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HookShot posted:It's $85/month in Vancouver. Not everywhere. Here it's $65. In the Central Fraser Valley (Mission/Abbotsford) it's $52, meaning that they pay an extra $45 a year now over people who just buy a normal bus pass. In Duncan it's $48. The regular monthly price is lower than what disabled people are being charged. Right, but people leaving in Mission/Abbotsford won't continue to pay the extra $45/year because they'll switch to buying passes direct from transit. Low-income seniors still qualify for the BC Bus Pass having to pay only the $45/yr admin fee. People with PWD designation who are also low-income seniors will still qualify for that. People with PWD designation will never be forced to pay more than the general public, they will pay the same or less. Your argument doesn't work because, by the logic it uses, any group who does not receive the full benefit of the BC Bus Pass is being discriminated against (which is obviously stupid). That being said, it's still a lovely move.
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Panas posted:This would never happen. So rag on human rights tribunals all you want, but this idea is pure fantasy. So is the NDP ever winning an election and yet this thread exists.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:10
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Apparently anything to do with the RCMP is bizarro world, even their training schools. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-canadian-police-college-review-1.3453903 article posted:Good friends, the two men were reportedly fond of not only posing completely nude on each other's desks in a purported effort to shock each other but also allegedly simulated oral sex in the office.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:04
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I'm a dirty slutty human being and I just don't understand why these guys can't keep their sexual urges out of the workplace.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:16
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PT6A posted:I mean, I suppose you could argue Dion wasn't bad if you have a thing for wussy little Frenchmen, but I certainly do not.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:22
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If we're going to say Paul Dewar can't be PM because of his French skills, I can understand why Dion got shut down. Classic, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrliDQs1Jps
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Feb 19, 2016 03:35
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I don't even know who the premier of Manitoba is lol and I don't give a fuuuuuuck
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Feb 19, 2016 03:40
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Cultural Imperial posted:I don't even know who the premier of Manitoba is lol Manitobians sure do and will stop at the mention of his name to tell how slimy he is for doing the 1% PST increase without asking first
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Feb 19, 2016 03:47
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And then they'll tell you that because of that 1% they're going to vote in a conservative religious nutjob who will then dismantle Manitoba Hydro, Manitoba Public Insurance, the LC and pretty much everything else. Then they'll whine about how much power insurance and booze are and why all these businesses who's only incentive was dirt cheap power finally decide to start packing up and heading to Mexico.
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Feb 19, 2016 04:08
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Ikantski posted:If we're going to say Paul Dewar can't be PM because of his French skills, I can understand why Dion got shut down. That was a dumb question anyway. Dion tries to answer the question that should have been asked, in two forms.
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Feb 19, 2016 04:38
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Feb 19, 2016 05:11
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Neil MacDonald posted:Dion denounced the Conservatives' opposition day motion — which would "condemn any and all attempts by Canadian organizations, groups or individuals to promote the BDS movement, both here at home and abroad" — as just more "politics of division." Liberals Gonna Lib
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Feb 19, 2016 05:20
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This dude is proud of how many people need housing assistance?
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Feb 19, 2016 05:20
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Feb 19, 2016 05:26
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Nine of Eight posted:Seriously? Wussy little Frenchmen? Dion is probably the least lovely leader the liberals have and will pick for a decade in either direction. Lol, are you loving kidding me? I'd rather have Prime Minister Beaker. We'd look more dignified on the world stage for it.
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Feb 19, 2016 05:37
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PT6A posted:Lol, are you loving kidding me? I'd rather have Prime Minister Beaker. We'd look more dignified on the world stage for it. Man you really judge politicians on how they look don't you. First the Alberta health minister, now this. I'm going to stick to judging politicians based on words and deeds thanks.
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Feb 19, 2016 05:42
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Man you really judge politicians on how they look don't you. First the Alberta health minister, now this. No, I judge them on how they behave, which is completely reasonable. Yes, I insist they have a presence. That's not an issue of political affiliation, though; Stockwell Day was every bit as much of a poo poo leader as Dion, and at least Lenin and Castro have some loving charisma. I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
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Can you imagine the insane nightmare that would be the court backlog? The benefit of a hrc is they have the ability to shut down a case fairly easily if it is frivolous. That poo poo doesn't easily fly in a court. It would lead to preliminary matters, a plethora of appeals, and generally a totally shitted up court system. It also ignores the fact that it would likely bring in rules of court which are an entirely different beast than administrative panels deal with. The idea of replacing a hrc with the court is an insanely poor idea, even on paper, for the mild benefit. Especially when there is the option to appeal administrative decisions to a court if things were really that badly decided.
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PT6A posted:No, I judge them on how they behave, which is completely reasonable. Yes, I insist they have a presence. That's not an issue of political affiliation, though; Stockwell Day was every bit as much of a poo poo leader as Dion, and at least Lenin and Castro have some loving charisma. I don't think I'm being unreasonable. You're drunk PT6A. Stop posting.
