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Skyl3lazer posted:Have fun w/ this pile I've begun testing. It's budget as gently caress at the moment on the sideboard - there should be Primal Commands (Instead of at least the 3rd Sarkhan), and probably some other stuff I haven't decided on yet. A second Doubling Season or a Kiora, Master of Depths are the next things I'm looking to test in it. I've seen a few people touting Genesis Wave lists before, but they usually go the Primeval Titan+Kessig Wolf Run route. Looks like fun but I don't like Wave's interaction with the Legendary/Planeswalker rule. Also one Doubling Season seems low with so many walkers.
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Everyone in the thread was already on-board with Painter's Servant being bad, but here's Kevin Crimin going 1-4 in a League with it including 1-1 against Eldrazi, "the deck it's specifically designed to beat." Of course, he just made a really bad Affinity list and I'm not surprised it didn't do well, but specifically when Servant is involved in the gameplay it's just awful.
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Feb 15, 2016 01:09
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The problem with Servant is your opponent can just hit land drops and hardcast stuff since you just spent a turn putting a 1/3 on the battlefield also that list is awful and Painter's Servant might not even crack the top ten things wrong with it
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Feb 15, 2016 01:28
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Why does Wizards keep making Game Day on Valentines? I mean lol
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Feb 15, 2016 01:34
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Lightning Lord posted:Why does Wizards keep making Game Day on Valentines? I mean lol My LGS had it on Saturday. 
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Boco_T posted:Everyone in the thread was already on-board with Painter's Servant being bad, but here's Kevin Crimin going 1-4 in a League with it including 1-1 against Eldrazi, "the deck it's specifically designed to beat." Of course, he just made a really bad Affinity list and I'm not surprised it didn't do well, but specifically when Servant is involved in the gameplay it's just awful. Kevin is also hilariously, earth-shatteringly stupid and not very good at magic in general.
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Feb 15, 2016 01:57
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suicidesteve posted:I wanna say Kibler? There were like 1 or 2 others I think. There were way too many goons arguing that he shouldn't have banned too. Bob Huang is a huge piece of poo poo for many reasons
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Pyronic posted:Kevin is also hilariously, earth-shatteringly stupid and not very good at magic in general.
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Feb 15, 2016 02:14
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So has WotC publicly addressed the fact that someone opened and shared the contents of a SoI pack? If not, I think that's a fairly smart move. I was actually waiting for the tragic Trick article, but perhaps they chose to just say gently caress it and avoid bad publicity.
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GrapeFetus posted:So has WotC publicly addressed the fact that someone opened and shared the contents of a SoI pack? If not, I think that's a fairly smart move. I was actually waiting for the tragic Trick article, but perhaps they chose to just say gently caress it and avoid bad publicity. Honestly I dont think its a huge deal, and for all we know this could be the SoI version of the parking lot evolving wilds.
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Feb 15, 2016 02:18
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I'm assuming WotC cares a lot less about a couple packs worth of draft commons being spoiled than almost all of a set's rares and mythics being posted at once.
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Most of the time when stuff leaks they don't acknowledge it, so I wouldn't hold my breath. I guess the last one was because it was a long-term thing? Also Maro is explicitly for colour pie bends when they help a set. Keeping the colour pie steady when it's not helpful is what makes that possible without the game getting boring. Re green having no interaction: he's said they're adding one-sided fight seeing as the test card went well. Like every time the thread talks about Maro it really seems like everybody is talking about a different person. Truly, no two see the same Maro.
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whydirt posted:I'm assuming WotC cares a lot less about a couple packs worth of draft commons being spoiled than almost all of a set's rares and mythics being posted at once. and the big change to colorless mana, which confused everyone and hosed up their big cool announcement
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Feb 15, 2016 02:25
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3-1 and drew in with BW Eldrazi to get that sweet promo. Got owned by Mardu Dark Dwellers in the quarters but such is life.
