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Droids suffer , feel pain, and can communicate in human language. That's pretty human.
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kiimo posted:Big Luke must be huge then. Big Luke's headless body is decomposing in a cave on Dagobah.
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Yeah anyone who doesn't accept the imagery of the slave auction when Luke and Owen purchase C-3PO and R2-D2 from the jawas, or doesn't wince when Luke returns the first R2 unit because it has a "bad motivator" is kidding themselves.
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Jewmanji posted:Yeah anyone who doesn't accept the imagery of the slave auction when Luke and Owen purchase C-3PO and R2-D2 from the jawas, or doesn't wince when Luke returns the first R2 unit because it has a "bad motivator" is kidding themselves. Nothing's going on in that scene at all, like just today I had to attach a restraining bolt to my PS4 so it would be play games instead of thinking for itself and possibly not liking me.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:17
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Schwarzwald posted:Big Luke's headless body is decomposing in a cave on Dagobah. I'm surprised SMG hasn't taken that scene and extrapolated some kind of hosed up theory about how young Luke is dead, replaced by Dark Side Clone Luke, who understands the world better than myopic Jedis because Good is Dumb. Of course he may have, I started skimming his posts around last April.
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Jewmanji posted:Yeah anyone who doesn't accept the imagery of the slave auction when Luke and Owen purchase C-3PO and R2-D2 from the jawas, or doesn't wince when Luke returns the first R2 unit because it has a "bad motivator" is kidding themselves. R5-D4's motivator literally exploded out of the top of his dome.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:23
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Schwarzwald posted:What are those two designs from? The top one is the Eclipse star destroyer (it has a superlaser at it's tip) The bottom one is a Sith star destroyer type thing from the old republic times They're both old EU now.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:24
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jivjov posted:R5-D4's motivator literally exploded out of the top of his dome. It's an enslaved person losing its mind after being torn from its enslaved child.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:27
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kiimo posted:I'm surprised SMG hasn't taken that scene and extrapolated some kind of hosed up theory about how young Luke is dead, replaced by Dark Side Clone Luke, who understands the world better than myopic Jedis because Good is Dumb. Viewing the real world around a simple good/bad binary is dumb - that is what the prequels are about. The autistic paradise of the pre-Episode 1 Republic falls apart because humans like drama. The Force represents a purer form of communication between individuals (SMG did a great analysis of Episode V and this theme) that can allow a harmonious world to exist. But this requires the will and wisdom that the prequel Jedi and we today lack.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:29
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kiimo posted:Of course he may have, I started skimming his posts around last April. What? He's 50% of the reason I check this thread. How do people not appreciate SMG? I mean seriously. It's like having Roland Barthes in this very thread with us.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:36
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Anakin Skywalker was a child-murdering Evil Person and my only regret was he wasn't alive when Luke burned him.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:38
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kiimo posted:I'm surprised SMG hasn't taken that scene and extrapolated some kind of hosed up theory about how young Luke is dead, replaced by Dark Side Clone Luke, who understands the world better than myopic Jedis because Good is Dumb. Episode VIII teaser: *Shots of space and huge ship to ship battles* *Luke's voice* "REY......." *Luke takes up the lightsaber from her hand* "REY.....We have a BIG problem." *Shot of slightly taller Luke killing younglings* *smash cut to STAR WARS*
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kiimo posted:Anakin Skywalker was a child-murdering Evil Person and my only regret was he wasn't alive when Luke burned him. Do you consider yourself to be a Christian?
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Feb 19, 2016 03:42
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I'm glad this thread is finally exploring the implications of the Bigger Luke Hypothesis.
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Empress Theonora posted:I'm glad this thread is finally exploring the implications of the Bigger Luke Hypothesis. In a way, there's a slightly taller Luke Skywalker next to all of us.
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kiimo posted:I'm surprised SMG hasn't taken that scene and extrapolated some kind of hosed up theory about how young Luke is dead, replaced by Dark Side Clone Luke, who understands the world better than myopic Jedis because Good is Dumb. Why would I do something like that.?
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Feb 19, 2016 03:54
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Guidelines for writing stars' war Robots are best characterized like the appliance animals of The Flintstones 'It's a living' Over the centuries with the development of retraining bolts and memory wipes droids know their place.
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Jewmanji posted:Someone convince me that it's going to be ok when we find out that Snoke is just another evil dude lurking in the shadows. Snoke is likely just a guy, and even if by some minuscule chance he is Plagueis, we've never met him and we know little enough about him that he's still essentially just a guy, even if he did set a lot of important stuff in motion 100 years ago. Drop the name Plagueis and 90% of the viewing audience is just going to say "huh"? I'm not the first to suggest it, but I'd bet good money that if there's a "twist" coming about Snoke, it's going to be about what he is, not who he is. Like he's a ghost or a computer program or really small or something. General Dog fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Feb 19, 2016 05:15
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The hologram is Luke in disguise.
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Feb 19, 2016 05:20
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It's an actor in a mocap suit that some old whitehair Imperials are using to dupe Kylo Ren (and only Kylo Ren, it's common knowledge among the stormtroopers and everybody that it's all a charade and he's the only one dumb enough to fall for it).
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Toilet Mouth posted:It's an actor in a mocap suit that some old whitehair Imperials are using to dupe Kylo Ren (and only Kylo Ren, it's common knowledge among the stormtroopers and everybody that it's all a charade and he's the only one dumb enough to fall for it). There was a plot twist in the terrible Kevin J Anderson "Young Jedi Knights" book series I always really liked, where the guy running Evil Jedi Academy is getting orders from a hologram of Emperor Palpatine. When everything's going to hell in a handbasket, he runs to Palpatine for advice and barges in on his "meditation chamber" only to find that it's just been some former imperial guards manipulating old recordings of the Emperor for years. He takes the news about as well as Kylo would have.