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gently caress rich coleman fuuuuuuuuck this province fucucuuu
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Stephen Harper is a strong contender for worst prime minister in Canadian history (though I think he's probably only 2nd or 3rd), and voting was a super obvious bad decisions every election. As bad as the other choices were, Harper was worse and it'll take decades to undo the damage he's done to this country. Especially with Libs libbing. I don't think you're a bad person PT6A, but voting for Harper is most likely the worst thing you've done in your life. Certainly one of the stupidest.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Stephen Harper is a strong contender for worst prime minister in Canadian history (though I think he's probably only 2nd or 3rd), and voting was a super obvious bad decisions every election. As bad as the other choices were, Harper was worse and it'll take decades to undo the damage he's done to this country. Especially with Libs libbing. He man have been a terrible PM, but he looked great doing it! PT6A you voted for Trudeau last time around right? Were you lost in his dreamy eyes, or was it his fantastic hair that won you over?
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PT6A posted:No, I judge them on how they behave, which is completely reasonable. Yes, I insist they have a presence. That's not an issue of political affiliation, though; Stockwell Day was every bit as much of a poo poo leader as Dion, and at least Lenin and Castro have some loving charisma. I don't think I'm being unreasonable. Really though? You voted twice for the most aspergers ridden, uncharismatic, tantrum-having robot of a PM and it was Dion's lack of masculinity/presence that bothered you? At least be consistent in your petty voting justifications. The worst part is, for me to call you out on this is because when people spent hours jerking off on Harper's persona, I absolutely thought it was trivial because for me my position on Harper had nothing to do with him being an autistic WASP. During that time I never recalled you calling out Harper on that either. Melian Dialogue fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Stop whining. Don't be a wuss. Sunny ways, my friends, sunny ways.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Stephen Harper is a strong contender for worst prime minister in Canadian history (though I think he's probably only 2nd or 3rd), and voting was a super obvious bad decisions every election. As bad as the other choices were, Harper was worse and it'll take decades to undo the damage he's done to this country. Especially with Libs libbing. I actually think in 10-15 years, Harper's going to be remembered as a relatively middling prime minister. He didn't break any big promises, no big scandals, didn't outlaw gay abortions or anything too crazy. If there's a housing crash, it'll happen under Trudeau but Harper actually tightened CHMC rules quite a bit. It won't be remembered as Harper's fault that oil prices went low. I doubt there's going to be a ton of people mad at him that he didn't personally solve diversifying our economy or why Canada is so bad at innovating. He wasn't great. Wasn't that bad. Generally did what he said he was going to do and kept the seat warm until Trudeau could come in and guide us home. 4.5/10, glad he's gone, don't regret voting for him a few times.
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Ikantski posted:If there's a housing crash, it'll happen under Trudeau but Harper actually tightened CHMC rules quite a bit. Uhh? http://www.fin.gc.ca/n08/data/08-051_1-eng.asp CMHC 2007 posted:Longer amortization periods (from 25 years up to 40 years).
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Ikantski posted:He didn't break any big promises, The poo poo he promised to do was ostensibly awful. His last three years were one continuous scandal. This is reminiscent of how the BCNDP lost power. Perhaps the silver lining on his power hungry control centralization was keeping a lid on the crazies in his party. Ha ha ha like gently caress he did anything significant. This is ignoring that he created the problem in the first place. His job as PM of a sitting government *was* in fact to do things like personally solve diversifying our economy or find people who could. Your right he was awful. Your right he was awful. The bigger problem was all the poo poo he did besides what he said he would do.
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Harper will likely be remembered for keeping the lid on social conservatives and uniting the right into the modern Conservative Party. Other than that I don't think he did anything that significant. Historians might find the weird way that he lost the last election by running on nothing and lashing out against Muslims interesting but I'm not sure.
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PT6A posted:No, I judge them on how they behave, which is completely reasonable. Yes, I insist they have a presence. That's not an issue of political affiliation, though; Stockwell Day was every bit as much of a poo poo leader as Dion, and at least Lenin and Castro have some loving charisma. I don't think I'm being unreasonable. You may need to reevaluate the kind of qualities you're looking for in a leader if your complaint about a given person is that they aren't manly enough.
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Sounds a bit like David Fromm on The Sunday Edition last weekend suggesting that the reason Canada rode through 2008 relatively well was due to good banking regulations and Harper's management thereof. Completely and utterly ignoring the fact that when the Liberal government of the day didn't follow the U.S. lead in de-regulating banks Harper had a meltdown. But I guess who better to blue-pen recent conservative history than Fromm?
