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Toilet Mouth posted:It doesn't have a greater than 50% chance of happening, but doesn't San Diego staying put and the Raiders going to LA seem like a plausible outcome? Yes, if by some miracle the Chargers run out the clock without committing then the Raiders would probably go to LA.
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Ammanas posted:The stadium sucks but its not about to be condemned you're happily parroting Owner Bullshit Let's not underplay the fact that the locker rooms flood with sewage whenever it rains a lot. O.Co isn't terrible but single fact is enough to warrant a new stadium or heavy renovations. Meanwhile, Qualcomm is boring and cold and you get bad cell service but it's a perfectly serviceable stadium as is.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:51
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computer parts posted:Yes, if by some miracle the Chargers run out the clock without committing then the Raiders would probably go to LA. Seems like the best outcome for everyone, seems like the Raiders have a lot more built-in fandom in LA than the Chargers. The Chargers must have some interest in leveraging the city and staying in SD or else what's the purpose of this 12 month ultimatum?
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the chargers got 12 months just to see if some dumbass city councilperson panics and comes running in with billions in public money
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v2vian man posted:the chargers got 12 months just to see if some dumbass city councilperson panics and comes running in with billions in public money Pretty much. Also Spanos would prefer not being a junior partner. I don't think Davis really cares one way or the other because they're the loving Raiders in Los Angeles.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:28
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Kroenke should be shitscared of the Raiders also coming to LA. Because LA cares infinitely more about the Raiders than the Rams.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:30
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Two teams in LA is dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.
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Toilet Mouth posted:Seems like the best outcome for everyone, seems like the Raiders have a lot more built-in fandom in LA than the Chargers. The Chargers must have some interest in leveraging the city and staying in SD or else what's the purpose of this 12 month ultimatum? The Chargers would make more money in LA, but probably can't afford to be a full partner in Inglewood. In San Diego, they have a fanbase and can attempt to build a stadium. If it doesn't work out, they can say, "Well, we tried" and go be Kroenke's tenant. Also, Spanos is talking about his loyalty and love for SD, which falls a little flat given that for a year he was focused on getting the hell out of town.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Kroenke should be shitscared of the Raiders also coming to LA. This isn't actually true
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Ross Angeles posted:This isn't actually true They're fair weather more than anything else. If the LA team doesn't have the success of the contemporary patriots, Angelinos aren't going to fight the traffic to fill the stadium. But if you had to rank the three teams on nothing more than brand value to the market, it'd go Raiders, Rams, Chargers.
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Ross Angeles posted:This isn't actually true I don't remember NWA wearing LA Rams hats in Straight Outta Compton 
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Bad Moon posted:I don't remember NWA wearing LA Rams hats in Straight Outta Compton this may surprise you, but Los Angeles is bigger than Compton
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Ross Angeles posted:This isn't actually true Wrong. As always about fandom in LA.
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Feb 15, 2016 23:49
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the raiders would be second class citizens in la, so even if they end up doing well enough to be la's team, kroenke will still get the prestige he wants by having a top team playing out of the top stadium in a major market that can host the draft and nfl network and poo poo. but as far as second class citizenship goes, you can't do better than a second class citizen in the nicest stadium in the league in one of the biggest league markets in a neutral stadium with digital displays for all logos. not to mention that kroenke is totally down to throw money at anything that sounds cool, to include separate halls of fame for each team and all sorts of poo poo like that which would make raiders fans just as at home as rams fans. i'd expect mark to announce the raiders are moving to la within 24 hours of the chargers getting a stadium deal or their deadline expiring. as far as popularity, the la raiders are way more popular nationally than the la rams, and they'll get all the hippity hop street cred. so that may or may not result in better attendance, but they'll sure as poo poo sell more merchandise.
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Feb 16, 2016 00:03
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The Rams suck. That's all I know.
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What are you talking about. Jeff Fisher is the perfect guy to really energize that LA base.
