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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Article about no mans sky, seem pretty interesting.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/artificial-universe-no-mans-sky/463308/

“The physics of every other game—it’s faked,” the chief architect Sean Murray explained. “When you’re on a planet, you’re surrounded by a skybox—a cube that someone has painted stars or clouds onto. If there is a day to night cycle, it happens because they are slowly transitioning between a series of different boxes.” The skybox is also a barrier beyond which the player can never pass. The stars are merely points of light. In No Man’s Sky however, every star is a place that you can go. The universe is infinite. The edges extend out into a lifeless abyss that you can plunge into forever.

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Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Article about no mans sky, seem pretty interesting.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/artificial-universe-no-mans-sky/463308/

“The physics of every other game—it’s faked,” the chief architect Sean Murray explained. “When you’re on a planet, you’re surrounded by a skybox—a cube that someone has painted stars or clouds onto. If there is a day to night cycle, it happens because they are slowly transitioning between a series of different boxes.” The skybox is also a barrier beyond which the player can never pass. The stars are merely points of light. In No Man’s Sky however, every star is a place that you can go. The universe is infinite. The edges extend out into a lifeless abyss that you can plunge into forever.


Yes but is it fun?

That's going to be my response for everything now.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Berious posted:

Here you go



I tried to make bow tie look smug but he came out depressed but I left it because it felt appropriate

Please be kind it's m first MSPaint

:golfclap: I thought those were giant tits at first, good show!

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Yes but is it fun?

That's going to be my response for everything now.

I like the thought of a game made entirely for exploring, I never played minecraft but minecraft in space sounds cool to me :shrug:

Duckaerobics
Jul 22, 2007


Lipstick Apathy
So I know most of you probably don't care, but I think I have learned all I can about the horse Star Citizen.

In 2012 a horse with very fine breeding was born in Great Britain. This un-named colt was then put up for sale in October 2013. At this point I'm almost sure Chris has nothing to do with this horse.

This young colt being very well breed and at a distinguished event brought a lot of attention. Particularly from the prime minister of the UAE. Here is a little quote from the Tattersalls October 2013 summary about the purchase.

Tattersalls posted:

Sheikh Mohammed’s bloodstock advisor John Ferguson sent to 160,000 guineas to secure the NEW APPROACH colt out of the Group placed FASLIYEV mare FASLEN, consigned by Peter Stanley’s New England Stud. The February-born colt was bred by Paddy Barrett, who was at Park Paddocks to watch his yearling sell.

There are a few interesting tid-bits in all of this. First, This horse was bought around the time the original kickstarter began, and was not named at the time of purchase. Second, a significant amount of money was spent on this horse (more than 3 times the average for the day).

This leads me to some educated guesses. I don't believe that Chris was involved with this horse at all now. It looks to me like the Sheikh first heard of star citizen the game just before or just after buying the horse. The fact that the horse was not named until after the kickstarter makes me think that UAE royal family is invested in star citizen (the game). Seeing that this horse cost them about $230,000 and has only made $50,000 in winnings it's probably only the second worst star citizen labeled investment they have made.

tldr; Sheik Mohammed of the UAE bought and named Star Citizen the horse. He has almost certainly wasted a bunch of money on it as well as the non-game star citizen. I would probably be more worried about pissing them off than eastern Eurpoeans, but at least they probably don't care about the money.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Yes but is it fun?

That's going to be my response for everything now.

You obviously don't know anything about game development. The important things are immersion and fidelity. Star Citizens are expected to make their own fun. This should be a trivial task for them, as they've had years of practice making their own reality.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Yes but is it fun?

That's going to be my response for everything now.

Pertinent quote from an actual legendary game developer:

"Our approach to making games is to find the fun first and then use the technology to enhance the fun." - Sid Meier

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

So it's actually just a massive coincidence that Chris Roberts also owns a stable? That's honestly even more :psyduck:

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I like the thought of a game made entirely for exploring, I never played minecraft but minecraft in space sounds cool to me :shrug:

No it is, and that wasn't intended directly at you. SC just got me really jaded about features like that.

darkarchon
Feb 2, 2016

My name is a trolling word

EightAce posted:

Hmmmmm
It seems I will have to stop posting for a while. There is a new trailer coming out soon watch out for Craig Fairbrass if they leave him in (He is genuinely a diamond in a sea of horrible 90's FMV poo poo)

Stay safe commandos and see you in the verse.

