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I was just watching the Rock/Austin match from WM15 and that got me thinking about if there was an early plan for WM16 if Austin hadn't been injured. What were some matches that were planned for a Wrestlemania that didn't end up happening for one reason or another? Wasn't a Cena/Triple H rematch on the cards for WM23 originally that got shelved when he blew his quad?
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Why has Xpac never gotten one last run with the WWE? They've had literally everyone else including Road Dogg, and he was still good, last I saw at a King of Trios show. Has anyone ever said?
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Feb 16, 2016 02:07
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rotinaj posted:Why has Xpac never gotten one last run with the WWE? They've had literally everyone else including Road Dogg, and he was still good, last I saw at a King of Trios show. Has anyone ever said? 
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Feb 16, 2016 02:09
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Havoc904 posted:I was just watching the Rock/Austin match from WM15 and that got me thinking about if there was an early plan for WM16 if Austin hadn't been injured. It was. Hogan/Warrior II was planned for a few months after WM 6 until Warrior tanked on top and they brought in Slaughter. Luger/Yokozuna is another big one, planned for WM 10 only to end up as two title matches with Hart/Yokozuna as the main. That change happened shortly after the Rumble when it was clear Hart was more over. WM 13 was originally going to be Hart/Michaels. Austin was originally supposed to wrestle the British Bulldog.
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Feb 16, 2016 02:09
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Wasn't WM 17 supposed to be Shawn-HHH before Shawn came to a taping and was still an obvious drug addict
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Feb 16, 2016 02:37
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Not completely sure but I think WM 19 was supposed to be UT/Nathan jones versus show/A-Train but at some point it was decided jones was so bad they did an injury angle and UT wrestled a handicap match.
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Feb 16, 2016 02:45
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Nathan Jones still got a Wrestlemania payday out of that, because he still appeared. Then he waited until an Australian tour to take off because he got free airfare. He played it pretty smart. Him and Nash should hang out.
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Feb 16, 2016 03:04
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Memento posted:Kurt Angle is currently 47 years old, and has spent the last 20+ years beating the loving poo poo out of himself on the mat and in the ring with wrestling and out of the ring with drugs and booze and legal issues. He has multiple serious issues with his neck (spinal and tumour), nerve damage causing muscular atrophy, and has been spotted in a wheelchair more than once due to knee damage (I think). Man Austin wasn't kidding when he said Kurt took to the industry faster than anyone he ever knew.
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Feb 16, 2016 03:26
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WHOOPS posted:Man Austin wasn't kidding when he said Kurt took to the industry faster than anyone he ever knew. In his book Angle said he made his pro debut (against Christian) FIVE DAYS after he began training.
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Feb 16, 2016 03:33
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rotinaj posted:Why has Xpac never gotten one last run with the WWE? They've had literally everyone else including Road Dogg, and he was still good, last I saw at a King of Trios show. Has anyone ever said? As good as he was at King of Trios 2011, your question can be answered if you watch King of Trios 2012. Havoc904 posted:What were some matches that were planned for a Wrestlemania that didn't end up happening for one reason or another? Hulk Hogan vs. Zeus at WM6.
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Feb 16, 2016 04:00
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Let us not forget the legendary British Bulldog vs Berzerker match that did not happen at Wrestlemania 8.
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Feb 16, 2016 04:20
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Not to mention Earthquake vs. Ludvig Borga at Wrestlemania X.
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Feb 16, 2016 04:45
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Then there is WM 30 which 8 months out was tentatively Punk vs Orton for the title. Then it became what we knew and loved with Batista vs Orton, HHH vs Punk and Sheamus vs Bryan.
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Feb 16, 2016 04:51
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Havoc904 posted:I was just watching the Rock/Austin match from WM15 and that got me thinking about if there was an early plan for WM16 if Austin hadn't been injured. Wade Barrett vs. Undertaker was built for WM27. Kane beat Undertaker in a Buried Alive match when Nexus beat down Undertaker. HHH vs. Undertaker 1 (2?) replaced it.
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Feb 16, 2016 05:25
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There was a 10 man tag match set for Wrestlemania 10, but it was cut for time during the show. The match took place on Raw the next night.
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Feb 16, 2016 06:13
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There was the Rhodes Scholars and Bellas vs, Brodus, Tensai, and the Funkadactyls which was bumped for Total Divas drama at 29.
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Feb 16, 2016 06:19
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Bam Bam and Kamala at WM IX
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Feb 16, 2016 07:09
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Perry Normal posted:Bam Bam and Kamala at WM IX Didn't have time for that. Needed to make room for Hogan's racist promo.
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Feb 16, 2016 07:35
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EugeneJ posted:Wasn't WM 17 supposed to be Shawn-HHH before Shawn came to a taping and was still an obvious drug addict And that's why Triple H was fed to the Undertaker at X7 (branding, people!) even before the streak was a thing, because he vouched for Shawn during the latest attempted comeback. Which brings up another interesting question: Is this the last time Triple H was ever punished?
