time Lord, and they casually mention,"Oh yeah Leela is happy and doing great but she's off over somewhere else at the moment."
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 01:46 |
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It would've made the most sense for Leela to stay with the Outsiders, since they were so much like her people. Just write in a bit where they ask her to lead them. Much better than quickly marrying her off.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 03:16 |
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From memory the whole thing boiled down to Louise Jameson openly and frequently telling the producers that she was going to leave at the end of the season and they kept laughing it off like they thought she was just trying to work out a better contract. Then when they finally realized she was serious, they threw a little tantrum about it and just wrote her out with,"Suddenly she fell in love with Ace Rimmer" even though she'd told them she was perfectly happy to be killed off or to come back to film some kind of proper goodbye/farewell.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 03:19 |
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Re-watching Rise of the Cybermen, and having determined the episode takes place on January 2, 2007 (being Cuba Gooding, Jr.'s 39th birthday), the phrase 'Christmas has come early' seems pretty stupid to use. WHY DID YOU NOT CATCH THIS, HELEN RAYNOR?!?
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 06:27 |
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Maybe in the alternate Earth, Christmas is celebrated at Easter time!
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 07:27 |
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Jerusalem posted:I'm sure there's at least one televised story where the Doctor is either on Gallifrey or meets another Time Lord, and they casually mention,"Oh yeah Leela is happy and doing great but she's off over somewhere else at the moment." Ah okay. That's fine, it would have just be odd to have that happen and just never mention it again.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 07:38 |
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Jerusalem posted:Then when they finally realized she was serious, they threw a little tantrum about it and just wrote her out with,"Suddenly she fell in love with Ace Rimmer" even though she'd told them she was perfectly happy to be killed off or to come back to film some kind of proper goodbye/farewell. What a guy.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 09:25 |
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Got round to listening to The Brotherhood Of The Daleks. The Dalek version of The Red Flag was adorable. Almost as much as the friendly Daleks in Dark Eyes .
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 11:43 |
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Possibly the best moment on British radio ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR9yE1vCVyU Howard Goodall captures Classic FM and seizes the opportunity to play the orchestral Ace Rimmer theme (and proves that there's no smooth way to say "and it was composed and conducted by me"). Because you would, wouldn't you?
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 11:45 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 10:49 |
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Trin Tragula posted:Au contraire! He was Lin Futu in Four to Doomsday; it's Four to Doomsday, in which we also discover that Tegan happens to speak "Aboriginal", whatever that is, and I'll forgive anyone for having bleached the details out of their brain. He was also in the audio Loups-Garoux
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 14:26 |