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Feb 16, 2016 00:24
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Is 2025 the O/U on LA losing all its teams again
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Volkerball posted:What are you talking about. Jeff Fisher is the perfect guy to really energize that LA base. USC USC USC
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zen death robot posted:Kroenke has to die first, give it 20 years then his wife will be sick of the west coast and want to move the Rams to her hometown of Bentonville, Arkansas The Walton Rams.
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computer parts posted:The Walton Rams. The Bentonville Rollbacks.
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Donkwich posted:Is 2025 the O/U on LA losing all its teams again They're not gonna lose a team for atleast 20+ years, when they need a new stadium and LA won't pay
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You know how SD Charger fans would not travel to LA for games? SD Raider fans would make that drive in a heartbeat.
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Zurreco posted:You know how SD Charger fans would not travel to LA for games? SD Raider fans would make that drive in a heartbeat. Absolutely
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Zurreco posted:You know how SD Charger fans would not travel to LA for games? SD Raider fans would make that drive in a heartbeat. A fairly significant portion of the Oakland ticket holders drive up from LA every week.
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Feb 16, 2016 04:45
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People travel from all over and pack the stadium to see the Chargers now though when their favorite team is at Qualcomm
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:It's the same reason the Packers and Bills own for being so far north, yet still playing in open stadiums. :black101: The problem isn't the roof (league rules mandate the roof is open unless there is projected inclement weather) but some super efficient cooling that keeps the players generally safe *yawn*.
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Rick posted:The problem isn't the roof (league rules mandate the roof is open unless there is projected inclement weather) but some super efficient cooling that keeps the players generally safe *yawn*. What's the point of being in the middle of a desert if you can't use 110 degree heat against your opponents? Heatstroke is home field advantage, dammit.
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Volkerball posted:the raiders would be second class citizens in la, so even if they end up doing well enough to be la's team, kroenke will still get the prestige he wants by having a top team playing out of the top stadium in a major market that can host the draft and nfl network and poo poo. but as far as second class citizenship goes, you can't do better than a second class citizen in the nicest stadium in the league in one of the biggest league markets in a neutral stadium with digital displays for all logos. not to mention that kroenke is totally down to throw money at anything that sounds cool, to include separate halls of fame for each team and all sorts of poo poo like that which would make raiders fans just as at home as rams fans. i'd expect mark to announce the raiders are moving to la within 24 hours of the chargers getting a stadium deal or their deadline expiring. lol the Rams as a top team lolololol All of his teams, outside of Arsenal, which barely counts, suck.
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Hey now, the Avs won a Stanley Cup under his ownership And in 2009 he made Vince McMahon throw a toddler tantrum. Not many owners can lay claim to that!
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The first year of his ownership They then did nothing of note.
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JRizzle posted:lol the Rams as a top team lolololol i was talking about the raiders. the rams are doomed. and the avs loving suck and i hated kroenke long before this saga.
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JRizzle posted:lol the Rams as a top team lolololol Are we really going to say that Arsenal doesn't suck?
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So is like the potential for the Las Vegas Raiders still just a distant pipe dream? The Sands CEO wants to build a billion dollar stadium for UNLV near the strip that'll seat 65k the teams could share. Any chance of that being a real option or is Vegas just being used as leverage yet again and lol den of sin and gambling 
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Ragnarok the Red posted:So is like the potential for the Las Vegas Raiders still just a distant pipe dream? The Sands CEO wants to build a billion dollar stadium for UNLV near the strip that'll seat 65k the teams could share. Yes
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As long as Sheldon Adelson loses a shitload of money somehow I'm ok with whatever happens
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Donkwich posted:As long as Sheldon Adelson loses a shitload of money somehow I'm ok with whatever happens If only he could lose more. Like two shitloads.
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MrLogan posted:Are we really going to say that Arsenal doesn't suck? They're two points off the league lead and just beat the top team
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ESPN's effort post on the LA relocation made it seem like the Raiders were hardly even considered because the old white men running things were scared of how LA gangs had previously co-opted Raiders swag.
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"I don't like them hippity hoppity thugs" -Dan Snyder
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