Stay safe traitor ghost :iiam:

Variable 5
Apr 17, 2007
We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.
Grimey Drawer

It's true. Fat young clean-shaven guys do tend to look like middle-aged lesbians.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

No it is, and that wasn't intended directly at you. SC just got me really jaded about features like that.

Honestly the things they're claiming they can do in NML sounds mental but it's not like i'll ever play it, I watch games on youtube more than play them nowadays, it's cheaper ha!

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

intardnation posted:

reddit is serious stuff - no they think it is.

Stepping back and looking at it - they foster little communities of inbred cockboxs with little discernible discussion.

They do have some good things like AMAs and creepypms

But they cant take a joke and consider themselves all authorities on subjects.

I mean look how much reddit rides Palmers dick and Gabes as well.

But at least in Gabes case the mods allow descent and paid mods were revoked.

Oh and ya they are in the pocket of anita sarkesian and have started to curtail free speech kinda like twatter does now.

A little insight into community - some are good but most are bad. And too much power goes to some of the mods heads.
(check out drama sub - that is the poo poo that happens on reddit)

forgot gone wild - I like boobies too!

Of course reddit should be taken seriously. That bigoted shithole has literally caused murders. Their little system of having closed off communities makes people voice more and more extreme opinions to fit in with the rest of the crowd seeing as redditors are socially retarded and desperate for approval.

So then you get these little communities that churn out extremism to the point where you have your standard racist and bigoted communities but reddit did something new. It started several completely new hate communities about whatever loving nerd topic they think of that week. Like that one subreddit dedicated to not having children. Dude intentionally left his kid in a car to die, turns out he was a longtime user of that subreddit. Dylan Storm Roof himself on facebook said he loved reddit.

There was a time several years in the past where reddit could've been not-poo poo if the moderators and admins enforced a strict set of standards but there are no standards and there have been no standards for a while. Reddit will continue to suck balls and churn out the odd death once every few months, maybe once a year something good gets done that should've been common sense in the first place like banning goddamn child porn or the entire racist subreddit network. Oh yea and they were adamant about KEEPING the loving child porn until Anderson Cooper reported on it.

Iridium
Apr 4, 2002

Wretched Harp

Phi230 posted:

Of course reddit should be taken seriously. That bigoted shithole has literally caused murders. Their little system of having closed off communities makes people voice more and more extreme opinions to fit in with the rest of the crowd seeing as redditors are socially retarded and desperate for approval.

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process
Goddam I cant wait to play No Mans Sky. If it comes with PS VR I think I will cum from my pussy.

Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.

some great posts about reddit today

Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.

how do you know when it's time to put a thread to sleep?

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I like the thought of a game made entirely for exploring
It already exists and is called Noctis.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

SelenicMartian posted:

It already exists and is called Noctis.

Or Space Engine. Less of a game but you do the same thing anyway.

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process

Happy Sisyphus posted:

how do you know when it's time to put a thread to sleep?
[/

[quote="Happy Sisyphus" post="456461786"]
how do you know when it's time to put a thread to sleep?

Without this thread we will never know when fat lesnick says something slightly amusing on averse the verse.

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

hottubrhymemachine posted:

Goddam I cant wait to play No Mans Sky. If it comes with PS VR I think I will cum from my pussy.

We've heard tons about the fidelity and immersion but nothing as far as I can tell about the gameplay. Beyond some goal to get to the center of the universe I think? Could be amazing but I'm definitely going to wait for the reviews.

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

Happy Sisyphus posted:

how do you know when it's time to put a thread to sleep?

we'll be posting about this for the next five years, maybe ten even

Iridium
Apr 4, 2002

Wretched Harp

hottubrhymemachine posted:

Without this thread we will never know when fat lesnick says something slightly amusing on averse the verse.

no worries when one dies another always rises.

we'll get through at least two more multi-thousand page threads before they call the game "launched".

