PT6A posted:

Oh hey, remember when Calgary removed fluoride from its drinking water, a campaign led by Druh "The Biggest, Dumbest oval office Ever" Farrell? Guess what happened: the thing that everyone should've loving known would happen!

http://www.660news.com/2016/02/17/tooth-decay-up-in-calgary-after-city-takes-fluoride-out-of-water/

Cultural Imperial posted:

Speaking of retard dentists, what's up with Dalhousie gentlemen's club? Did all those motherfuckers graduate and find jobs?

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'The university has been advised that many members of the Facebook Group have secured employment as dentists, which would require licensure," Gomery said in an email.

"To date only one licensing board has contacted Dalhousie for information about a student who belonged to the Facebook Group," she said.

David Corbett posted:

The anti-fluoridation idiots are out in force on Facebook and comment threads about this latest public health debacle. I eagerly await their next crusade - perhaps against iodized salt or folic acid, since clearly what this country has been lacking is an epidemic of birth defects.

Albino Squirrel posted:

Medicine is a collection of autists, greedy sumbitches, and burnt-out idealists, seasoned with the occasional pants-on-head retard.

Fortunately we have dentists and engineers to make us look good.

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No one saw it coming. On a Wednesday caucus day, Trudeau looked into the eyes of people who had served the party for decades, many working side by side with his own father, and quickly pulled the blade across their necks. The senators were dazed. Senate Leader James Cowan faced the public with his guts still hanging out, mumbling hollowly that the decision was “courageous.” Like amputees suffering from phantom limb syndrome, the one-time Liberal senators could still not believe what they had lost: the body itself.

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I asked why Trudeau didn’t warn them in advance as a courtesy: why the shock butchery? The adviser explained that this was more than just about Senate reform; it was a signal about the man who was in charge. A killer.

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For the last 100 days, Trudeau has tried to manoeuvre around the Maginot line of political cynicism with a blitzkrieg of empathy, the likes of which we have never seen, feeling the pain of every person, province and program. All we have now is the romance.

Ikantski posted:

Financial planners: Government pensions, like teachers pension and other union pensions, are a private fund. I can't buy $10k worth of ORPP and trade it. I was calling a public fund something the public can buy like a mutual fund or ETF. Of course pension fund managers are going to tear down mutual funds and vice versa.

I don't get how you trust the ORPP, which is at arm's length but headed by a longtime OLP bureaucrat, to be arm's length. You've got Trudeau campaigning in person for the OLP and you think Saad Rafi is going to make impartial decisions when Trudeau and Wynne start asking pensions to invest in their infrastructure, http://ca.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idCAKCN0VJ2GW

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rachel-notley-s-ndp-lifts-ban-on-the-rebel-says-it-made-a-mistake-1.3451838?cmp=rss

Rachel Notley's NDP lifts ban on The Rebel, says it made a mistake

Alberta government said last week that journalists from conservative news site 'are not journalists'

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/auto-loan-debt-transunion-1.3451682?cmp=rss

Auto loan delinquency spikes in Alberta, Saskatchewan

Credit agency TransUnion points to non-mortgage debt defaults in oil-producing provinces

jm20 posted:

DariusLikewise posted:

Burn the Senate to the ground.

eNeMeE posted:

I'd like it to be an actual chamber of sober second thought where things get looked at to see if they're legal and actually do what they say they're supposed to do what effects they're likely to have published where everyone can read the results. Would have cut down on the legal bills for all that unconstitutional legislation that was struck down by the Supreme Court.

Dreylad posted:

I'm not really sure the two are comparable. And of those two groups of people one group doesn't charge absurd administration fees to manage people's money. I'll let you figure out which it is.

Pension law and pensions are complicated for a reason: because there have been lots of shenanigans in the past with pension funds, and there's been a ton of legislation to prevent what you're talking about. Those laws haven't been ignored yet, but if you don't trust the laws to be enforced when it comes to managing pension funds in this province or in this country you must have a daily freak-out about CPP since you started paying into it.

cowofwar posted:

No one in Parliament or the Senate has read or written legislation in decades. Industry figures out what they want, they hire lawyers to write the legislation and then hire lobbyists to target specific members of government to support and introduce the legislation.

cowofwar posted:

Anyone 30-40 years old in Canada had better get their financial poo poo together because their parents on average will not be passing on wealth in contrast with the previous generation. Next two decades will see a considerable contraction of the middle class and probably Canada becoming more like the US in terms of inequality. I expect certain provinces to start dismantling their single payer health care systems soon.

jm20 posted:

eNeMeE posted:

I'd like it to be an actual chamber of sober second thought where things get looked at to see if they're legal and actually do what they say they're supposed to do what effects they're likely to have published where everyone can read the results. Would have cut down on the legal bills for all that unconstitutional legislation that was struck down by the Supreme Court.

Pinterest Mom posted:

Sounds like what you want is to beef up PBO. If what you want is policy analysis, hire staff, don't appoint people give lifetime gold plated salary/pensioned patronage appointments to a legislative body.

Pinterest Mom posted:

Sounds like what you want is to beef up PBO. If what you want is policy analysis, hire staff, don't appoint people to a legislative body.

Kraftwerk posted:

Seems a little extreme doesn't it?

Weird BIAS posted:

I love people who are saying THIS IS DESPICABLE TO BAN FREE SPEECH of noted defamer Ezra Levant.

eNeMeE posted:

I'd like it to be an actual chamber of sober second thought where things get looked at to see if they're legal and actually do what they say they're supposed to do what effects they're likely to have published where everyone can read the results. Would have cut down on the legal bills for all that unconstitutional legislation that was struck down by the Supreme Court.

