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St Evan Echoes posted:Between, say, 2004 and 2014, what are the WWE's best top-to-bottom PPV cards? Apart from MiTB 2011, I watched it pretty recently. one night stand 05 and 06, vengeance 05, backlash 09, extreme rules 2012, summerslam 2013, wrestlemania 30
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Great White Hope posted:I decided to look this up, and got kinda disturbed. Minor correction. Barry and Mike are brothers in law, and Abigail and Bray are cousins.
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ayn rand hand job posted:Minor correction. Derp, I thought Barry was Bray/Bo's godfather for some reason. 
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oatgan posted:one night stand 05 and 06, vengeance 05, backlash 09, extreme rules 2012, summerslam 2013, wrestlemania 30 all of these plus wrestlemania 24
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Add No Way Out 09 to that list
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WrestleMania 26 is very good, too. Except for Matt Striker on commentary, gently caress him.
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TL posted:WrestleMania 26 is very good, too. Except for Matt Striker on commentary, gently caress him. I don't know if I could overlook Bret Hart vs Vince enough to call the show very good.
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the only good matches are the last two matches and the first taker/hbk match is better. there's stuff worth watching on it but I wouldn't call it a good show top-to-bottom
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Maybe it's just a personal favorite but I really enjoyed it. MITB, both title matches, Punk-Rey, and HBK-Undertaker are really good.
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Since the start of the Attitude Era, who has had the most WWE/World Heavyweight Title matches without ever being champion (excluding Dark Matches, House Shows and Scramble/Battle Royals/Elimination Chambers)? From looking at ProFightDBI've got Umaga, Barrett and X-Pac with 3. Ambrose has 4 if you count the Fatal Fourway. Does anyone else have more?
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THE RYBACK beats all of those jabronies with five. Payback '13 was 3 stages of Hell vs. Cena Extreme Rules '13 was Last Man Standing vs. Cena Monday Night Raw Jan 7th 2013 was a TLC match vs. Punk Survivor Series '12 was a Triple Threat vs. Cena and Punk Hell in a Cell '12 was Hell in a Cell vs. Punk Tons and tons of live events and dark matches as well. He was in a program chasing the title for a long long time. Memento fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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triplexpac posted:Who else took to wrestling really quickly? Chad Gable is one, he's way better than he should be at this stage of his career. By all accounts Rock was way way better in the ring than he had any business being with his amount of training when he started.
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Thank you for the PPVs everyone. In the end I just rewatched this year's Royal Rumble with the German commentary. I can highly recommend watching WWE without understanding the announce team.
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Memento posted:THE RYBACK beats all of those jabronies with five. Not only did I forget how hard they were pushing him at one point, but also how long ago that was already.
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Memento posted:THE RYBACK beats all of those jabronies with five. Six if you count the Royal Rumble this year 
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I love when they book guys like Ryback in gimmick matches they have no business doing. He can barely work a singles match, and you want him in Three Stages of Hell?
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If you think about it, watching any Ryback match makes it a three stages of hell match
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I'd rather watch Ryback in some dumb garbage match where they walk from planned spot to planned spot than actually trying to put together a decent in-the-ring match.
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While looking at stuff on YouTube, I found a gimmicky Raw from 2010: "Raw Old School." It looks pretty entertaining with all of the old '80s wrestlers around and the throwback graphics being used. ADR had a match with Sgt. Slaughter and other ridiculous poo poo. I think they even did a filter on the video to make it a little grainy (this might just be the quality of the YT recording). Any other gimmicky Raw/Smackdown events like that? Except for truly amazing matches, I find it hard to watch a random old non-PPV show and actually be interested in it, but if they do other weird one-off event nights like this, I'd be into it.
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surf rock posted:While looking at stuff on YouTube, I found a gimmicky Raw from 2010: "Raw Old School." It looks pretty entertaining with all of the old '80s wrestlers around and the throwback graphics being used. ADR had a match with Sgt. Slaughter and other ridiculous poo poo. I think they even did a filter on the video to make it a little grainy (this might just be the quality of the YT recording). They've done several Old School Raws, they are worth checking out. There were also shows like Raw Roulette when they were in Vegas but the gimmick is much less interesting on those. There was a WWE vs ECW special right before ONS 06 too.
