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Accordion Man posted:4 is far and away the most overrated Silent Hill game. It has some cool ideas but it squanders all of them and its a slog to play. How are you qualifying "overrated"?
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I kind of like Silent Hill 4. I mean, it's not a game I recommend anyone to actually play, but it's got some spooky stuff in it.
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Feb 16, 2016 19:56
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Silent Hill 4 gets a lot of hate, sometimes deservedly so, but it has some genuinely disturbing visuals and (unlike most of the following games) is actually scary. I still hate the twin victim.
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Feb 16, 2016 20:21
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RichterIX posted:It's still better than every Silent Hill game that came after it.
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Feb 16, 2016 21:16
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I didn't really care for Shattered Memories much, but different strokes. I might have a pretty weeb-y affection for the aesthetic of the Team Silent games that stopped me from liking any of the Western ones, which is weird because I don't really feel that way about any other games. I might also just have bad taste because I thought Homecoming was better than Downpour in some ways.
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Feb 16, 2016 21:57
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Accordion Man posted:No, its not and this why I said its overrated. Shattered Memories is leagues better and Origins is solid and doesn't outstay its welcome like 4 does. Shattered Memories mostly made me mad, though. I thought it was dumb.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:38
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Skyscraper posted:Thanks, yeah, that seems pretty reasonable. Maybe fennesz had a chromebook? Yep. My laptop is nearly 8 years old.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:42
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fennesz posted:Yep. My laptop is nearly 8 years old. Ah, ouch. MYSTERY SOLVED, though!
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Feb 16, 2016 23:48
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MinibarMatchman posted:HarshlyCritical is really your best bet for any and all horror game footage, he's the most sane and reasonable. It's actually being published and funded by a third party so imagine they'll talk about at the next big event. Probably later than sooner. I want them to sell VR hard, maybe release a playable teaser just because.
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Feb 17, 2016 00:24
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Butt Ghost posted:I would recommend someone play 4 over SM, personally. Not sure about Origins. It plays a bit better, but it's really unremarkable and it does weird things to Lisa's and Kaufman's characters. Like SM is actually interesting even if you don't necessarily like it because its a precursor to the modern style of adventure games like Walking Dead and Gone Home. 4 is just really boring and forgettable. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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Feb 17, 2016 00:48
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Shattered Memories was a walking simulator before they were cool
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Feb 17, 2016 00:54
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People should just meet half way and play Downpour, cause that was a legit fun game (as long as you skip the combat and the heavy handed....symbolism, i.e. literally freeing a bluebird from a bird cage that represents happiness and hope).
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Feb 17, 2016 01:33
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I still need to play through Downpour because when I got it l I foolishly played it on Normal thinking the combat couldn't be any worse than 4's and Homecoming's which I both went through without too much trouble on Normal. Boy, was I wrong. Downpour's combat and enemy design is godawful.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:41
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Accordion Man posted:I still need to play through Downpour because when I got it l I foolishly played it on Normal thinking the combat couldn't be any worse than 4's and Homecoming's which I both went through without too much trouble on Normal.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:47
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Downpour is pretty much a poor man's The Suffering really. Everyone here should play The Suffering 1.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:49
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Accordion Man posted:Downpour is pretty much a poor man's The Suffering really. This here is some legit advice. I remember being astonished the story and atmosphere could be as good as they were with how awesome the gameplay was.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:51
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Night10194 posted:This here is some legit advice. I remember being astonished the story and atmosphere could be as good as they were with how awesome the gameplay was.
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Feb 17, 2016 02:05
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I love Silent Hill 4, and I can say that having just replayed it. Not going to argue that it's the best or anything, but I put it right up there with 3. It did a lot of great things, it also did poor things like having you repeat areas, but in a way that added to the experience, like the very methodical combat. Also there's this: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3373665/3373665/ which had me looking for any dick chopping metaphors the whole time I was playing the game. That kept it interesting.
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Feb 17, 2016 02:56
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From the Instagram of Norman Reedus: Please stand still, and stay silent.