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Yeah, he loosened amortization periods but brought them back down to 25 again in 2012 along with a bunch of other tightenings, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Mortgage_and_Housing_Corporation#Recent_developments In 15 years, I'm thinking people aren't going to look at what he did once, you'll look at what he changed between the start and finish of his being prime minister. It's absolutely fair to say he didn't tighten CHMC rules enough especially with how low they dropped interest rates but I don't think people are going to hate him for that in 15 years. ductonius posted:His job as PM of a sitting government *was* in fact to do things like personally solve diversifying our economy or find people who could. Maybe but no previous prime ministers solved that problem either. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that I don't think that people who are 25 years old now are going to resent Harper strongly for that reason when they're 40. Being bad at innovating isn't a new problem for us unfortunately. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/canadas-innovation-malaise-the-cures-in-our-culture/article1376517/ http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/details/innovation.aspx
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Here's a hot tip y'all: Make ~85% of your income in a year in Québec, get the taxes withheld at the Québec rate (16% is the lowest), and move to BC before the end of the year (5.06% tax rate until 38k!) and get your entire income for the year taxed at BC's rate for a big refund.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:You're drunk PT6A. Stop posting. I'm not, actually. Melian Dialogue posted:Really though? You voted twice for the most aspergers ridden, uncharismatic, tantrum-having robot of a PM and it was Dion's lack of masculinity/presence that bothered you? At least be consistent in your petty voting justifications. The worst part is, for me to call you out on this is because when people spent hours jerking off on Harper's persona, I absolutely thought it was trivial because for me my position on Harper had nothing to do with him being an autistic WASP. During that time I never recalled you calling out Harper on that either. I don't care for Harper at all. That's how deeply unappealing I find Dion, to say that he's worse. I'd rather vote for Jean Chretien's mummified corpse from 1000 years in the future. Much like Naheed Nenshi, he just makes my skin crawl in some unquantifiable way (though I'd take Dion every time over Nenshi). I mean, if you're going to be a progressive and/or a whiny hippie, be a cool, angry progressive like Bernie Sanders, or a chill guy like Jack Layton was, or to add some diversity to the mix, an awesome, charismatic revolutionary like Cornel West -- he makes me forget I hate both Christians and socialism, at least temporarily. Dion has no such charm. sadly; he makes Jeb Bush look high-energy and passionate.
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quote:Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall rejects Ottawa’s carbon pricing plan Pretty interesting. I'm not sure how a national carbon tax would work, and what would happen if a province opted out. Could the Feds have their own tax that they'd remit to provinces of the province had an equal or greater tax? That'd be a good way to encourage a province to have their own carbon tax. Otherwise the money would go to the Feds.
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Eej posted:You may need to reevaluate the kind of qualities you're looking for in a leader if your complaint about a given person is that they aren't manly enough. I don't think you have to be manly/masculine to be a good leader, at all. There have been any number of effective female leaders throughout history, some of whom I agree with policy-wise, and others not. Angela Merkel is more feminine than Dion -- to wit: she's a woman -- yet she's a far more commanding personality, and I would much prefer her as a leader.
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Femtosecond posted:Pretty interesting. I'm not sure how a national carbon tax would work, and what would happen if a province opted out. Could the Feds have their own tax that they'd remit to provinces of the province had an equal or greater tax? That'd be a good way to encourage a province to have their own carbon tax. Otherwise the money would go to the Feds. Sure, that's an administrative issue. If the feds and provinces agree on the tax base, you could have a joint collection like you have with the HST or QST/GST where one level of government collects for both and just sends whatever share of the money over to the other.
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Feb 19, 2016 07:07
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As a person on PWD the new bus pass fee is worrying. Thank you guys for bringing it up.
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The best thing I can say about Harper is that he wasn't as bad as Jean Charest.
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PT6A posted:I'm not, actually. Again, explain to me how on the one hand you can rant and rave over the lack of Dion's charm, yet not make a single comment on Harper's robot nerd limp-wristed accountant persona. Its completely hypocritical, when compared to Harper, Dion comes off like loving JFK. My criticism of you is directly challenging your ability to assess what even constitutes charisma, since in none of your rants about awful personalities have you once mentioned Harper. At best, Harper comes off as awkward dad, not the leader of a nation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sm8z-479yk Not that it should matter, but if the hill you want to die on is backing up your ability to 'feel out' what makes a good persona for a leader, I have yet to hear anything inspiring or worthy that Harper has said. I mean, look at his speech post-Ottawa attack where loving Parliament was attacked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gc1BiEd7ig skip to 2:15, sounds like him congratulating his staff on an all-nighter, not the wake of a terrorist attack on loving Parliament. No emotion, no anger, nothing. Limp-wristed and pathetic. Now my point isnt to somehow support this stupid kind of analysis of politicians, but rather highlight the ridiculous hypocrasy on the rightwing when their best leader in awhile is a fat accountant and they trot out the Dion-teacher, and Trudeau-gay tropes I mean poo poo, look at this video of Dion supporting Ukrainian diaspora and government against what is going on in the Donbass. It actually has passion in it, as if he was personally angered by Sergei Ivanov's comments about Ukrainian-Canadians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6xBkrn57RU Look at a similar topic; Harpers speech to the Royal Canadian Navy's deployment to the black sea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI7pznUglAc His speech at 2:00 doesnt sound like a leader deploying military forces as a show of strength and solidarity but more like a kid's model UN speech ("these things must not be allowed to stand" sounds like he is respectfully correcting an employee at a Yoga-cult store). I mean, this was considered a "blunt" speech shows you the low standards Harper had in his persona and leadership. 'Blunt' my rear end Melian Dialogue fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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I understand voting for Stephen Harper the first time. After all, every politician is a fresh face andd isn't hounded by corruption and scandal at some point in their career. Beyond that, you're on your own for your rationalizations.
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