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ShaneB posted:These look really awesome and sometimes I understand why people miss the old frame. Mainly the blue frame because it is sickkkk. The only new frame I genuinely like is the gold frame. The rest were much more distinctive. The old gold frame was lovely imho.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It's almost as if Core Sets were less complicated than The Complicated Set. And that's why they're discontinued. Complication is Good, and Correct. Now excuse me as I try to figure out Chains of Mephistopholes and Sylvan Library after my opponent BSZs me for 3.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:47
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Crystalline is just shroud, but it was also printed 9 years before shroud was a thing. And yeah, then M14 slivers were in a core set. But even core sets are allowed to have some complexity; the slivers just didn't get any of it. Non-sliver rare: {1}, {T}, Discard a card: You gain 4 life. {1}, {T}, Pay 1 life: Put a 0/1 white Goat creature token onto the battlefield. {1}, {T}, Sacrifice a creature: Return target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand. {1}, {T}, Sacrifice an artifact: Draw a card. Sliver rare: Lifelink.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:51
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whydirt posted:Didn't M15 slivers start in design as another creature type and then someone realized that they were basically reinventing slivers, so why not just switch them over? I thought I read that somewhere, but can't recall exactly. I remember that as well. And old frame = best frame.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:52
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:And that's why they're discontinued. Complication is Good, and Correct. BSZ just kills your guys how does that matter 
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From the MTGO Bug Blog: posted:•Cardset | Some spells that return multiple permanents from different zones to players’ hands (such as Rise//Fall or Æther Tradewinds) only return one permanent. Notably, this does not affect any cards in Battle for Zendikar or Oath of the Gatewatch. How does this even happen? Also, apparently Devouring Greed, a critical components for one of the Champions of Kamigawa archetypes (and so important it was included in MM2015 for its Spirits archetype and bumped up a rarity) doesn't function - you sacrifice X spirits and deal 2 damage total. Fun!
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Crystalline is just shroud, but it was also printed 9 years before shroud was a thing. Sliver Goatpost would be horrible, but a middle spot (like people have mentioned) is absolutely fine. The reason that the M14 change kinda bugs me is that stuff like Juzam Sliver (the 2BB 5/5 that has "slivers cost 1 life on upkeep" thing) or Venser's Sliver exist.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:55
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whydirt posted:I know that they changed them in order to simplify board states, but I wish they'd kept slivers buffing both sides as it made them stand out mechanically as a tribe, especially now that all regular lords only buff your side. Lords only buffing your side is also part of why they changed it
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Bread Set Jettison posted:The only new frame I genuinely like is the gold frame. The rest were much more distinctive. The old gold frame was lovely imho. Yeah old gold is bad.
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Feb 17, 2016 23:56
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Entropic posted:Did anyone who wasn't around for the original slivers actually like slivers in M1whatever ? the only thing i liked about them was making a nerd incredibly mad by winning a draft pod (my first and only) by splashing two of the big red ones as a third color because my other two bombs were the big green ones. guy was really mad that i won with 3 color, challenged me to a rematch, and i was 4-0 against him 
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Feb 17, 2016 23:57
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Serperoth posted:Sliver Goatpost would be horrible Bad opinion detected.
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Some people get very upset about 2 color + splash decks (or full on 3+ color) in limited even when the format supports it, it's really weird.
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cheetah7071 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if after a certain number of turns with nothing happening, mtgo goes into "something infinite must have happened" mode, like with LSV's oblivion rings. Restarting the game is the correct action at that point.  Made it to turn 1727 before the game simply restarted. Which is 123-1, but I think that's a coincidence.
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cheetah7071 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if after a certain number of turns with nothing happening, mtgo goes into "something infinite must have happened" mode, like with LSV's oblivion rings. Restarting the game is the correct action at that point. There's a lot of really interesting programming problems that come up in trying to code the rules of Magic. There's an insane number of possible game states you have to take into account. Sadly they have too few underpaid programmers on the job tackling those problems. Lottery of Babylon posted:Crystalline is just shroud, but it was also printed 9 years before shroud was a thing. Trading Post in M13 super-standard was my favorite short-lived pet deck. Trading Posts, Ichor Wellsprings, Wurmcoil Engines...
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JerryLee posted:Bad opinion detected. I'd want it to happen, maybe, but my point was that giving all creatures four different abilities to keep track of would lead to some less-than-fun gameplay. Two would be fine though. Like... Sliver Guildmage.
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Slivers find a portal to the plane of Mercadia and discover the craft of spellshaping. (Spellshaping. Now there's a mechanic that hasn't come back in too long, aside from the obligatory TSP appearance. I'd like to see that back, even though I'd roll my eyes when they gave it an ability word.)