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Feb 17, 2016 05:21
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Niggurath posted:I'm usually considered dull garbage, but I didn't do any dumb gimmicks for my SH 4 LP: http://lparchive.org/Silent-Hill-4-(Video)/ I think it was a screenshot LP that I read back in the day which is where the confusion came in. I'll have to put this in my "To watch" list as whilst it's fun seeing HC bumble around a semi-familiar game I'd also like to see someone who knows what's what to have a crack at it. Also nthing the love for the original trailer. There were two, I believe. The extended one had some initially bizarre and weird imagery like the mushrooms and wheelchairs which in context were kind of hysterical in their execution. So glad I didn't actually buy it on release. I just hate having to run and dodge between enemies as I try and check all the doors and areas so the ghosts and respawning freaks from 3 really killed my desire to play them.
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Feb 17, 2016 13:36
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Accordion Man posted:Downpour is pretty much a poor man's The Suffering really.
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Feb 17, 2016 14:10
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MinibarMatchman posted:HarshlyCritical is really your best bet for any and all horror game footage, he's the most sane and reasonable. MrKravin's not bad either since he's basically nicer HarshlyCritical who complains less.
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Feb 17, 2016 14:42
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I really hated The Suffering, just felt like endless combat against waves of boring enemies with health pack rooms in between The one thing that really stood out about The Suffering was they had a "Morality" system in place and every now and they you'd meet a guard hiding or smoking a joint or something and the little voice in your head would be all, "Kill the coward" but then you'd have to hack away at him for like, 30 seconds to kill the dude. Why did he have so much health if he was just there to be a prop for the morality system? Are my memories hazy or did the Suffering 2 just re-hash the enemies from 1? I remember being pretty disappointed with the lackluster enemies in 2 but still played it 3 times to see the beasts various iterations... Or was that from 1 as well? Jesus... I don't recall much thinking about it now... Besides the final boss had a dong which was you.
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Feb 17, 2016 14:57
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I was always surprised that SH Homecoming is regarded so badly. Yeah its basically the Dead Space 2 of the SH franchise but I thought the story was pretty solid and personal compared to some of the dreck that was in the other ones
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Feb 17, 2016 15:21
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Oxxidation posted:From the Instagram of Norman Reedus: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Feb 17, 2016 15:24
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Oxxidation posted:From the Instagram of Norman Reedus: Don't play with my heart.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I was always surprised that SH Homecoming is regarded so badly. Yeah its basically the Dead Space 2 of the SH franchise but I thought the story was pretty solid and personal compared to some of the dreck that was in the other ones It was miles ahead of Downpour IMHO. The fact the enemies weren't just "Zombie/Cenobite man with barbed wire" and "BIG zombie man" makes it stand out. Aesthetically too it felt more like a Silent Hill game. That mad labyrinth you had to traverse held gingerly over the void? I loved that. The closest Downpour got was that weird prison room with free floating stairs. Though I barely remember the story of either and I know Homecoming had arbitrary cameos and kinda turned to SAW near the end, but still... Just feels with even a slight tune-up Downpour could have been something much, much better.
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Feb 17, 2016 16:04
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Oxxidation posted:From the Instagram of Norman Reedus: I want to get excited about this, but it's worth remembering that Kojima was tweeting about how much he liked Reedus long before P.T. was a thing. Kojima potentially getting Reedus on board with a game isn't surprising, but it could be literally anything--we have no idea what they're working on yet.
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BlackFrost posted:I want to get excited about this, but it's worth remembering that Kojima was tweeting about how much he liked Reedus long before P.T. was a thing. Kojima potentially getting Reedus on board with a game isn't surprising, but it could be literally anything--we have no idea what they're working on yet. Kojima and del Toro will also be keynote speakers at DICE later this month.
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Feb 17, 2016 16:26
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That image looks a lot like an x-ray of a stylized medieval knight's helm. Not necessarily a medieval game (Final Fantasy had the same aesthetic with a sci-fi setting), but it does seem a bit apart from a normal Silent Hill boss monster design.
