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Inzombiac posted:An embarrassing moment for me watching that film is when he bring flours to the girl, a baker. I actually did that as a joke Valentine's gift to one of my girlfriends, like years and years before the movie came out. I also cooked her a romantic candle lit meal of hot dogs, tater tots, and fruit salad cups. My attempt....didn't go over nearly as well as his did. I guess because she was a dental hygienist and not a baker.
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It works for Harold because of the Baker's politics - he isn't just making a romantic gesture, he is showing her that he can think outside the box and operate on her wavelength - he can be weird and unorthodox, his job just forbids it. It's his first time really reaching out, and he has made horrible first and lame second impressions. He trying to show her (and prove to himself as well) in one gesture, that he can be more than he has been in every respect. Including honesty - Instead of the cliched "I love you" he is honest, and sticks with the literal truth - He "wants" her.
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I really wish Will Ferrell would do more dramatic roles. Stranger Than Fiction is such a good movie.
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I think my favourite part of his performance is when Dr Hilbert tells him that his death has to happen the way it has been written. Hilbert: "Harold. Harold listen to me. You will die, eventually. That is certain. You could have a heart attack at the bank... choke on a mint... but I promise you it will not be nearly as meaningful or beautiful as the death that she has written for you." Harold: "*with his voice cracking in despair* It's just really bad timing..." I also like his earlier conversation about the meaning of life: Hilbert: "You could do whatever you want! Have an adventure, go on a trip, finish reading Crime and Punishment. Hell you could even eat nothing but pancakes if you wanted!" Harold: "I don't want to eat pancakes, I want to live. Who, in a choice between life and pancakes, would choose pancakes?!" Hilbert: "Harold, I think that if you really thought about it you would realise that the answer to that question is inexorably linked to both the type of life being led and, of course, the quality of the pancakes." Harold: "Well yeah but remember that this isn't a theory, or a philosophy to me this is MY LIFE!" Hilbert: "Exactly! So just go make it the one you've always wanted  !"BioEnchanted has a new favorite as of 21:14 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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Inzombiac posted:I really wish Will Ferrell would do more dramatic roles. Stranger Than Fiction is such a good movie. This reminded me of The Truman Show and now I badly need to watch that movie again
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I did a film analysis course last semester and had my final video essay and paper on Stranger than Fiction. It's such a great film and I agree, Ferrell should take on more roles likes that. I think my favourite line is when he's talking to the psychiatrist: "No. No. It's not schizophrenia. It's just a voice in my head. I mean, the voice isn't telling me to do anything. It's telling me what I've already done. Accurately... ...and with a better vocabulary."  His delivery is consistently spot on, and he balances the comedic and the dramatic extremely well throughout the whole thing, but in that moment there's an odd mix of self-deprecation and resignation that I couldn't help but laugh out loud and feel sorry for him at the same time.
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Inzombiac posted:I really wish Will Ferrell would do more dramatic roles. Stranger Than Fiction is such a good movie. I think I mentioned it in this thread before but when I was in film school they told us over and over that if you want an amazing dramatic actor find a great comedian because comedy is by far the hardest thing to do well. I've been telling people for years that Stranger Than Fiction is one of my favorite movies and people never believe me that Will Ferrell can loving act, man. "Aren't you relieved to know that you are not a golem? "
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I also like the Hilbert intro when Harold mentions the key phrase: Hilbert: "LIttle did he know? I once gave a seminar on Little did he know. I taught an entire class, on Little did he know. God dammit Harold, LIttle did he know means there's something you don't know. We should set an appointment... next week, no, imminent, you could be dead by then. Come back tomorrow, at 3:00" Harold: "Ten seconds ago you said you wouldn't help me." Hilbert: "It's been a very revealing ten seconds Harold." Ana's pretty amazing too. Love the bus conversation (Replaced text with link as it is a long, funny scene): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HArlgWlQ4 BioEnchanted has a new favorite as of 21:32 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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BioEnchanted posted:Ana's pretty amazing too. Love the bus conversation (Replaced text with link as it is a long, funny scene): The staging of Harold on the swinging seat is sublime.
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On the subject of will ferrel being a great actor in the lego movie "is lord business the bad guy?" The way he sells the realization and pain is very good. Also the reason lord businsss wears platform shoes is that the dad is so much taller then the son IRL
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bewilderment posted:The Halo movie Forward Unto Dawn isn't particularly worth watching except that the first half of it is the first half of Starship Troopers played almost completely straight. Similarly the Spartan super soldiers don't exist to kill aliens. They exist to kill humans. It just happened that aliens showed up for them to kill instead.
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Polaron posted:I think I mentioned it in this thread before but when I was in film school they told us over and over that if you want an amazing dramatic actor find a great comedian because comedy is by far the hardest thing to do well. One of my favorite roles in this vein is Peter Sellers in Being There. Peter Sellers' entire performance as 'Chance' is a study in subtlety, especially after watching him in the Pink Panther series and seeing his true range.