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Berious posted:

We've heard tons about the fidelity and immersion but nothing as far as I can tell about the gameplay. Beyond some goal to get to the center of the universe I think? Could be amazing but I'm definitely going to wait for the reviews.

Wasn't that the goal of Spore too? Oh no.

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process

Berious posted:

We've heard tons about the fidelity and immersion but nothing as far as I can tell about the gameplay. Beyond some goal to get to the center of the universe I think? Could be amazing but I'm definitely going to wait for the reviews.

Dont get me wrong, I certainly wont be preordering. I just see a lot of passion from the creators and it gives me hope.

They've also never claimed it will be the Best drat Space Game Ever so that's encouraging.

There is something very pleasing about the way Fat Lesnick sounds in the mouth/ear.

Mr Fronts
Jan 31, 2016

Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Yes but is it fun?

That's going to be my response for everything now.

If "a lifeless abyss that you can plunge into" doesn't sound like fun to you, you obviously know nothing about lifeless abyss fun plunging.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Article about no mans sky, seem pretty interesting.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/artificial-universe-no-mans-sky/463308/

“The physics of every other game—it’s faked,” the chief architect Sean Murray explained. “When you’re on a planet, you’re surrounded by a skybox—a cube that someone has painted stars or clouds onto. If there is a day to night cycle, it happens because they are slowly transitioning between a series of different boxes.” The skybox is also a barrier beyond which the player can never pass. The stars are merely points of light. In No Man’s Sky however, every star is a place that you can go. The universe is infinite. The edges extend out into a lifeless abyss that you can plunge into forever.


NMS is up against the Spore Factor. Their PR, descriptions, and demos have been all about tech, which reveals their core focus/competency. I mean, who cares if you use a skybox? A giant infinite navigable star map is visually stunning, and a powerful statement about the boundless miracle of the universe, but this isn't a Discovery channel documentary. IMHO the most important moment in a game's design is when you decide what your player can't do. Limitation is what drives tension, choice, and consequence. NMS's prime directive seems to be building large-world tech to remove limitations. So if they want the thing to actually be fun, they either have to slap on some kind of "story" that just adds limitations again, or just say gently caress it and release Solitaire in Space. Either way, imo, they're in a tight spot.

Toops fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Feb 19, 2016

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Toops posted:

NMS is up against the Spore Factor. Their PR, descriptions, and demos have been all about tech, which reveals their core focus/competency. I mean, who cares if you use a skybox? A giant infinite navigable star map is visually stunning, and a powerful statement about the boundless miracle of the universe, but this isn't a Discovery channel documentary. IMHO the most important moment in a game's design is when you decide what your player can't do. Limitation is what drives tension, choice, and consequence. NMS's prime directive seems to be building large-world tech to remove limitations. So if they want the thing to actually be fun, they either have to slap on some kind of "story" that just adds limitations again, or just say gently caress it and release Solitaire in Space. Either way, imo, they're in a tight spot.

tbf some of spore was very good (the first couple of stages) and the first time i played it i even enjoyed the space bit aside from constantly being called home

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Toops posted:

NMS is up against the Spore Factor. Their PR, descriptions, and demos have been all about tech, which reveals their core focus/competency. I mean, who cares if you use a skybox? A giant infinite navigable star map is visually stunning, and a powerful statement about the boundless miracle of the universe, but this isn't a Discovery channel documentary. IMHO the most important moment in a game's design is when you decide what your player can't do. Limitation is what drives tension, choice, and consequence. NMS's prime directive seems to be building large-world tech to remove limitations. So if they want the thing to actually be fun, they either have to slap on some kind of "story" that just adds limitations again, or just say gently caress it and release Solitaire in Space. Either way, imo, they're in a tight spot.

If there's anything this thread has taught me it's not to believe the hype and hyperbole, but the guys making NML seem to be at least trying to make something different and they're not scamming people for it.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

intardnation posted:



Oh and ya they are in the pocket of anita sarkesian and have started to curtail free speech kinda like twatter does now.


mods??