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chitoryu12 posted:That image looks a lot like an x-ray of a stylized medieval knight's helm. Not necessarily a medieval game (Final Fantasy had the same aesthetic with a sci-fi setting), but it does seem a bit apart from a normal Silent Hill boss monster design. It's just KojiPro's new logo (also based off the MSF design, apparently). It doesn't have anything to do with a game.
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Feb 17, 2016 16:32
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Accordion Man posted:And this is baffling me to because pretty much everything about SM is better than 4. SM's gameplay is flawed but its sure as hell better than 4's clunky combat and extended escort mission. SM's writing is leagues better too because 4's got cardboard for characters and anything interesting gets wasted. SM plays off the themes of the original game in interesting ways and has actual emotional impact. SM has ambition and does some cool things, while 4 just crashes and burns. Like SM is actually interesting even if you don't necessarily like it because its has cool monster design and an amazing atmosphere. SM is just really dumb and forgettable. In other words, I just liked one game more than the other.
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I am strangely fond of SH4 for reasons I can't explain. There are so many weird, awkward moments with stilted dialogue and a nonplussed Henry that give it this sense of weirdness I actually kind of like. And like...burping lady nurse enemies? Why? A giant twitching lady head that the lady doesn't seem to notice? Okay. It's almost like someone took a Swery game and a SH game and smushed them both together. *walks in on blood-covered mangled woman wheezing and clinging to life* Henry: Are you ok?  It also led to this dumb video, which cracks me up every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lac0cxzEBeY
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Feb 17, 2016 23:22
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ChogsEnhour posted:The one thing that really stood out about The Suffering was they had a "Morality" system in place and every now and they you'd meet a guard hiding or smoking a joint or something and the little voice in your head would be all, "Kill the coward" but then you'd have to hack away at him for like, 30 seconds to kill the dude. Why did he have so much health if he was just there to be a prop for the morality system? Yeah the same enemies returned only instead of having to do with executions they were based on types of problems in the ghetto. The game also restricted the amount of weapons you could carry for no reason at all.
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sh4 trailer: WHY IS EVERYTHING HAPPENING I DO NOT DESERVE HAPPINESS IN MY LIFE sh4: burp
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I played through Layers of Fear today in a couple of short sittings. Definitely one of the spookier games I've played in a while. The environment changing when you turn your back is a cool feature that is done seamlessly and used well, though used a ton. I liked it a lot. I didn't play it when it was in early access, so I'm not sure how much has changed. Aside from a few audio bugs near the end, it was a smooth and atmospheric ride with a grim story.
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Feb 18, 2016 05:16
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Wreath of Barbs posted:I played through Layers of Fear today in a couple of short sittings. Definitely one of the spookier games I've played in a while. The environment changing when you turn your back is a cool feature that is done seamlessly and used well, though used a ton. What's the jump scare counter at?
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Feb 18, 2016 06:24
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Has anyone else played Clock Tower for the SNES/PSX? That game scared the poo poo out of me as a kid. 
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Feb 18, 2016 07:24
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Am I crazy or does the alien's AI actually get worse as Alien: Isolation goes on? I'm about 8 hours in and at the lab and more and more often I see the alien drop down basically on top of me out of a vent only to hang around for a few seconds and jump back in. In the server farm I had it walk straight past me, actually brushing up against me, while I was hacking a door. When the AI isn't being weird the game's pretty fantastic though. I love the aesthetics, the cat and mouse game with the alien hasn't got old yet, and it really feels like a good next step in the Amnesia-style games.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Has anyone else played Clock Tower for the SNES/PSX? That game scared the poo poo out of me as a kid. Clock Tower 1, for being a sprite sidescroller, is actually quite creepy and good. I played it a few years ago with headphones and in the dark and it actually managed to scare me a couple times. Are there any other genuinely scary 2D games? I've played a few indie puzzle games with a creepy atmosphere but nothing that gave me that OH poo poo gently caress feeling.
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