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Tumble posted:One of my favorite roles in this vein is Peter Sellers in Being There. Peter Sellers' entire performance as 'Chance' is a study in subtlety, especially after watching him in the Pink Panther series and seeing his true range. The ur example (though going in reverse from how it usually goes) is, of course, Leslie Nielson. He was cast in Airplane! specifically because of his previous dramatic work, at which point everyone discovered that he had loving perfect comedic timing and delivery and now it's almost disorienting to watch him in his early serious roles.
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Polaron posted:The ur example (though going in reverse from how it usually goes) is, of course, Leslie Nielson. He was cast in Airplane! specifically because of his previous dramatic work, at which point everyone discovered that he had loving perfect comedic timing and delivery and now it's almost disorienting to watch him in his early serious roles. Huh, I always though Police Squad! happened before Airplane. That's pretty cool.
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Polaron posted:The ur example (though going in reverse from how it usually goes) is, of course, Leslie Nielson. He was cast in Airplane! specifically because of his previous dramatic work, at which point everyone discovered that he had loving perfect comedic timing and delivery and now it's almost disorienting to watch him in his early serious roles. Forbidden Planet, for example.
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Robin Williams is another example of this. Watch him in One Hour Photo, and that one with Al Pacino where he plays a murderer. All of the Robin Williams(tm) coked up brittle zaniness is gone and you have understated, menacing/moving performances.
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Holy gently caress One Hour Photo creeped me right the gently caress out. I think the other one you are talking about is called Insomnia. Great movie too. He had one other one I liked, but I can't remember the title. Basically he was some kind of funeral director dude who make videos of people's memories off a chip they had implanted as a kid, and then it turned into a murder mystery and some big kerfuffle cause he apparently had one installed as a kid and didn't know about it, which is a BIG NO NO for that particular job since you have unfettered access to someone's entire life. Neat idea, and damned if I can remember how it ends, but I remember thinking "Holy poo poo, this is Robin Williams and he is kicking rear end at this".
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Polaron posted:The ur example (though going in reverse from how it usually goes) is, of course, Leslie Nielson. He was cast in Airplane! specifically because of his previous dramatic work, at which point everyone discovered that he had loving perfect comedic timing and delivery and now it's almost disorienting to watch him in his early serious roles. I feel like Jon Hamm is the modern equivalent of this, the dude got famous for smoldering and monologuing on Mad Men but is loving amazing at comedy Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Holy gently caress One Hour Photo creeped me right the gently caress out. A PYF subtle movie moment from One Hour Photo is that at one point they have a scene with an Evangelion action figure, even though at that point it was obscure nerd bait no mainstream toy store would sell. This is because Robin Williams is a huge nerd and he brought the Evangelion action figure himself from his own collection, just as a silly in-joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5FmFaK7pMU Sleeveless has a new favorite as of 03:08 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Its weird how we think of Robin Williams as a comic actor, when he probably starred in as many dramas as comedies.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Its weird how we think of Robin Williams as a comic actor, when he probably starred in as many dramas as comedies. because he was a standup comic
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Holy gently caress One Hour Photo creeped me right the gently caress out. The Final Cut
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Despite being elected for the dumbest possible reasons, President Komacho in Idiocracy is actually the best candidate they have for the society they are living in. He is the only one that notices that things have gone wrong at all, and even though he doesn't know how to fix it himself (Brawndo's probably run things for longer than he's been alive) he knows that Not Sure is smart enough to figure it out and gives him a think tank and unlimited resources to fix it. This actually makes him (After Not Sure and Rita) the third smartest man in the US, and the absolute smartest before they arrive.
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I watched the new Ninja Turtles movie recently. It was a fun distraction. At one point April O'Neil calls Will Arnett's character Vernon. Vernon is in the middle of making a sandwich with just parmesan cheese and yellow mustard. GOB eats the same culinary masterpiece in the 4th season of Arrested Development.
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deoju posted:I watched the new Ninja Turtles movie recently. It was a fun distraction. At one point April O'Neil calls Will Arnett's character Vernon. Vernon is in the middle of making a sandwich with just parmesan cheese and yellow mustard. GOB eats the same culinary masterpiece in the 4th season of Arrested Development. I'm confused about where him being named Vernon comes into this. The cartoon had a cameraman named Vernon too, although it was kind of a different character. http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Vernon Also the mustard/parmesan thing from AD was probably a shoutout to Martin Mull, who played Gene Parmesan and also Col Mustard in Clue.
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Wild T posted:Skittering, and... skittering, and... Would you like to know more? Fixed
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Polaron posted:The ur example (though going in reverse from how it usually goes) is, of course, Leslie Nielson. https://youtu.be/NwG43YBik4s
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John Big Booty posted:Leslie Nielson carried, practically at all times, a fart noise maker. The man is the best thing to ever come out of Canada with his closest competition being Canada Dry Ginger Ale.
