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Jumpingmanjim posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOB5sXvxcg&t=108s Clicked thinking it would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk_MIxu-3q8
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I can't see any particularly compelling reasons for alex jones's continuing freedom
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my last reply in here was the 9000th reply and my 420th of the thread TacticalUrbanHomo posted:I can't see any particularly compelling reasons for alex jones's continuing freedom comedy
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:I'm interested to see how that plays out, because where does your first amendment rights to journalism end, and being found guilty of inciting violence against police and civilians begin? That's why I said "legitimate journalist" which I guess is what the court case will have to decide? I don't know, I assume this has come up in the past and there is some kind of legal definition of what is considered a journalists? I will be interested to see how this ends up, it's been fascinating from the start.
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:I can't see any particularly compelling reasons for alex jones's continuing freedom The funniest part would be the government could straight up arrest Alex Jones for fake charges and no one would believe him.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:The funniest part would be the government could straight up arrest Alex Jones for fake charges and no one would believe him. or they could just arrest him on real charges since he's literally a professional liar
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:The funniest part would be the government could straight up arrest Alex Jones for fake charges and no one would believe him. The boy who cried 'oppression'
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:The only thing that can make this worse is if the Bundys haven't learned some humility and sense and try to be their own lawyers. That said, we haven't even gotten to the fines yet for the destruction of the wildlife refuge, which will probably wipe out any finances or land they might have. These idiots have literally destroyed their own lives and their families as well. Bundy's been subject to tons of fines forever, and his primary income is based on selling non-FDA-compliant beef raised illegally on government land. The other day I asked how come they haven't frozen all his accounts ages ago, and the only answer I can concoct is that he's operating completely on cash transactions, and the cash is in safes surrounded by guards. (A recent court document confirms he sells his nasty beef straight out of freezers on his ranch. And what Bundy beef customer would want a paper trail anyhow?) So, I assume the only reason he has had property at any time in the last 10 years is because he's guarding it with armed force. The question then is whether that'll persist when he's in jail. What if the various militia camps on his land decide to stay put? Driving them out sounds orders of magnitude more dangerous than retaking the MNWR, and it would appear to be the feds initiating the conflict. Might they even continue harassing local BLM workers in the name of whatever symbolic value Burns Park has to the movement? A scary business. McNerd has issued a correction as of 19:04 on Feb 18, 2016 |
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Breaking news from the D&D thread: LaVoy Finnicum was murdered! by ghosts! 
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The only chance they have at this point is probably a Presidential pardon. Which isn't too far off if one of those shitshows running gets in somehow.
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Angela Christine posted:Breaking news from the D&D thread: LaVoy Finnicum was murdered! by ghosts! well they were camping on an old indian burial ground
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Aren't the charges from today all about the 2014 hullabaloo? The Feds seem to take their sweet time so I wouldn't be surprised if the charges for this fresh crop of yahoos takes a while. Of course, some guys will catch charges for both debacles.
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Oregon Occupier Countersues For $666 Billion, Citing 'Works Of The Devil' http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/18/467204403/oregon-occupier-countersues-for-666-billion-citing-works-of-the-devil Six hundred and sixty six billion dollars *raises pinky to corner of mouth.*
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:I can't see any particularly compelling reasons for alex jones's continuing freedom Master Shake needs a steady job since ATHF is off the air? e: poo poo, that's Levin.
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The Sphinxster posted:Aren't the charges from today all about the 2014 hullabaloo? The Feds seem to take their sweet time so I wouldn't be surprised if the charges for this fresh crop of yahoos takes a while. Yes, they are. I think the ACLU is defending Pete for his activity in Burns. The indictment handed down yesterday is for the 2014 standoff.
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Angela Christine posted:Breaking news from the D&D thread: LaVoy Finnicum was murdered! by ghosts! I loving called it Snowglobe of Doom posted:I've never heard of anything bad happening from desecrating an ancient Indian burial ground, I'm sure that things will work out just fine for these guys. Juuuuuust fine and dandy.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:That's why I said "legitimate journalist" which I guess is what the court case will have to decide? I don't know, I assume this has come up in the past and there is some kind of legal definition of what is considered a journalists? Journalists who commit crimes in order to do their job can be arrested and tried just like anyone else. In order for them to be protected by freedom of the press they have to prove that their story served the public good in a way that justifies their crimes.
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McNerd posted:Bundy's been subject to tons of fines forever, and his primary income is based on selling non-FDA-compliant beef raised illegally on government land. The other day I asked how come they haven't frozen all his accounts ages ago, and the only answer I can concoct is that he's operating completely on cash transactions, and the cash is in safes surrounded by guards. (A recent court document confirms he sells his nasty beef straight out of freezers on his ranch. And what Bundy beef customer would want a paper trail anyhow?) He's not guarding it with armed force now. Not to mention that if it came down to it, the government could just wait out the armed force as well. Not like they're going to get anywhere with Bundy on trial. In theory, they could subpoena everybody on the ranch to testify and then arrest them as soon as they're away from the land. It's not like these sovcits are that smart.