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The draft shows were always pretty interesting (if inconsequential in the end).
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ICHIBAHN posted:The draft shows were always pretty interesting (if inconsequential in the end). They definitely got less interesting as time went on though. The last couple were a joke, the brand split barely existed
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ICHIBAHN posted:The draft shows were always pretty interesting (if inconsequential in the end). Was Taker flipping out during the first one really a shoot?
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Remember when Cena was "drafted",wore a Smackdown shirt till the end of that Draft Raw until he was...DRAFTED BACK TO RAW!!!!! few years back? I always laff.
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I always liked Triple H being pissed about getting drafted to SmackDown until Paul Heyman gave him an immediate title shot, and then Eric Bischoff traded like six guys to get Triple H back on Raw.
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The last Old School Raw was cool because Jake the Snake came out and pretended his snake was his dick and proceeded to put his snake dick all over Dean Ambrose while burnt-out CM Punk looked on.
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I remember enjoying a Mania-focused Raw with matches from previous Manias, including US Express vs Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff.
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BodyMassageMachine posted:The last Old School Raw was cool because Jake the Snake came out and pretended his snake was his dick and proceeded to put his snake dick all over Dean Ambrose while burnt-out CM Punk looked on. I've never seen Dean Ambrose happier than when he was covered in snake poo poo
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I was not a huge fan of Ryback, but I could see he had at least some momentum. All interest I had for him and all thought that he might ever win the title waned when he went to a no contest with John Cena in a Last man standing match after killing John Cena so bad he couldn't get up. In a match where that was the stip. They didn't even do a double count, the match was just over all of a sudden, and the only wrestler walking around after it was Ryback. remusclaw fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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FunMerrania posted:Was Taker flipping out during the first one really a shoot? Don't remember sorry
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triplexpac posted:They definitely got less interesting as time went on though. The last couple were a joke, the brand split barely existed With the exception of I think one year, the draft was always heavily Raw-favored too.
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That was also the one where 180 year old batshit insane Jesse Ventura made me sad by still announcing rings around everyone on the current product.
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Thinking back to when Eddie died and instead of really pushing Chavo they focused on Rey. Has there been any other instances of WWE/WCW etc doing anything similar. Where one person should really get a push, but instead they focus on someone else? I guess another instance of what I'm trying to talk about would be where they tried to change the YES chants away from Bryan to Big Show.
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freeranger posted:Thinking back to when Eddie died and instead of really pushing Chavo they focused on Rey. Has there been any other instances of WWE/WCW etc doing anything similar. Where one person should really get a push, but instead they focus on someone else? On one hand you have a star. On the other hand you have Chavo. On one hand there's a dude who can make you a ton of money. On the other hand, you have a guy who spent the first 5 years of his career trying to get some rub from his uncle and failing miserably. On one hand you have a guy who had a lot of programs and worked well with Eddie. On the other hand, you have a guy best known for being the least successful dude in his family at the time of Eddie's death, and that's including the goddamned Gobbledy Gooker and his sexaganarian father
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Yeah but Chavo had a rad theme
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Chavo had to know that once he got saddled with Pepe the fake horse that a WHC run was probably not in his future. Has anybody with one of those inanimate object gimmicks ever really reached the pinnacle? Al Snow, Saturn, Chavo, etc.
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natetimm posted:Chavo had to know that once he got saddled with Pepe the fake horse that a WHC run was probably not in his future. Has anybody with one of those inanimate object gimmicks ever really reached the pinnacle? Al Snow, Saturn, Chavo, etc. There's this Mick Foley guy who did pretty alright
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El Gallinero Gros posted:There's this Mick Foley guy who did pretty alright Al Snow was a real live human being though. We swear. natetimm posted:Chavo had to know that once he got saddled with Pepe the fake horse that a WHC run was probably not in his future. Has anybody with one of those inanimate object gimmicks ever really reached the pinnacle? Al Snow, Saturn, Chavo, etc.  They really buried this guy and his career was pretty much DOA.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:There's this Mick Foley guy who did pretty alright Yeah, but he ended up with that gimmick way later into his career when he was already over and floating near the top of the card anyway. If he got his dumb Socko gimmick before he was Cactus Jack he would probably still be languishing in an undercard somewhere or dead.
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