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Aesop Poprock posted:CM Punk would lose against an angry straight edge hardcore guy in an 80s DC pit in like 10 seconds CM Punk Vs. Henry Rollins I'd pay to see that. Double if it was early 90's gymrat Henry Rollins
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Feb 15, 2016 08:00
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when I grow up I want to be as strong cool and handsom as my main man Cheese Man Punk
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Feb 15, 2016 08:58
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Chromatic posted:CM Punk Vs. Henry Rollins He'd have to dress up like in the video for Liar.  Edit: Apparently he kept the costume. 
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Feb 15, 2016 09:20
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Chokes McGee posted:Counterpoint: Butterbean was all "you know I'll lose the fight if you want?" and Vince was all "NO I'M VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON drat IT AND BRAWL FOR ALL IS A SACRED INSTITUTION THAT WILL NOT BE SOILED BY PREDETERMINED OUTCOMES!" and then the untrained boxer got beaten by the strong fat man and Vince buried the ever loving poo poo out of him for it because he's an insane old man even when he was less old. What I'm saying is wrestling is cool as hell.
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Feb 15, 2016 17:08
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I stand with Chick Magnet Punk and cant wait for the big swerve when CM Venom jumps into the octagon and levels both fighters with a chair shot.
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Feb 15, 2016 17:38
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Butterbean was all "you know I'll lose the fight if you want?" and Vince was all "NO I'M VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON drat IT AND BRAWL FOR ALL IS A SACRED INSTITUTION THAT WILL NOT BE SOILED BY PREDETERMINED OUTCOMES!" and then the untrained boxer got beaten by the strong fat man and Vince buried the ever loving poo poo out of him for it because he's an insane old man even when he was less old. Close; the Butterbean fight, and subsequent knockout, was a punishment for Bart knocking out Steve Williams earlier in the tournament.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:19
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BlueArmyMan posted:Close; the Butterbean fight, and subsequent knockout, was a punishment for Bart knocking out Steve Williams earlier in the tournament. I just wish that the near impossible happened, and Bart Gunn won that fight.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:32
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Sotar posted:I just wish that the near impossible happened, and Bart Gunn won that fight. Vince immediately books him into a shoot-MMA match with Ken Shamrock.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:59
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Actually last I heard a lot of upper management expected Bart Gunn to win. https://youtu.be/h4Q21HTJ5x4
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Feb 15, 2016 19:15
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I remember seeing Butterbean KO Bart Gunn when I was young and it might have been the first time I ever saw a dude get straight KO'd and understand what was happening enough to realise that Gunn wasn't okay so I thought Butterbean had killed him.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:02
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It makes a certain amount of sense that wrestlers are such tough guy fetishists that their self-delusion sometimes gets the better of them and they book shoots thinking they still have control of the outcome. Brawl for All was not the last time stuff like this would happen.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:57
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It makes a certain amount of sense that wrestlers are such tough guy fetishists that their self-delusion sometimes gets the better of them and they book shoots thinking they still have control of the outcome. Brawl for All was not the last time stuff like this would happen. So what else had stuff like this happen?
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Feb 15, 2016 21:05
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Herr Tog posted:So what else had stuff like this happen? When MMA was just starting to get big in Japan, New Japan (under Inoki's advisement) had crossovers between MMA and wrestling. Inoki thought some big up-and-coming names in their company would be bigger if they were also good at MMA, so they had fights, both arranged by the company on their shows and elsewhere. The most famous example was Yuji Nagata. 2001, he was in the perfect position to be their star. Everything they wanted. Everything Inoki wanted. About to be New Japan champ. And he wanted to show his prize to the world. So he did a special event (Bom-Be-Ye). Nagata, with no legit experience to speak of, Inoki thought was capable of beating Cro Cop, who was in his prime. Needless to say, quick and embarrassing, and the company responded by instead giving their belt to a former sumo wrestler (Tadao Yusuda) who submitted a K-1 guy (Jerome Le Banner) on the same show. It happened to at least a couple other people, but wasn't as embarrassing (off the top of my head, Nakamura lost his MMA debut to a Gracie but won 2 or 3 more fights after, and Sasaki did alright)
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Feb 15, 2016 21:22
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Chris James 2 posted:When MMA was just starting to get big in Japan, New Japan (under Inoki's advisement) had crossovers between MMA and wrestling. Inoki thought some big up-and-coming names in their company would be bigger if they were also good at MMA, so they had fights, both arranged by the company on their shows and elsewhere. Pretty good stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il66HYPgo3g
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Feb 15, 2016 21:36
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Josh Barnett said Nakamura had one of the quickest double legs he's ever seen. I wrote about Shinsuke's MMA career here http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/before-the-swag-chronicling-shinsuke-nakamuras-mma-history/ Also if you want to feel super sad, watch Alexey Ignashov vs Dr Death Because why not put a wrestler vs a really good kickboxer?
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Feb 15, 2016 21:51
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Huh, never knew Nakamura had fought in MMA. He did pretty well for himself too. Cool stuff.
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Feb 15, 2016 22:12
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LobsterMobster posted:Josh Barnett said Nakamura had one of the quickest double legs he's ever seen. I wrote about Shinsuke's MMA career here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS7V5KJoF1c wow
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Feb 15, 2016 22:20
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That was like right when he had cancer too!
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Feb 15, 2016 22:27
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LobsterMobster posted:Josh Barnett said Nakamura had one of the quickest double legs he's ever seen. I wrote about Shinsuke's MMA career here Didn't think I'd see a Flair Flop in the WSOF from 2013, but here we are.
