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Puntification posted:I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I heard the word gaga and it wasn't about the pop star or the queen song. It is about her. It's about Bowie's son making fun of the artist by referring to her name's dictionary definition, and the Graun writer is discussing the slight on the mentally ill he was doing in the process.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:18
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thespaceinvader posted:private members' bill Oh god, this is definitely going through. That's why burkas are banned
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Feb 18, 2016 22:20
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Well, specifically she's going on a little thought piece about how casually we'd say "looks like the dementia's setting in early!" if someone forgets what they were talking about, whereas you wouldn't say "hope it's not cancer!" if someone complains about indigestion.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:20
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Green Wing posted:Christopher Chope
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Feb 18, 2016 22:22
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Goons, it will soon be Question Time.quote:David Dimbleby presents from Stratford-upon-Avon. Panellists include Conservative international development secretary Justine Greening, Labour's shadow energy secretary Lisa Nandy, the SNP's John Nicolson, broadcaster June Sarpong and businessman and former Dragon Theo Paphitis. Only one Tory bastard on the panel! Unless her off T4 is one too. Come join us in #ukgoons on synirc.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:23
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Oh god, this is definitely going through. That's why burkas are banned Every time I see an article about how a PMB exists and will definitely become law I have to stop myself sending a horrible little pedantic email, but I didn't manage to stop myself when there were articles about how the Ten Minute Rule motion that gave leave to bring in a bill about an English National Anthem meant that we would definitely have one. It wasn't even a piddling Friday second reading debate urrrrgh we need civics lessons in schools,
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Feb 18, 2016 22:24
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Tesseraction posted:It is about her. It's about Bowie's son making fun of the artist by referring to her name's dictionary definition, and the Graun writer is discussing the slight on the mentally ill he was doing in the process. Wait, it's an actual headline? I thought TinTower had just used some sort of wacky mock Grauniad headline generator app & had a hearty chuckle to myself. Because while yes, I do feel that more needs to be done to reduce stigmatisation of mental illness, I don't think the use of a word in a pun on some recording artists name is doing all that much to stoke up discrimination towards the mentally ill. Especially considering nobody has used the word gaga as a slur for the mentally ill in decades.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:32
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Tesseraction posted:Well, specifically she's going on a little thought piece about how casually we'd say "looks like the dementia's setting in early!" if someone forgets what they were talking about, whereas you wouldn't say "hope it's not cancer!" if someone complains about indigestion. I always kind of figured that was because we'll all probably get dementia so might as well laugh about it.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:32
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forkboy84 posted:Wait, it's an actual headline? I thought TinTower had just used some sort of wacky mock Grauniad headline generator app & had a hearty chuckle to myself. Because while yes, I do feel that more needs to be done to reduce stigmatisation of mental illness, I don't think the use of a word in a pun on some recording artists name is doing all that much to stoke up discrimination towards the mentally ill. Especially considering nobody has used the word gaga as a slur for the mentally ill in decades. Eh, the article's not awful. Remember that the Graun writers don't get to pick their headlines unless there's a reason (e.g. Stewart Lee's comparison of him and Corbyn to Jesus, which in the article he hopes isn't quoted in the headline out of context) Here it is http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/18/gaga-david-bowie-ill-disenfranchised-dementia
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Feb 18, 2016 22:34
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The Abortion Act 1967 started off as a Private Member's Bill, oddly enough.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:46
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Tesseraction posted:It is about her. It's about Bowie's son making fun of the artist by referring to her name's dictionary definition, and the Graun writer is discussing the slight on the mentally ill he was doing in the process. Must remember to do this in future.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:47
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Well I like doing the run downs of the guests soo..... Justine Greening. Was one Secretary for Transport but got reshuffled probably because she opposed a Heathrow Third Runway. She likes to appeal to the working class in the most cringe inducingly awful ways. quote:"How can Britain's corporate world do a systemically better job of overall consistently pulling in and then pulling through the talent of young people we have who start as rough diamonds, but can be immensely successful if they get the right opportunities if they are spotted and then developed."  Expect her to be full STRONG ECONOMY when we're not on questions about the loving EU. Actually she'll probably be STRONG ECONOMY on that too. Lisa Nandy Sometimes suggested as a possible candidate to challenge Jeremy Corbyn and since she's only 36 this kind of shows how hosed they are at ever challenging Jeremy Corbyn right now. She voted against air strikes and has done a pretty good job as Energy Secretary. I dunno, nobody ever writes anything about her. She could be a wizard for all I know. John Nicolson SNP spokesperson on Culture, Media and Sport. Openly gay and thankfully also not a massive dick. Doing us proud John, keep up the not being a massive dick, it helps. June Sarpong Launched the In Campaign for the EU. Yeah if you're as sick of the EU debate as I am already, prepare for a Question Time from hell. Also a presenter on Loose Women and I have literally never seen her until now so again, possible wizard. Theo Phaphitis Immigrant business man and thus obviously supportive of the EU. Right? Right? Nope. He wants out because gently caress you got mine. It's going to be an EU episode, come join us and bask in our misery.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:49
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Dabir posted:Must remember to do this in future. Hm, how do you mean? Start insulting the mentally ill?