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Toops posted:

So if they want the thing to actually be fun, they either have to slap on some kind of "story" that just adds limitations again, or just say gently caress it and release Solitaire in Space.
Add a Big Bad thing that's after you and eats the planets you visit a couple of days after you arrive.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

MeLKoR posted:

Link/timestamp?

here it is

kordansk
Sep 12, 2011
Kord's guide to determining if you are a Star Shitizen Cultist.

You use the following words unironically when discussing a video game and crowd funding: pledge, immersion, immerse, fidelity, bdsse, 'verse, citizen, open development, faith, trust.
You are willing to accept that community managers and employees who's primary job it is to inform the people about their game are actually not reliable sources of information.
You are willing to accept anything that Dear Leader says as 100% the truth and that any previous statement is to be invalidated by any new information.
You are willing to accept that history is a work in progress.
You discuss your investment/pledge/purchase with other individuals who have no idea what the game is in an attempt to get them to invest/pledge/purchase items from the same organization.
You think that nobody outside of CIG has any concept of game development.
You are willing to accept, without actual evidence, that a company will deliver a product based on faith/trust.
You are dolvak, CmdrTom, B'tak, or any other idiot that actually believes that their opinion matters to a company that is fleecing you for your money.
You think that having the option to pay to win vs play to win are not mutually exclusive within the same environment.
You would rather spend money on concept art than groceries.
You are willing to accept that a game without a design document being developed by 300ish employees across 2 continents by 4 separate organizations without actual oversight is going to be completed in any sort of semblance of the original pitch.
You immediately dismiss any criticism as negative and assume that all that criticize are trolls.
You can think that spending more money on a game than most people spend on family vacations/cars/college tuition and bragging about it somehow makes you interesting to those around you.
You read the SA forums and unironically think that all SA members are out to get you.
You unironically dislike Derek Smart for his crusade against a company that you have no actual vested interest in other than hoping you get a video game from them.

I ran out of things off the top of my head. Is the game out yet?

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

SelenicMartian posted:

Add a Big Bad thing that's after you and eats the planets you visit a couple of days after you arrive.

Someones been planting bombs on all the planets! You've gotta defuse em, only 19,245,3987 to go!

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Toops posted:

NMS is up against the Spore Factor. Their PR, descriptions, and demos have been all about tech, which reveals their core focus/competency. I mean, who cares if you use a skybox? A giant infinite navigable star map is visually stunning, and a powerful statement about the boundless miracle of the universe, but this isn't a Discovery channel documentary. IMHO the most important moment in a game's design is when you decide what your player can't do. Limitation is what drives tension, choice, and consequence. NMS's prime directive seems to be building large-world tech to remove limitations. So if they want the thing to actually be fun, they either have to slap on some kind of "story" that just adds limitations again, or just say gently caress it and release Solitaire in Space. Either way, imo, they're in a tight spot.

I think "fake space Google Maps" is a pretty meh concept tbh

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

kordansk posted:

Kord's guide to determining if you are a Star Shitizen Cultist.

You are dolvak, CmdrTom, B'tak, or any other idiot that actually believes that their opinion matters to a company that is fleecing you for your money.

I am amused that you slipped in B'tak with the INN people.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Article about no mans sky, seem pretty interesting.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/artificial-universe-no-mans-sky/463308/

“The physics of every other game—it’s faked,” the chief architect Sean Murray explained. “When you’re on a planet, you’re surrounded by a skybox—a cube that someone has painted stars or clouds onto. If there is a day to night cycle, it happens because they are slowly transitioning between a series of different boxes.” The skybox is also a barrier beyond which the player can never pass. The stars are merely points of light. In No Man’s Sky however, every star is a place that you can go. The universe is infinite. The edges extend out into a lifeless abyss that you can plunge into forever.


Woah hey, "every other game" doesn't include Elite does it 'cause the only skybox in Elite is like 3 static pictures outside of the galaxy in the Galmap.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Everything I've read about NMS is boring

If I want to fap over a few computer algorithms I'd rather read them

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I think "fake space Google Maps" is a pretty meh concept tbh

I wish id known your thoughts on this sooner. Now I feel like I've fat lesnicked myself.

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hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Everything I've read about NMS is boring

If I want to fap over a few computer algorithms I'd rather read them

Woah girl, slow down your insightful posting so I can catch up and recalibrate my lesnick.

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