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Feb 15, 2016 22:28
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RZApublican posted:Vince immediately books him into a shoot-MMA match with Ken Shamrock. UFC made a serious mistake not booking Shamrock vs. Punk for his debut. It's a fight Punk could actually possibly win after Shamrock dives in like 20 seconds
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Feb 15, 2016 22:29
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Herr Tog posted:So what else had stuff like this happen? WCW signed Tank Abbott partly because he was a tough shoot fighting guy One impromptu beard shaving when they were building him up later it kinda went awry
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Feb 15, 2016 22:31
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Cro Cop also destroyed Alberto Del Rio (in a luchador mask) in Pride's 1st Bushido event because Pride loving loved padding records with ridiculous squash matches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHG6LjtsxJM
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Feb 15, 2016 22:37
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Herr Tog posted:So what else had stuff like this happen? Well, there was the time WWE tried to haze a bunch of rookies on television by putting them in shoot grappling matches with Kurt Angle (who has a legit Olympic gold in freestyle wrestling). Unfortunately, what they don't teach you in freestyle wrestling is how to defend a kimura, and one of the young guys was a trained MMA guy (which WWE knew and promoted up front before deciding that this would be a good idea). Fortunately for Angle, the ref counted a very quick pin count to get him out of there, because god only knows that you're going to get a Gracie to tap before he does, and WWE were about ten seconds away from having one of their top guys on the shelf for three months because you thought it'd be super funny to do a stupid segment that nobody watched or cared about. Later on Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Bob Holly pretty much beat the poo poo out of the dude on pay-per-view for having the temerity to defend himself in a fight he didn't ask for, and so the integrity and honor of professional wrestling was duly restored.
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Feb 15, 2016 22:47
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Also, talking of Antonio Inoki, there's also the legendary Inoki vs Muhammed Ali match, where Ali's camp, rather than do a worked match, decided to make a set of (secret) rules that forbade Inoki from basically doing anything that might be classed as wrestling. Inoki, being someone who is not an idiot, instead decided to lay on his back and kick Ali in the legs. To a 15-round draw. While the Japanese fans threw garbage and chanted for their money back. Ali was left with permanent damage that may well have shortened his career. He did, however, wear two gloves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Antonio_Inoki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5bJ6J5bIY
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Feb 15, 2016 22:58
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It was also nearly a financial disaster for Vince Sr., who promoted it in New York with a closed-circuit broadcast in Shea Stadium. Problem was nobody in America knew who Inoki was so tickets weren't selling like he thought. Everyone went to see the André the Giant match that he put on as the semi-main.
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Feb 15, 2016 23:01
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Loving this poo poo. Wrestling is so insecure and petty
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Feb 16, 2016 00:06
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Luigi Thirty posted:It was also nearly a financial disaster for Vince Sr., who promoted it in New York with a closed-circuit broadcast in Shea Stadium. Problem was nobody in America knew who Inoki was so tickets weren't selling like he thought. Everyone went to see the André the Giant match that he put on as the semi-main. i remember jim ross saying he took out loans and lost a bunch of money investing in this
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Feb 16, 2016 01:15
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To be fair I'm pretty sure a kimura lock is illegal in amateur wrestling
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Feb 16, 2016 01:23
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Hace posted:To be fair I'm pretty sure a kimura lock is illegal in amateur wrestling It is. Either Dave or mark schultz got dq'ed at a major tournament (probably the Olympics) for breaking a Turkish guy's arm with a kimura. The tournament was double elimination, and the Turk was the best wrestler there, so schultz ending up winning gold
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Feb 16, 2016 01:34
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Mark I guess https://youtu.be/mhTqKePonjg
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Feb 16, 2016 01:39
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My favourite Wrestler Vs trained fighter match was when Jushin Thunder Liger opened with a somersault kick and immediately got the gently caress knocked out of him.
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Feb 16, 2016 02:13
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david carmichael posted:Mark I guess my favorite orympic wrestling anecodtes are that chokes weren't technically illegal either, so Dave caught all his oppnents in a headhpock, reduced them to unconsciousness, and then pinned them.
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Feb 16, 2016 02:40
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fatherdog posted:my favorite orympic wrestling anecodtes are that chokes weren't technically illegal either, so Dave caught all his oppnents in a headhpock, reduced them to unconsciousness, and then pinned them. i couldn't believe it hughes pulled that off against almeida, gotta be up there with the best subs of all time
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Feb 16, 2016 04:49
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fatherdog posted:my favorite orympic wrestling anecodtes are that chokes weren't technically illegal either, so Dave caught all his oppnents in a headhpock, reduced them to unconsciousness, and then pinned them. nah I mean he got cautioned about it in his gold medal match. Then the other dude rolled around on the mat for what seems like hours holding his throat
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Feb 16, 2016 08:58
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My favourite bit of MMA crossover is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcGjmRXA0xc Shinya Aoki gets a proper taste of karmic retribution in that one. It is MMA vs Kickboxing and they alternating rules in the rounds, so Aoki spends the first round (kickboxing rules) just acting like an idiot, breaking rules and generally avoiding contact trying to get to round 2 and the mma rules.. Then in round 2 Jienotsu knees him in the head immediately and knocks him out.
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Feb 16, 2016 18:44
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What are the chances CM Punk actually wins his first fight?
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Feb 16, 2016 22:03
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RagingHematoma posted:What are the chances CM Punk actually wins his first fight? Since he has to actually have a fight to win it, zero.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:05
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RagingHematoma posted:What are the chances CM Punk actually wins his first fight? They would have to find a wheelchair accessible octagon to get an opponent CM Punk could realistically beat in there.
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CM Punk will be UFC Intercontinental Champion by this time next year.
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