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Feb 18, 2016 22:55
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I'm not against Britain leveling up, but as with a written constitution, I would never trust the Tories to spend our skill points wisely.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:55
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crispix posted:Only one Tory bastard on the panel! Unless her off T4 is one too. Come join us in #ukgoons on synirc. Fans posted:Also a presenter on Loose Women and I have literally never seen her until now so again, possible wizard.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:56
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Tesseraction posted:Hm, how do you mean? Start insulting the mentally ill? No, the other one. E: I quoted the wrong post somehow, meant to quote your next one. Tesseraction posted:Well, specifically she's going on a little thought piece about how casually we'd say "looks like the dementia's setting in early!" if someone forgets what they were talking about, whereas you wouldn't say "hope it's not cancer!" if someone complains about indigestion.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:58
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Ahhh, I was wondering.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:59
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Green Wing posted:Seriously, don't just post random Private Member's Bills and say "Look at what they are doing!" else you will be either very frightened or very disappointed a great deal. Yeah, except it's getting a second reading next week hth. http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/workingtimedirectivelimitation.html I'm well aware how small-scale and unlikely to succeed PMBs are. But that doesn't stop it being a horrible and lovely thing to do, not to mention a piece of deeply suspect timing for the second reading.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:08
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Fans posted:Lisa Nandy Sometimes suggested as a possible candidate to challenge Jeremy Corbyn and since she's only 36 this kind of shows how hosed they are at ever challenging Jeremy Corbyn right now. She voted against air strikes and has done a pretty good job as Energy Secretary. I dunno, nobody ever writes anything about her. She could be a wizard for all I know. Sort of right but sort of not. She was originally suggested as the left's candidate for the election last summer, but I think she was pregnant at the time or had just given birth, forget the exact details. Basically the timing wasn't right for her. But I don't think she's been suggested by anyone (serious) as a challenger to Corbyn. She's somewhere to the right of Corbyn and left of Burnham, as if that narrows it down much. And definitely not a wizard. Her dad is an Indian Marxist academic however.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:12
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Guavanaut posted:Isn't Loose Women tabloid garbage for the screen? I've never watched it and only hear about it when they've said something idiotic about trans people or the unemployed so it might be 100% communist propaganda every other second, but I somehow doubt it. Loose Women is basically a gameshow where you get points for having the most uninformed opinion.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:14
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This EU mess is hilarious to me, despite being a huge mess, because I can't help but imagine David Cameron as someone who actually believed he was a master statesman who would walk out of this with an easy victory Like, why is he even doing this? I really can't see what he stands to gain versus the potential risk.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:19
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J_RBG posted:This EU mess is hilarious to me, despite being a huge mess, because I can't help but imagine David Cameron as someone who actually believed he was a master statesman who would walk out of this with an easy victory Cameron doesn't really care about international stuff so probably had a bit of the Dunning Kruger going on as to how influential he was/could be.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:22
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well he made the pledge because he wanted to win an election, and there would probably have been open rebellion if he hadn't gone through with the referendum once promised. then he decided to try and leverage the situation he himself had created for his own electoral success to extract concessions from europe, after making sure that everyone that matters in europe really hates him because of his myopic focus on domestic affairs i mean it could've been elegant, if britain's hand here were as strong as dave thinks it is
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Feb 18, 2016 23:24
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thespaceinvader posted:Yeah, except it's getting a second reading next week hth. http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/workingtimedirectivelimitation.html Apparently it's fifteenth on the bill so highly unlikely to receive that reading much as it's on the schedule so colour my face red. However, I wrote an email to my MP about it an hour or so ago, and he responded to tell me that just now. Service, I guess!
