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Tubesock Holocaust posted:It's adorable how he thinks he actually has a chance with Dr. Mrs. The Monarch. If the Monarch doesn't put two and two together and whack the guy, I fully expect the Phantom Limb to kick his teeth in. Given the look between him and Wide Wale at the end, I thought Copycat was just hitting on her as a pretense. If the whole thing was planned in advance, as it appears to have been, it probably wasn't just to get in Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's pants.
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tarlibone posted:Not only that, though. Let's face it: outside of knowing who he hates, how much he hates him, and how to best deploy this hatred in a way that prolongs the suffering of the target of his hate, how smart is the Monarch? OTOH: 1. He's stolen like $10 million from Rusty, Billy and White 2. He's outsmarted/tricked JJ 3. Dr. Mrs. Whatever-now invited him to a party with the council and didn't tell him not to wear his costume (granted you are probably right about him not owning anything else) 4. It's kinda hard to declare something as clearly flawed when its never been tested 5. Yeah the sunshine thing was dumb but that's technically on his wife for coming up with it. Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Feb 16, 2016 |
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He's very good at arching. His plans might not always work but he's very good being an arch enemy. He doesn't own any other clothes. He has his monarch costume and that robe, that's pretty much it.
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Feb 16, 2016 05:46
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Xelkelvos posted:Copycat's cloning is based on him snapping his fingers so it's likely Monarch will break his fingers (or his fingers get broken in some hilarious manner) before the coup de gras I could see the Monarch screwing with his cloning powers and make him spawn hundreds of himself in an elevator or similarly small room until he pops. I'd also wager heavily that we see a Godfather-like montage of the new Blue Morpho dispatching villains since we already have a Vito Corleone-ish villain with references to the GF and I don't think they'll stretch out his murder spree more than absolutely necessary (especially since we're already 3 eps in and he just now found out who his dad was).
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Feb 16, 2016 05:53
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He's got that beaver inspector t-shirt!
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Feb 16, 2016 05:55
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Maybe we'll get a look at him putting on the costume, a scene where he kills Redusa then just a montage of random throwaway villains.
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Feb 16, 2016 06:07
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Raskolnikov38 posted:3. Dr. Mrs. Whatever-now invited him to a party with the council and didn't tell him not to wear his costume (granted you are probably right about him not owning anything else) He says this outright in the episode where he and Dr. Mrs. go to plant bombs at the compound.
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Cojawfee posted:He's very good at arching. His plans might not always work but he's very good being an arch enemy. He doesn't own any other clothes. He has his monarch costume and that robe, that's pretty much it. Either he has one single pair of underwear, or he's aggressively into tiger stripe thongs.
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RandallODim posted:Either he has one single pair of underwear, or he's aggressively into tiger stripe thongs. Do you want me to have panty lines? This thing is a skin tight black body suit! It hides nothing! NOTHING! I love how Blue Morpho was by Jack Kirby.
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Feb 16, 2016 06:34
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I liked the Jerry Lewis movie in an episode featuring a character based on Dean Martin.
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LostRook posted:Given the look between him and Wide Wale at the end, I thought Copycat was just hitting on her as a pretense. If the whole thing was planned in advance, as it appears to have been, it probably wasn't just to get in Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's pants. That was my take on it as well. Copycat also outright said early on that he wasn't hitting on her but wanted her to consider him for the council, which fills in his motivation. Did I miss some reason that Wide Wale is out to get The Monarch? It made sense that he wanted the arching rights to Dr. Venture, but this last episode made it seem a lot more vindictive. Also a bit retready of Sergeant Hatred getting the rights to Venture in an earlier season and lording it over the Monarch as revenge.
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Avasculous posted:That was my take on it as well. Copycat also outright said early on that he wasn't hitting on her but wanted her to consider him for the council, which fills in his motivation. Well we figure at this point it has to do at least partially with Monarch murdering his brother back in Season 3
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Feb 16, 2016 07:50
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When do the T shirts ship out? Is it all at once after the season is over?
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I wonder how Kano's going to take the Monarch's Blue Morpho routine.
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Avasculous posted:Did I miss some reason that Wide Wale is out to get The Monarch? It made sense that he wanted the arching rights to Dr. Venture, but this last episode made it seem a lot more vindictive.
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X_Toad posted:Wide Wale has been hinted to be the brother of Doctor Dugong, a super-scientist whom was executed by the Monarch in season 3. Many believe that Wide Wale is out for revenge against the Monarch because of that. It makes sense too, Wale's been shown to be caring of his friends and family, and even his underlings to an extent(like how incensed he got at Monarch's comment about his number 2's appearance)
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Hey, do you think Wide Wale's brother's name was Dug?
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Mr. Fowl posted:Hey, do you think Wide Wale's brother's name was Dug? It's Douglas. So, yes. Doug Ong.