Chicken posted:

I would be interested in an effort post or a link to an article on why the BCNDP is so awful. (CI saying "Jenny Kwan" doesn't count)

I mean, I know they are. They've been pretty much useless as opposition and failed to win an election they had in the bag. Is it a problem with the MLAs or party leadership (or lack thereof)? Is there no grassroots support? Is the whole thing rotten and we need to burn it down and create a BC Solidare Party? On the surface it appears that BC should be very open to a leftist party that wanted to get rid of the MSP, spend more on transit, spend more on low-income housing, and help lower the cost of living a little. I might have a distorted view of things from spending all my time with hippies in Victoria, and maybe the coalition of wannabe Albertans in the interior and Vancouver suburbanites is bigger, but I think any mildly competent party could have beaten the Liberals last election.

ZShakespeare posted:

Oh please you'd be tripping all over yourselves to scream the loudest if it were the wildrose banning some poo poo like rabble.ca or thetyee

Ikantski posted:

You're telling me that you believe that the government that is selling off 15% of Hydro One a year for 32 days of relief from debt interest payments really cares about the long term finances of Ontarians?

There's a really simple law about deleting government emails and another one about not bribing election candidates, I don't think OLP thought twice about them. I don't freak out about CPP. I freak out about electricity costs. Which is something this government has(had?) almost complete control over and should be focusing on.

It would definitely be smart politics for the OLP to turn the 2018 election into a question of whether pensions are good and all the better for them if the deduction hasn't appeared on people's paycheques yet..

Chicken posted:

I would be interested in an effort post or a link to an article on why the BCNDP is so awful. (CI saying "Jenny Kwan" doesn't count)

I mean, I know they are. They've been pretty much useless as opposition and failed to win an election they had in the bag. Is it a problem with the MLAs or party leadership (or lack thereof)? Is there no grassroots support? Is the whole thing rotten and we need to burn it down and create a BC Solidare Party? On the surface it appears that BC should be very open to a leftist party that wanted to get rid of the MSP, spend more on transit, spend more on low-income housing, and help lower the cost of living a little. I might have a distorted view of things from spending all my time with hippies in Victoria, and maybe the coalition of wannabe Albertans in the interior and Vancouver suburbanites is bigger, but I think any mildly competent party could have beaten the Liberals last election.

ZShakespeare posted:

Oh please you'd be tripping all over yourselves to scream the loudest if it were the wildrose banning some poo poo like rabble.ca or thetyee

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The latest edition of Poland's wSieci (The Network) magazine exposes the Muslim rape epidemic right from the cover and it's anything but politically correct.

The cover shows a pretty girl in a blue dress startled as dark hands try to grab her. The headline reads, “Islamic Rape of Europe.”

According to Breitbart, the magazine features articles titled ‘Does Europe Want to Commit Suicide?’ and ‘The Hell of Europe’.

In the opening article, Aleksandra Rybinska writes, “The people of old Europe after the events of New Year’s Eve in Cologne painfully realised the problems arising from the massive influx of immigrants. The first signs that things were going wrong, however, were there a lot earlier. They were still ignored or were minimised in significance in the name of tolerance and political correctness.”

At a time when people have been arrested for voicing concerns about the mass influx of Syrian refugees in Europe, this magazine and its cover is a refreshing change of pace.

Dreylad posted:

I don't see the connection.

Kafka Esq. posted:

The Rebel's average article length is about 50 words and they just posted this:

ZShakespeare posted:

Oh please you'd be tripping all over yourselves to scream the loudest if it were the wildrose banning some poo poo like rabble.ca or thetyee

Chicken posted:

I would be interested in an effort post or a link to an article on why the BCNDP is so awful. (CI saying "Jenny Kwan" doesn't count)

I mean, I know they are. They've been pretty much useless as opposition and failed to win an election they had in the bag. Is it a problem with the MLAs or party leadership (or lack thereof)? Is there no grassroots support? Is the whole thing rotten and we need to burn it down and create a BC Solidare Party? On the surface it appears that BC should be very open to a leftist party that wanted to get rid of the MSP, spend more on transit, spend more on low-income housing, and help lower the cost of living a little. I might have a distorted view of things from spending all my time with hippies in Victoria, and maybe the coalition of wannabe Albertans in the interior and Vancouver suburbanites is bigger, but I think any mildly competent party could have beaten the Liberals last election.

THC posted:

Nobody would be particularly upset because that would be par for the loving course for Conservatives

Also yeah lmk when either of those websites engages in thinly veiled hate speech or is run by a serial defamer.

Femtosecond posted:

I think it's pretty telling that Gregor Robertson bailed on the party pretty quickly after being elected as a MLA.

Dreylad posted:

Again, you seem to think the Ontario government has direct control over ORPP (or do you? I don't understand the logic of the second sentence), which it will not. This conversation always ends up in the same place, it's too bad.

Pinterest Mom posted:

That's just being a mayor, though. The mayor of the province's largest city can't also be the opposition to the provincial government. John Tory hasn't stopped being a conservative because he's willing to work with the OLP or LPC, Coderre had joint press conferences with the leaders of the NDP and Bloc in the last election, that's just how it goes.

Ikantski posted:

I think you're being disingenuous to suggest it's totally 100% going to be separated from any OLP influence even though all we know is that a) it's being run by one of their senior bureaucrats who has no pension experience and b) it's being designed completely by the OLP who said, and then invoked takey backies, that the money was going to provide capital for Ontario infrastructure.

Hexigrammus posted:

My thinking is that we shouldn't trust future governments (or the ones in power today) not to suddenly "repurpose" these pots of money and leave upcoming payouts underfunded. Attacking a pension plan should be political suicide in the same way as a full frontal attack on universal medicare. I don't think this is the case though with the age bracket that will benefit from these changes. Hopefully they won't get screwed by the Ontario government (instead of getting front, back, and side-loaded by the private sector).