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Feb 18, 2016 23:25
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Lisa Nandy is an absolute babe, tbh.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:30
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MikeCrotch posted:Loose Women is basically a gameshow where you get points for having the most uninformed opinion. Yeah it's the most boring program in the world. They have minor celebrities on for interviews and otherwise discuss random topics (political and otherwise). The presenters are has-beens selected for how relatable they are to middle-aged housewives, so they don't know anything of relevance to any political matter they discuss. Watching it is like sitting next to a couple of idiots in a pub while they start having a debate based purely on "facts" they heard third-hand from a work colleague and what they think is "common sense". When I was doing A-levels I often walked home during free periods and watched daytime TV. Jezza Kyle, Bargain Hunt, Flog It! and any children's program were mainstays of my week but I could not put up with Loose Women for more than 5 minutes.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:44
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Young males don't like a tv show made by mature women for mature women? Hold the front page.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:49
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Pissflaps posted:Young males don't like a tv show made by mature women for mature women? Hold the front page. Yeah, I'm sure if you're an older woman it has a lot that's relevant and interesting. Then again I've never watched it.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:52
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Pissflaps posted:Young males don't like a tv show made by mature women for mature women? Hold the front page. Holy poo poo, a pissflaps post I agree with.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:52
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One or more goons are mature women.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:58
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MikeCrotch posted:a gameshow where you get points for having the most uninformed opinion. Recruiting agency for the Tories then.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:59
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Pissflaps posted:Young males don't like a tv show made by mature women for mature women? Hold the front page. It pays Janet Street-Porter. That alone is reason for derision, let alone basically being Mail/Sun/Heat telly. But, if it keeps middle aged people from aimlessly meandering along at lunch then it serves my purposes too.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:00
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Pissflaps posted:Young males don't like a tv show made by mature women for mature women? Hold the front page. I dunno, tv shows about mature women but aimed at young males seems like something Richard Desmond would invest in.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:05
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Surely Loose Women can only be a palate cleanser after subjecting yourself to the cocaine fuelled aggression/leching of Jeremy Kyle
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Feb 19, 2016 01:28
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V. Illych L. posted:well he made the pledge because he wanted to win an election, and there would probably have been open rebellion if he hadn't gone through with the referendum once promised. then he decided to try and leverage the situation he himself had created for his own electoral success to extract concessions from europe, after making sure that everyone that matters in europe really hates him because of his myopic focus on domestic affairs All signs indicate that the current kerfuffle in Brussels is being heavily stage-managed so that Cameron can get a bunch of largely meaningless pre-arranged concessions that he heroically eked out from a bunch of tense negotiations that totally weren't being played up for the press by all involved, honest. For instance, one thing he's been pushing for is a British exemption from the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union... which we already got in the lead-up to the Lisbon Treaty back in 2007.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:37
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The Charter contains rights and freedoms under six titles: Dignity, Freedoms, Equality, Solidarity, Citizens' Rights, and Justice. Well those all sound like terrible things that we want no part of. What's the point of even staying if the UK is going to forcibly opt out of all the possibly useful bits and only wants in for the larger flow of capital and tax loopholes?
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Feb 19, 2016 01:51
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Guavanaut posted:The Charter contains rights and freedoms under six titles: Dignity, Freedoms, Equality, Solidarity, Citizens' Rights, and Justice. Well those all sound like terrible things that we want no part of. What's the point of even staying if the UK is going to forcibly opt out of all the possibly useful bits and only wants in for the larger flow of capital and tax loopholes? To be honest that's probably corbyns position, despite him apparently being behind staying in. The Telegraph actually pointed out that he's in a reasonably good position where he can claim victory if we stay but also capitalise on the Tory implosion if we leave.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:58
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J_RBG posted:This EU mess is hilarious to me, despite being a huge mess, because I can't help but imagine David Cameron as someone who actually believed he was a master statesman who would walk out of this with an easy victory I, for one, am glad that David Cameron is doing his best to push back the EU Tyranny and help Hard Working Families Who Are Just Trying To Get On by trying to get an opt-out from EU banking regulation. Think of all the poor families whose Economic Security is Threatened because the EU decided banker bonuses should be restricted to 2x salary instead of unregulated.
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thespaceinvader posted:Apparently it's fifteenth on the bill so highly unlikely to receive that reading much as it's on the schedule so colour my face red. Also, being on the order paper for a second reading doesn't mean it will /get/ a second reading, even if it's first on the Order Paper. It's the debate, not the approval. I work very closely with the Commons, I could do an effortpost about Private Members' Bills if people like.
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