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Cojawfee posted:He's very good at arching. His plans might not always work but he's very good being an arch enemy. He doesn't own any other clothes. He has his monarch costume and that robe, that's pretty much it. Yeah, he's a savant when it comes to actually being somebody's arch-villain, and that's probably mostly down to the fact that he actually deeply, honestly, genuinely "cares" about just ruining the lives of his nemesis. He tried going through the motions with Dr. Dugong but it just wasn't the same, and you can tell he's happiest when he's actually loving with Rusty. All the Guild rules and regulations are stuff he knows he is supposed to follow, and he does for the most part, but you can tell how much it irks him to have to put up with all the red tape and bureaucracy. Other heroes/villains basically go through the motions/don't particularly care beyond it being their job, but The Monarch REALLY hates Rusty and he loves the poo poo out of arching him.
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It also helps explain what Doctor Girlfriend sees in him. She wanted to be a supervillain, but couldn't hack it. She says it's because she couldn't handle her moppets, but I think it's more than that. She doesn't have the passion to do it on her own. She could have arched the Order of the Triad in season 2, but she got annoyed and left when they made fun of her voice. It was a cursory effort -- going through the motions because it's what she was supposed to do, just like when she was working for Limb. The only time we see her getting real satisfaction from her work is when she's with the Monarch because he has enough passion and hate for both of them. Without him she's lost.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I wonder how Kano's going to take the Monarch's Blue Morpho routine. I didn't think about this. Team venture and especially Kano will remember Blue Morpho. What happened to the original has to come up at some point.
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Cojawfee posted:I didn't think about this. Team venture and especially Kano will remember Blue Morpho. What happened to the original has to come up at some point.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Colonel Gentleman and the Action Man also live in NYC at this point so presumably they will make an appearance. 
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Redusa kind of cleaned up nicely. Also good to know that her shrink-powers aren't permanent. Not that it wouldn't make Red Mantle more amusing to have one of his heads be tiny for a few episodes. As regards the Monarch's intellect - I kind of forget, now, did we ever find out what Dr. Mrs. the Monarch got her doctorate in?
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Jerusalem posted:Other heroes/villains basically go through the motions/don't particularly care beyond it being their job, but The Monarch REALLY hates Rusty and he loves the poo poo out of arching him. At one point, the Monarch was loving a robot with Rusty's face. Dude absolutely gets off on his hate.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:As regards the Monarch's intellect - I kind of forget, now, did we ever find out what Dr. Mrs. the Monarch got her doctorate in? She studied under Phantom Limb didn't she? Wasn't he a professor of physics or robotics or something?
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Guys, there's no point wondering what her degree was in. Rusty studied Science. Phantom Limb studied Science. Dr. Mrs. the Monarch has a doctorate in Science. That's how science works in this kind of world. Once you're good at one science you're good at all of them.
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I don't know Rusty is a gently caress ton better at cloning than anything else.
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Slime posted:Guys, there's no point wondering what her degree was in. Rusty studied Science. Phantom Limb studied Science. Dr. Mrs. the Monarch has a doctorate in Science. That's how science works in this kind of world. Once you're good at one science you're good at all of them. There's also no point wondering about it because in one of the comic-con events that Doc and Jackson participated in, someone asked this question flat-out, and Doc became visibly annoyed. He didn't answer the question, either. At least, not seriously. But yeah... they are not going there.
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I hope there are more Blue Morpho flashbacks this seasons, it would be a shame to get Paul F. Tompkins just for a two line character, even if he's a significant one in this universe.
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greatn posted:I don't know Rusty is a gently caress ton better at cloning than anything else. Is he? I assumed the cloning tanks were leftover from Jonas, and Rusty just used them. Since they were destroyed, it's not like Rusty made more. Edit: Also, Rusty couldn't clone 24. Or Hitler.
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Red posted:Is he? He absolutely could clone either of those. He refuses to clone hitler and he doesn't do 24 because he doesn't get paid. They just would be babies. He clones the kid that gets killed by gorillas at his daycamp.
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Kesper North posted:He wasn't sure. Could have been Sumerian. too many death cults
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How much of a role did Ben (the old man who lives next to Jonas Sr/Rusty from A Very Venture Halloween) play in the cloning technology? Like, a lot or a little?
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Colonel Gentleman and the Action Man also live in NYC at this point so presumably they will make an appearance. Action Man is dead, right? Orpheus predicted his death by stroke, I'm sure he was buried in the same episode as Dr Entman was. I'm sure Rusty is meant to be great at cloning, only continuing his work is illegal.
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LashLightning posted:Action Man is dead, right? Orpheus predicted his death by stroke, I'm sure he was buried in the same episode as Dr Entman was. That was JJ that was buried. Orpheus actually predicted Action Man's wife dying.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He absolutely could clone either of those. He refuses to clone hitler and he doesn't do 24 because he doesn't get paid. They just would be babies. He clones the kid that gets killed by gorillas at his daycamp. I forgot about the daycamper, though he bumped him up to his regular age.
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MrSlam posted:How much of a role did Ben (the old man who lives next to Jonas Sr/Rusty from A Very Venture Halloween) play in the cloning technology? Ben implies that he and Jonas did the lion's share of the work on the cloning project, he says that they "perfected genetic engineering" together. Although he also says that he and Rusty were on the same page in regard to it being "a loving band-aid for a really big boo-boo," so presumably he was actively working with Rusty after Jonas's death.
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Seems like Jonas and Ben worked on it. Then Rusty had Ben help him clone the boys just in case.
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