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I was figuring he was Alan Scott or Hourman or some other JSA person, but I couldn't figure out why he would have the helmet on. This led me to the obvious answer. It's Xorn.
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Madkal posted:I was figuring he was Alan Scott or Hourman or some other JSA person, but I couldn't figure out why he would have the helmet on. This led me to the obvious answer. It's Xorn. Xorn, or Xorn?
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Feb 18, 2016 02:30
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Gaz-L posted:Xorn, or Xorn? Joseph.
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Feb 18, 2016 02:45
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Magneto got high of sentient mutant coke and killed Jean!
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Feb 18, 2016 02:59
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I'm going to miss Agent Carter now it's practically The Avengers set in the 40s. Awesome lady and dapper posh chap taking on mad super-science nutters, splendid.
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Sentinel Red posted:I'm going to miss Agent Carter now it's practically The Avengers set in the 40s. Awesome lady and dapper posh chap taking on mad super-science nutters, splendid. The two hour episode was amazing. Can't wait for next weeks!
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Feb 18, 2016 16:11
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If you ever watch / rewatch Arrow you can make a good drinking game from how often Ollie fails to mention that his dad shot a random crewmember before committing suicide. And then skol the loving bottle if the show actually remembers.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:25
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Let's just assume that other boat guy was on the list.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:41
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Am I remembering incorrectly or didn't Snart totally kill someone he was working with during his first episode on The Flash?
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Feb 19, 2016 03:22
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ToastyPotato posted:Am I remembering incorrectly or didn't Snart totally kill someone he was working with during his first episode on The Flash? Yup, and it was relatively unnecessary too.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:27
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ToastyPotato posted:Am I remembering incorrectly or didn't Snart totally kill someone he was working with during his first episode on The Flash? He killed someone he was working with and also killed a random civilian (just to see how fast the Flash was).
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Feb 19, 2016 03:33
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Barry's body count is about as high so...
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Feb 19, 2016 03:36
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ToastyPotato posted:Am I remembering incorrectly or didn't Snart totally kill someone he was working with during his first episode on The Flash? Yes, but he also notes it's not his usual style because it draws extra heat, and in a later episode agrees to not kill anyone in exchange for Barry just taking him to the regular cops when he's caught and not just killing him or throwing him in their private gulag.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:42
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Gaz-L posted:Yes, but he also notes it's not his usual style because it draws extra heat, and in a later episode agrees to not kill anyone in exchange for Barry just taking him to the regular cops when he's caught and not just killing him or throwing him in their private gulag. I think calling Flash Jail a gulag is a pretty strong euphemism considering gulag prisoners got to go outside, in theory could be released one day, there was a chance you could learn your loved one was sentenced to a gulag instead of just losing them one day, etc. Flash Jail is like 24/7 solitary confinement blacksite funland.
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Ok cool. I was just wondering since they made it a point to give Snart the sanctimonious line about how he never iced one of his own and I was like, "uh, you totally killed one of your own before. You killed people in general without blinking." I'd like to think of the line (and this show) as a retconning of his character, but I don't think TV works that way so oh well.
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ToastyPotato posted:Ok cool. I was just wondering since they made it a point to give Snart the sanctimonious line about how he never iced one of his own and I was like, "uh, you totally killed one of your own before. You killed people in general without blinking." I'd like to think of the line (and this show) as a retconning of his character, but I don't think TV works that way so oh well. Maybe by changing how his father went to prison it was like the butterfly effect and now he never killed that guy?
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Yeah he really kills that dude for no reason. Guy brings him two kickass weapons and tells him how to use them and the gets killed. That was only in that episode though, his characterization has been different since then.
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Feb 19, 2016 04:07
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Technically not a member of his crew but a vendor really
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Am I missing something or didn't he kill a random innocent civilian too? He was robbing something and froze some civilian just to distract the Flash and see if he could save him.
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Feb 19, 2016 04:16
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Well it was a security guard not technically a civilian.
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Sentinel Red posted:I'm going to miss Agent Carter now it's practically The Avengers set in the 40s. Awesome lady and dapper posh chap taking on mad super-science nutters, splendid. Do the ratings still suck? I'm worried we won't get a season 3.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Do the ratings still suck? I'm worried we won't get a season 3. Hayley Atwell signed onto some other show which is probably a bigger factor than the ratings
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It does about half of what the Flash does on the same night, which is pretty bad for an ABC show. Tuesday is a really weak night for ABC anyway, but it's doing significantly worse than last season which was already a renewal that didn't make business sense. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Oh yeah, I forgot to give my final thoughts on Jessica Jones. "Oh no, Luke Cage got shot!" is not a good cliffhanger, y'all. Also I really thought making Jessica immune to Purple Man's powers really deflated the hell out of the last stretch of the show, even though he was still an obvious threat. It was no longer "We gotta figure out a way to stop him or get him to confess without getting controlled." and more "He has to be in the same room and not holding a hostage." The fact that they felt the need to boost Purple Man's power level (which really doesn't go anywhere significant) is proof that they realized they'd deflated the tension too much. I'm also gonna be a nerd and complain that they didn't use the upgrade as an opportunity to turn him completely purple, or at least make his purpley veins way more prominent. Overall I still really enjoyed the hell out of it and am looking forward to season 2.