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Feb 19, 2016 05:59
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Toilet Mouth posted:Snoke is likely just a guy, and even if by some minuscule chance he is Plagueis, we've never met him and we know little enough about him that he's still essentially just a guy, even if he did set a lot of important stuff in motion 100 years ago. Drop the name Plagueis and 90% of the viewing audience is just going to say "huh"? I'm not sure I buy the argument that revealing him to be Plagueis would leave audiences scratching their heads. They could very easily just give him that name and the people who care would be able to connect the dots. "Your evil ship is ready, Lord Plagueis" "Sure thanks, now onto evil things." It's not something that needs a big reveal necessarily, but would help smooth out the three trilogies quite concisely rather than giving the mythic powers to some schmo from a different space neighborhood.
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Neo Rasa posted:One of the reasons I wish Jodorowsky's Dune got made (besides, like it's Jodorowsky's Dune holy poo poo) was that they were going to have all the ships be painted with crazy patterns and colors (some of which could change). The space backgrounds were going to be hyper colorful with tons of nebula and trials of gasses and stuff and the ships would use this as camouflage to blend in., the comparison was to elaborately colored fish that blend in very effectively with the specific types of coral and seaweed they live in. That colorful, patterned look is typical of Chris Foss, the artist who made those Dune paintings, like this:  or this:  or this:  or perhaps something that nerdo-prime Lucas would definitely have seen in 1973 on the cover of the novel Moonbeast, or on the cover of a 1974 Science Fiction Monthly.  Look familiar? Chris Foss posted:“When I first saw Star Wars, and the triangular spaceship came on, I was actually quite annoyed because I thought ‘hahaha, they’ve nicked that from the painting I did’. The Bloodstar Conspiracy, which I did for Panther ages before, and in fact I did have a minor run-in with two representatives from the studio.” Bloodstar Conspiracy didn't end up coming out until 1978 though. Still, Lucas or someone working for him definitely saw it. Disappointed the prequel precursors didn't go more in this direction, or at least paint scheme. Foss's work did make it into Star Wars in full though, albiet in a very minor role:  I'm still waiting for a film that is inspired by Foss's art than the generic garbage we get in 90% of space films these days. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Kart Barfunkel posted:I'm not sure I buy the argument that revealing him to be Plagueis would leave audiences scratching their heads. They could very easily just give him that name and the people who care would be able to connect the dots. It would be awkward if for no other reason than that they introduced him as something else.
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Feb 19, 2016 06:19
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I kinda wish they'd gone full Techno-Pope with Snoke. 
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feedmyleg posted:I'm still waiting for a film that is inspired by Foss's art than the generic garbage we get in 90% of space films these days. IIRC, Chris Foss designed the ships for Guardians of the Galaxy, and some of the ships in The Expanse have a bit of a Foss-ish look.
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If Grand Poobah Snoke is in fact a Sith Lord, there is the hilarious implication that he hasn't given Kylo a Darth title yet. Really feeding into that kids insecurities.
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I think people are fundamentally missing the point of a twist. The idea is that you take a story that the audience is invested in, and then introduce new information that recontextualizing everything. For example, you follow Bruce Willis' story and then reveal he's a ghost in order to make the point that he's been sleepwalking through life. Snoke is just a guy who sits in a chair, so who cares if it's actually Darth Plagueous who sat in a chair during the events of this film?
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McDowell posted:Do you consider yourself to be a Christian? I consider myself over any Star Wars conversation that doesn't involve movie news or jokes. Neo Rasa posted:Episode VIII teaser: like this. This I am in to.
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Feb 19, 2016 07:15
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kiimo posted:I consider myself over any Star Wars conversation that doesn't involve movie news or jokes. Ever hear of IO9?????
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kiimo posted:I consider myself over any Star Wars conversation that doesn't involve movie news or jokes. Bummer, man. Those are the most interesting kind.
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I've been following this thread for thousands of pages and it has become like a heroin habit where I am only happy on the initial high and that hit is when I read movie news and jokes and then 40 pages of droid slavery are like the baby crawling on the ceiling as I detox. Also I'm not being very serious, please continue your droid slavery conversation don't mind me. I even like SMG
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I finished reading that EU book Lost Stars today. It ends with this specific Star Destroyer crashing into Jakku. The book is better than The Force Awakens.
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Feb 19, 2016 08:09
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Raxivace posted:I finished reading that EU book Lost Stars today. It ends with this specific Star Destroyer crashing into Jakku. Well, it ends with A Star Destroyer crashing into Jakku. There may be more. But it's probably this one.
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Feb 19, 2016 15:42
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There's at least two because we see a Super Star Destroyer crashed on the planet's surface as well IIRC.
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snoke ekons enoks euoks euuoks ewoks
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Sir Kodiak posted:snoke Only if he's a stack of ewoks standing on each other.
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kiimo posted:I've been following this thread for thousands of pages and it has become like a heroin habit where I am only happy on the initial high and that hit is when I read movie news and jokes and then 40 pages of droid slavery are like the baby crawling on the ceiling as I detox. "You know those Star Wars prequels you hate? They're actually about droid slavery. So that means they're good" 
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Yaws posted:"You know those Star Wars prequels you hate? They're actually about droid slavery. So that means they're good" Nope, just Star Wars in general is about droid slavery.
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