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Allstone posted:Most of the time when stuff leaks they don't acknowledge it, so I wouldn't hold my breath. I guess the last one was because it was a long-term thing? We're talking about the Maro who doesn't understand EDH but feels the need to comment on it. And the one who talks about ham sandwiches and his toaster. Literally The Worst posted:and the big change to colorless mana, which confused everyone and hosed up their big cool announcement I find that funny because WotC hates doing stuff that confuses less enfranchised players but nothing confused them more than <>
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Literally The Worst posted:and the big change to colorless mana, which confused everyone and hosed up their big cool announcement That's Wizards' narrative, but just reading this thread it didn't look that way to me. When Kozilek and Mirrorpool were first leaked, there was maybe a day's worth of discussion over whether they were real and over whether diamond mana was the new symbol for colorless mana or just a new type of mana that could only be paid for by OGW cards like Wastes and Mirrorpool, then silence for a month. It was the official WotC spoiler reveal of diamond mana that gave us a weeklong shitshow of colorless-versus-generic and sixth-color and whatever else.
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"The game is irreparably damaged when some dirty leaker ruins our carefully-crafted announcements! In other news, all nonbasic lands are banned,"
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GrapeFetus posted:So has WotC publicly addressed the fact that someone opened and shared the contents of a SoI pack? If not, I think that's a fairly smart move. I was actually waiting for the tragic Trick article, but perhaps they chose to just say gently caress it and avoid bad publicity. their policy is to not address spoilers until it's relavant so they are literally doing exactly what you should expect also that pack was stolen, so i'm sure they will address it when it becomes prudent to do so cause you know, something actually illegal is involved
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Lightning Lord posted:We're talking about the Maro who doesn't understand EDH but feels the need to comment on it. And the one who talks about ham sandwiches and his toaster. People ask him about it so he talks about it at the moment he's talking about lightbulb jokes and foreign language cards. Like there are other wizards people running askboxes but they barely respond just let the giant tan goblin man live
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Lottery of Babylon posted:That's Wizards' narrative, but just reading this thread it didn't look that way to me. When Kozilek and Mirrorpool were first leaked, there was maybe a day's worth of discussion over whether they were real and over whether diamond mana was the new symbol for colorless mana or just a new type of mana that could only be paid for by OGW cards like Wastes and Mirrorpool, then silence for a month.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:That's Wizards' narrative, but just reading this thread it didn't look that way to me. When Kozilek and Mirrorpool were first leaked, there was maybe a day's worth of discussion over whether they were real and over whether diamond mana was the new symbol for colorless mana or just a new type of mana that could only be paid for by OGW cards like Wastes and Mirrorpool, then silence for a month. i work at a card shop and people were talking about it basically nonstop and even after wizards did their announcement people were still hanging onto their original, wrong ideas
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Literally The Worst posted:i work at a card shop and people were talking about it basically nonstop and even after wizards did their announcement people were still hanging onto their original, wrong ideas How many people bickered with the judges at the prerelease?
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Lottery of Babylon posted:That's Wizards' narrative, but just reading this thread it didn't look that way to me. When Kozilek and Mirrorpool were first leaked, there was maybe a day's worth of discussion over whether they were real and over whether diamond mana was the new symbol for colorless mana or just a new type of mana that could only be paid for by OGW cards like Wastes and Mirrorpool, then silence for a month. It makes me laugh that the leaked cards were literally the only three cards in the set that don't specifically tell you what diamond mana is.
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Lightning Lord posted:How many people bickered with the judges at the prerelease? it was p well resolved by then and we reiterated it at the start of every flight just in case and told people to judge call during deck con if they had questions worked out fine
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Angry Grimace posted:It makes me laugh that the leaked cards were literally the only three cards in the set that don't specifically tell you what diamond mana is. It was one of the reasons I thought they were fake because that was really convenient. Speaking of, finally got a OGW fatpack and have ♦-related cards physically in my possession, so I was well and truly wrong. Like I said I would, here's a shot of one of my cats covered in Wastes, including a foil one.  The other two will not cooperate with ♦-costing spells. I'll have to be sneaky with the warping wail.
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I've only just realized with the SoI spoilers that I can and will be jamming Jace the Madness Sculptortm as long as Origins remains Standard legal. Now, if I tap to loot does Jace flip first or do I get to cast the madness effect before Jace flips?