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[trigger warning: gawker] Hilarious lawsuit, claiming $666,666,666,666.66 in damages because devil   Apparently the IMF (for some reason) can repossess the entire northwest territories because we aren't paying our debts because reasons!
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VikingSkull posted:if they have proof he was a ringleader then gently caress him USA v. Bundys, Payne, and Santilli posted:SANTILLI was a leader and organizer of the conspiracy who, among other things: recruited Followers using the internet and other facilities in interstate commerce; led an assault on federal officers; threatened federal law enforcement officers; and participated in the extortion of federal law enforcement officers.
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Rebel Blob posted:Santilli's rear end belongs to the Feds, from the Indictment: loooooooooooool e- ooooh that's right, he was one of the chucklefucks that ran that roadblock in Nevada, I forgot he was at that incident
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Rebel Blob posted:Santilli's rear end belongs to the Feds, from the Indictment: That is just the indictment from the Nevada standoff. He has another one coming his way from the poo poo he pulled in Oregon.
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McNerd posted:Bundy's been subject to tons of fines forever, and his primary income is based on selling non-FDA-compliant beef raised illegally on government land. The other day I asked how come they haven't frozen all his accounts ages ago, and the only answer I can concoct is that he's operating completely on cash transactions, and the cash is in safes surrounded by guards. (A recent court document confirms he sells his nasty beef straight out of freezers on his ranch. And what Bundy beef customer would want a paper trail anyhow?) The stuff about his cows being all kids of messed up is interesting. There's a PBS Nature episode titled Holy Cow about humanity's relationship with cows. Its thesis is that cows are really the only animal that made sense for domestication by early humans, largely because they're curious and docile, along with a bunch of other factors. So is Cliven such a fuckup that he wrecked the peaceful nature of an animal we've been codependent with for thousands of years?
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:[trigger warning: gawker] Oh my god. I'm getting a semi just thinking about what a circus the trials are going to be. I bet one of them calls God as a witness.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:[trigger warning: gawker] The utterly insane poo poo these people vomit up as "truth" is starting to make me wonder if they have any understanding of any aspect of reality whatsoever. Like gravity, or tableware, or yarn. Do they understand yarn?
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Loden Taylor posted:The utterly insane poo poo these people vomit up as "truth" is starting to make me wonder if they have any understanding of any aspect of reality whatsoever. Like gravity, or tableware, or yarn. Do they understand yarn? Uhh I think you mean the devil's hairballs 
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A Winner is Jew posted:That is just the indictment from the Nevada standoff. Ammon and Ryan too. They're going to get six hundred and sixty six years.
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theultimo posted:It's 616 anyway she hosed up Not according to any 4 hours long youtube video I ever claim to have watched.
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I hope everyone caught the note at the top. Paraphrased from memory, "The Court has directed this document be filed for the record, but otherwise we're just ignoring it. Please talk to your lawyer about how to correctly present whichever parts of this are actually supposed to be legal defenses." The sad thing is, I found Cox's notice bizarrely coherent for a sovcit. There are entire sentences and maybe paragraphs that I could be fooled into thinking were written by an actual lawyer. And it was better received than for instance this Canadian classic: Meads v Meads posted:[26] Mr. Meads stated that his birth certificate has an associated bond with large amounts of money that could easily discharge in full the claims advanced by Ms. Meads. He said this Court could order that payment. He then attempted to provide me with an envelope, presumably containing documents. Mr. Meads said the contents of the envelope had been “filed internationally”: a UCC filing, a Canadian filing, a commercial security agreement, an identity bond, “actual and constructive notices”, hold harmless and identity agreements, non-negotiable security agreements, an affidavit of his status, a copyright and trade-mark of his name contract, and definitions of the words used in those documents. “UCC” means the “Uniform Commercial Code”, which is U.S. commercial legislation. McNerd has issued a correction as of 23:57 on Feb 18, 2016 |
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Since I'm on a Deaddpool kick after the movie I started reading some of the newer comics. They're not good but this part from a 2015 issue made me chuckle.   Should have sent Pool to Oregon.
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McNerd posted:I hope everyone caught the note at the top. Paraphrased from memory, "The Court has directed this document be filed for the record, but otherwise we're just ignoring it. Please talk to your lawyer about how to correctly present whichever parts of this are actually supposed to be legal defenses." I feel so bad for her lawyer, who probably spends so much time trying to explain reality, only to have to give up and just let her do whatever. quote:Tiffany Harris, Cox's court-appointed attorney, declined comment on the counter claim. This is my favorite part: quote:In her complaint, Cox says she'll ask jurors who hear her case to bring criminal and civil charges instead against all of the Oregon State Bar members and public employees involved in the "persecution, prosecutorial misconduct and ineffective (counsel)" that resulted in the extended prison time for Burns-area ranchers Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son, Steve Hammond. That's right, you can totally just ask your jurors to bring charges against unrelated people. Everyone knows that juries don't have to actually bring a verdict on the case they're hearing but can bring whatever verdict they want on whoever they want.
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VikingSkull posted:my last reply in here was the 9000th reply and my 420th of the thread should of retired the account.
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