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Feb 18, 2016 00:07
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Sickening posted:Modern is basically unplayable right now unless you are playing Eldrazi. Knowing that this isn't going to get fixed till April is annoying as gently caress. By all accounts, they are doubling down on not emergency banning it. Last night my eldrazi got poo poo on by a bogles deck and some blue/white homebrew control deck. 
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Feb 18, 2016 00:26
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That leaked list on 4chan looks hysterical. So many money cards.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:That leaked list on 4chan looks hysterical. So many money cards.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:That leaked list on 4chan looks hysterical. So many money cards. Is it on /tg/?
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Feb 18, 2016 00:45
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sarmhan posted:Unbelievably fake though. My uncle works for
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suicidesteve posted:Art is subjective but thanks for your worthless input. objectively your posts are garbage Errant Gin Monks posted:That leaked list on 4chan looks hysterical. So many money cards. I want the list to be real just because of the possibility of Lin-Sivvi and a bomb Rebels limited deck
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Hellsau posted:My uncle works for
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Zoness posted:BSZ just kills your guys how does that matter USZ then. I forgot there's a more famous BSZ out there.
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Feb 18, 2016 01:29
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Errant Gin Monks posted:That leaked list on 4chan looks hysterical. So many money cards. Don't make us look at 4chan for fucks sake, post it.
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Feb 18, 2016 01:31
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Yawgmoth posted:FTFY Realtalk Stop That! in BB would be a format-defining card on the order of Bazaar of Baghdad
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Errant Gin Monks posted:That leaked list on 4chan looks hysterical. So many money cards. Spill it girlfriend, fake or not it should be good for a laugh
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The 4chan one was like every money card and cursed scroll which is reserve list. Some magic page on Facebook posted this and it looks way more believable - just imagine how soul crushing it would be to open crop rotation and animate dead as rares: 
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Feb 18, 2016 01:48
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Sigma-X posted:The 4chan one was like every money card and cursed scroll which is reserve list. Look at all those upgraded to mythics. Cavern reprint would actually be awesome.
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Sigma-X posted:The 4chan one was like every money card and cursed scroll which is reserve list. It's probably fake but I'm not sure how much I want it to be. I really want a lot of those cards but woof, some of those rarity scale-ups are rugged. Crop Rotation at rare  Chain Lightning at mythic 
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Sickening posted:Look at all those upgraded to mythics. Cavern reprint would actually be awesome. Chain Lightning is in no way a mythic rare, not in name, effect or cost equity to reprint. Also WotC probably doesn't use google docs for their spoiler lists.
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Everblight posted:Chain Lightning is in no way a mythic rare, not in name, effect or cost equity to reprint. Also WotC probably doesn't use google docs for their spoiler lists. Well out of all the reasons to disbelieve the spoiler, this seems like a pretty weak reason. I am sure whatever way they were leaked didn't come in a nice clean look. Probably was made after the fact. And honestly, not many leaks have been wrong in a while. Still not shocked so many calling them fake.
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Everblight posted:Chain Lightning is in no way a mythic rare, not in name, effect or cost equity to reprint. Also WotC probably doesn't use google docs for their spoiler lists. Price of Progress, Past in flames, Batterskull and Fireblast at rare are also pretty  rarity shiftsEdit: Riftstone portal, #1 feelbad rare. Cactrot fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Feb 18, 2016 |
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*speaking louder and louder to be heard over the deafening roar of reserved list prices spiking* just be glad it's even seeing a reprint YOU INGRATES!!!
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Wasn't Lotus Petal originally a common too? I think I believe this list just because it seems right in line with the last Modern Masters set: some marquee money cards at mythic and rare but on average you'll spend $15 on a pack and open near-bulk rares.
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black potus posted:*speaking louder and louder to be heard over the deafening roar of reserved list prices spiking* just be glad it's even seeing a reprint YOU INGRATES!!! Gangsines tell me: what reserved list cards are Good Ideas to get
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BJPaskoff posted:
Sounds like he was tricked by some rude-rear end vendor in an attempt to eliminate rivals, which is probably even worse.
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End of Life Guy posted:Don't make us look at 4chan for fucks sake, post it. http://imgur.com/YrK8wgE No green mythics and cursed scroll they didn't even try
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Sounds like he was tricked by some rude-rear end vendor in an attempt to eliminate rivals, which is probably even worse. Who didn't see this sort of thing coming once WOTC established the precedent that they go nuclear over spoilers? I mean hopefully they have good enough investigative practices that no innocent folks ever get punished (though given how wide a net got thrown in the judge case, maybe not) but even so, it seems like a great way for poo poo-stirrers to stir poo poo.
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