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BioEnchanted posted:Despite being elected for the dumbest possible reasons, President Komacho in Idiocracy is actually the best candidate they have for the society they are living in. He is the only one that notices that things have gone wrong at all, and even though he doesn't know how to fix it himself (Brawndo's probably run things for longer than he's been alive) he knows that Not Sure is smart enough to figure it out and gives him a think tank and unlimited resources to fix it. This actually makes him (After Not Sure and Rita) the third smartest man in the US, and the absolute smartest before they arrive. Hell, I'd vote for him today if he was running.
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John Big Booty posted:Leslie Nielson carried, practically at all times, a fart noise maker. http://www.avclub.com/article/surely-you-cant-be-serious-oral-history-airplane-218043#welcome-to-the-machine quote:Bryant: He was selling them for $7.00 apiece, and I think he sold them to every single person in the cast and crew, so I’m sure he made more money from that than he did from shooting the movie! But we would all sit around with our farting machines during rehearsals, and there’d be just this cacophony of farts. That whole article is worth reading BTW.
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Canemacar posted:Hell, I'd vote for him today if he was running. He's a joke, but at the same time it makes total sense he got elected. On top of all he did with Not Sure, he pitched all of it in a way that his constituency understood and related to. You know the 'have a beer with' politicians that almost always make things worse, but look good doing it? Komacho is that, but actually a good leader. If he's not one of the best world leaders in all of fiction, he's drat close.
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The subtlest joke in Idiocracy is that it's a stupid dick and fart comedy made by an Alex Jones listener that became an unironic argument for eugenics by idiots who think they're smarter than everyone else.
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I think my favourite line in that movie is "THIS GUY JUST GOT HIS rear end A PARDON!  "I like the backgrounds in Idiocracy as well. Like when Not Sure first looks out the window:  Love the two buildings held up by lashing them together. There's a lot of imagination there. Also love the subtle background gag (at least I missed it initially) surrounding the airplane. At the beginning of the movie the cops are chasing Not Sure and his new friend and they abandon the car, which then gets shot up until it explodes. One of the pieces of shrapnel gets launched so high it hits a passing plane which falls from the sky. Later at Walmart, look at what's laying in the isles in the background: 
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You can see Beavis and Butt-head in the gigantic family tree as well as other Mike Judge created characters such as Tom Anderson.
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Sleeveless posted:A PYF subtle movie moment from One Hour Photo is that at one point they have a scene with an Evangelion action figure, even though at that point it was obscure nerd bait no mainstream toy store would sell. It's also definitely not for kids, holy poo poo Sleeveless posted:This is because Robin Williams is a huge nerd and he brought the Evangelion action figure himself from his own collection, just as a silly in-joke. I always wondered if the nightmare where he bleeds profusely from his eyes was a reference to Evangelion
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John Big Booty posted:Leslie Nielson carried, practically at all times, a fart noise maker. Both of these men are now dead.
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I'm a sucker for 'Idiocracy.' It's so drat quotable, and the sets/costumes are fantastic. A fun subtle thing I read on the IMDB trivia page is that the Great Garbage Avalanche toward the beginning of the film is caused by a single recyclable aluminum can.
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A can of Brawndo, which caused the whole food shortage to begin with.
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John Big Booty posted:Leslie Nielson carried, practically at all times, a fart noise maker. 
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I don't know if it counts as subtle, but its a minor not-plot related thing in Primer: Before all the time-travel chicanery that goes on, three guys are discussing the technical issues behind a product, or something. I love the scene because (movie or not) I love listening to two people, intelligent in their field, discussing a problem or something in a high-level way. The kind of stuff they kept cutting away from in Mythbusters, and for some reason I really love that scene in the movie. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 21:44 on Feb 20, 2016 |
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On rewatching Stranger Than Fiction I noticed some new stuff that I hadn't hit on before: Penny and Karen directly mirror Harold and Ana. Karen and Harold are both people at a self-destructively reclusive point in their lives, Harold a number-obsessed robot, spinning his wheels unable to figure out what he really wants, and Karen an author and hermit who has barely left her apartment in 10 years preferring to wallow in her own mind. Harold needs looseness in his life and Karen needs grounding, which are provided by Ana and Penny respectively. Also Harold and Penny are both relatively humourless no-nonsense aides, assigned to unorthodox individuals who don't want them or feel the need for them at all. Also Karen's apartment is shot only in very wide, oblique angles with either severe top-down shots that dwarf the characters or closeups that make the apartment itself (helped by it's sparse furniture) look enormous. This serves to create a strong visual metaphor - when Harold first goes to meet her, he sees a black door give way to an initially infinite-seeming white space while he goes to meet his literal maker. All this brings to mind classical interpretations of Heaven, with Karen filling the Role of God and Penny the role of St Peter, the gatekeeper.
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