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torsoboy posted:I've only just realized with the SoI spoilers that I can and will be jamming Jace the Madness Sculptortm as long as Origins remains Standard legal. Now, if I tap to loot does Jace flip first or do I get to cast the madness effect before Jace flips? Jace looting and flipping is all a part of the same activated ability with no pause or priority pass in between. So you'd loot and flip him, and when the ability resolves, he will be a planeswalker and your madness trigger will be on the stack. Except if you discard to madness the card doesn't go to the graveyard, it goes to exile instead I believe so discarding a card with madness won't count as the 5th card in the yard? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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It looks like the details on how madness works is changing with SoI, based on the new reminder text. Right now, if you discard a card with madness into a graveyard of five cards, you can choose whether jace's flip trigger or the madness spell resolves first. With the new rules coming up, the flip will resolve first, assuming I remember the new reminder text right. e: also, yeah, your graveyard has to have five cards not counting the newly-discarded basking rootwalla.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Jace looting and flipping is all a part of the same activated ability with no pause or priority pass in between. So you'd loot and flip him, and when the ability resolves, he will be a planeswalker and your madness trigger will be on the stack. Except if you discard to madness the card doesn't go to the graveyard, it goes to exile instead I believe so discarding a card with madness won't count as the 5th card in the yard? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. quote:702.34. Madness The card never goes to the graveyard as part of Madness is a replacement for the discard. e: This also means if you can get a Processor in on it before the triggered ability resolves, like Ulamog's Nullifier and its Flash, you can prevent them from casting it. Unless the changed reminder text does in fact herald different rules, but this is how it is right now. Orange Fluffy Sheep fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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Literally The Worst posted:man i just googled this and lmao at people going "well chapin did time for drug charges!" like that's the same thing as serving three months for rape That argument came up in this very thread as part of the slippery slope! I hope that Pat Chapin sells me drugs and the rape man loses his wallet.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:The card never goes to the graveyard as part of Madness is a replacement for the discard. Lmao thats funny as hell if you can do that
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Feb 15, 2016 13:14
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Small wonder why they made all of the processor effects sorcery speed.
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Ramos posted:Small wonder why they made all of the processor effects sorcery speed. Ulamog's Nullifier.
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suicidesteve posted:Ulamog's Nullifier. Small wonder why they made all of the processor effects requiring a single card sorcery speed. Also, the amount of convoluted hoops to jump through to make that card useful while your opponent is activating madness is tad bit insane. Even madness, you might say.
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rabidsquid posted:That argument came up in this very thread as part of the slippery slope! I hope that Pat Chapin sells me drugs and the rape man loses his wallet. Lmao at the goons who did that then
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Ramos posted:Small wonder why they made all of the processor effects requiring a single card sorcery speed.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Not really? It doesn't work against Jace enabled madness, but if they cast a spell like Tormenting Voice or Lightning Axe can't you process the madness card and counter the spell? Those are two specific cards which aren't guaranteed to show up often at all and still requires that you have exiled another card and have four mana open. Might make for a cute move that gets a judge call with a miscall from the judge anyway at FNM, but little else. Maybe if Soy brings in some additional, more useful "discard as an additional cost" cards, we might need to worry about it, but I doubt it.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Not really? It doesn't work against Jace enabled madness, but if they cast a spell like Tormenting Voice or Lightning Axe can't you process the madness card and counter the spell? It still counts as them discarding the card, regardless of what happens after the card is discarded into exile. E: Wait no I just got it I'm stupid.
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Ramos posted:Those are two specific cards which aren't guaranteed to show up often at all and still requires that you have exiled another card and have four mana open. Might make for a cute move that gets a judge call with a miscall from the judge anyway at FNM, but little else. Maybe if Soy brings in some additional, more useful "discard as an additional cost" cards, we might need to worry about it, but I doubt it. Well yeah, we're assuming a lot: there are good discard outlets, Madness is playable with them, and Ulamog's Nullifier is playable. There's also all the other processors that process as an activated ability.
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I ordered some ugly DCI Fiery Tempers (HOT SPEC) so I'm ready for Jace madness.
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