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Feb 16, 2016 14:40
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Who said he was punished? I've never heard that. Doesn't make any sense really. In fact, im gonna say it's bollocks
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Feb 16, 2016 15:03
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Davros1 posted:In his book Angle said he made his pro debut (against Christian) FIVE DAYS after he began training. Jesus, imagine what would have happened to the business had Raven not crucified the Sandman in 1996
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Feb 16, 2016 16:16
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ICHIBAHN posted:Who said he was punished? I've never heard that. Doesn't make any sense really. In fact, im gonna say it's bollocks Pretty sure it's straight from Meltzer
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Feb 16, 2016 16:37
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This is more of a what-if question but: If Austin never had his neck injury how much longer would he have been an active wrestler? How much would that change the Attitude Era and beyond? I think we'd see a different wrestling style, not focused fully on his ground game/brawler moves. He was kinda in a poo poo position around 02 with his garbage Scott Hall feud though. Would he have just fizzled out?
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Feb 16, 2016 16:44
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WHOOPS posted:Man Austin wasn't kidding when he said Kurt took to the industry faster than anyone he ever knew. Who else took to wrestling really quickly? Chad Gable is one, he's way better than he should be at this stage of his career. And Stroman of course.
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Feb 16, 2016 16:48
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OldTennisCourt posted:This is more of a what-if question but: If Austin never had his neck injury how much longer would he have been an active wrestler? How much would that change the Attitude Era and beyond? I think we'd see a different wrestling style, not focused fully on his ground game/brawler moves. He was kinda in a poo poo position around 02 with his garbage Scott Hall feud though. Would he have just fizzled out? It's not unreasonable to think that if he never had all the injuries, he might be in the part time main eventer scene today.
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Feb 16, 2016 16:50
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Sounds like a HHH punishment. Forced to have a high profile match against the Undertaker at the biggest Wrestlemania at the peak of the Attitude era a month after beating Austin. That'll learn him.
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Feb 16, 2016 16:51
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Yup. Nonsense. Never heard meltzer say that
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Feb 16, 2016 17:03
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ICHIBAHN posted:Yup. Nonsense. Never heard meltzer say that I'm pretty sure the original plan was HHH Vs Mike Tyson and once that fell through they planned HHH Vs Taker and then HHH did something to get heat, I forget what, and rather than win at Mania 17 he lost. As I said, a HHH punishment. Like after he hugged his mates goodbye and he spent an entire year still winning matches but not as high profile as they could have been. We still hear him bitch about that.
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Feb 16, 2016 17:08
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http://insidepulse.com/2008/06/07/scotts-mailbag-of-doom/quote:Question #5! (STOP sending me e-mail, people, so I can finish this column and go to bed)
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Feb 16, 2016 17:10
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I'm hearing that due to HHH's good friend Titus O'Neil's foolish attack on Vince McMahon, HHH will be forced to do the job for Roman Reigns at this year's Mania
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Feb 16, 2016 17:12
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triplexpac posted:Who else took to wrestling really quickly? Chad Gable is one, he's way better than he should be at this stage of his career. According to his peers, Barry Windham was a natural.
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Feb 16, 2016 17:17
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triplexpac posted:Who else took to wrestling really quickly? Chad Gable is one, he's way better than he should be at this stage of his career. Big Show
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Feb 16, 2016 17:22
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Are any of Arn Anderson's or Barry Windham's kids in the business? I know Tully's and obviously Flair's are, so I'm wondering if we'll ever see a 2nd generation Four Horsemen.
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Feb 16, 2016 19:15
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El Gallinero Gros posted:According to his peers, Barry Windham was a natural. Same with Dustin Rhodes.
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Feb 16, 2016 19:16
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sticklefifer posted:Are any of Arn Anderson's or Barry Windham's kids in the business? I know Tully's and obviously Flair's are, so I'm wondering if we'll ever see a 2nd generation Four Horsemen. I decided to look this up, and got kinda disturbed. Bray Wyatt is named Windham Rotunda. Barry Windham has a daughter. Her name? Abigail. Bray Wyatt would be so much better if literally everything he did was some reference to a friend of his father's.
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Feb 16, 2016 19:18
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triplexpac posted:Who else took to wrestling really quickly? Chad Gable is one, he's way better than he should be at this stage of his career. Jun Akiyama. All 3 guys were high level amateurs too.
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Feb 16, 2016 19:46
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Derp, forget it
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Feb 16, 2016 19:56
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Between, say, 2004 and 2014, what are the WWE's best top-to-bottom PPV cards? Apart from MiTB 2011, I watched it pretty recently.
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Feb 16, 2016 20:06
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St Evan Echoes posted:Between, say, 2004 and 2014, what are the WWE's best top-to-bottom PPV cards? Apart from MiTB 2011, I watched it pretty recently. Wrestlemania 24 was extremely good the entire way through.
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St Evan Echoes posted:Between, say, 2004 and 2014, what are the WWE's best top-to-bottom PPV cards? Apart from MiTB 2011, I watched it pretty recently. One Night Stand 2005
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