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Jessica Jones was decent and enjoyable, but it also highlighted the difference in philosophy between Marvel TV and DC TV. Marvel TV, unlike Marvel Studios and DC in general, seems to be ashamed of being comic related a lot of the time, and goes out of its way to "de-comic" itself whenever it can. Daredevil was the best so far, and season 2 could easily be better. SHIELD is still a mess though it is far better than it was before. It isn't surprising to me that their most popular non-movie project to date was the one based on an actual superhero (Daredevil.) Agent Carter really is a victim in all of this, because the show is fine and the cast is magnificent, but I think the demographics have already figured any TV show with Marvel in front isn't likely to give them what they want, which is why twice as many are watching Flash and other DC shows instead.
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ToastyPotato posted:Jessica Jones was decent and enjoyable, but it also highlighted the difference in philosophy between Marvel TV and DC TV. Marvel TV, unlike Marvel Studios and DC in general, seems to be ashamed of being comic related a lot of the time, I'm sorry, have you not heard of this show called Arrow?
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sorry, have you not heard of this show called Arrow? The first season definitely downplayed a lot and tried to Nolan-ize everything , but the show has gone full comic book since pretty much season 2, and definitely since season 3 and the Flash starting.
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Lurdiak posted:Oh yeah, I forgot to give my final thoughts on Jessica Jones. Well she was immune in the comics as well, it was just via Jean Grey post hypnotic suggestion. Lurdiak posted:I'm sorry, have you not heard of this show called Arrow? Lol at impugning the comic bookness of the WB DC shows.
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ToastyPotato posted:The first season definitely downplayed a lot and tried to Nolan-ize everything , but the show has gone full comic book since pretty much season 2, and definitely since season 3 and the Flash starting. Fine, can I bring up Smallville? Cuz I feel like Smallville should put DC in the bad pseudo-realism box for at least another five years.
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ToastyPotato posted:Jessica Jones was decent and enjoyable, but it also highlighted the difference in philosophy between Marvel TV and DC TV. Marvel TV, unlike Marvel Studios and DC in general, seems to be ashamed of being comic related a lot of the time, and goes out of its way to "de-comic" itself whenever it can. Daredevil was the best so far, and season 2 could easily be better. SHIELD is still a mess though it is far better than it was before. Both Daredevil and JJ are exceedingly faithful to the comics though, they just so happens to be comics that aren't like other superhero comics.
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Lurdiak posted:Fine, can I bring up Smallville? Cuz I feel like Smallville should put DC in the bad pseudo-realism box for at least another five years. The last few seasons of Smallville had the JLA and the JSA, and Blue Beetle and Booster Gold. It all sucked but they went with it.
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ToastyPotato posted:SHIELD is still a mess though it is far better than it was before. SHIELD is the best comic show on TV.
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Lurdiak posted:Fine, can I bring up Smallville? Cuz I feel like Smallville should put DC in the bad pseudo-realism box for at least another five years. The last half of Smallville was super comic bookish, and definitely more so than most Marvel TV entries so far. It was just laughable in quality. Hakkesshu posted:Both Daredevil and JJ are exceedingly faithful to the comics though, they just so happens to be comics that aren't like other superhero comics. JJ removed a lot of comic bookish elements in favor of isolating the character and making things less fantastical. Thankfully the show was still good because the story was good, but it did try to make things "realistic" relative to comics. DD was straight forward and pretty comic booky (but the character is pretty straight forward in general), which is probably why it was so successful an well liked. Little Mac posted:SHIELD is the best comic show on TV. Agent Carter is better at doing what SHIELD has tried to do. Much better. ToastyPotato fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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I like Shield a lot. I'd hardly say it's a mess, it has clear story direction, distinct characters with different motivations and good chemistry, and interesting narrative twists. It's definitely smaller in Schott than it tries to be, but I look forward to the adventures of Coulson and Crew more than the others each week (except Peggy Carter which I like even more).
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ToastyPotato posted:JJ removed a lot of comic bookish elements in favor of isolating the character and making things less fantastical. Thankfully the show was still good because the story was good, but it did try to make things "realistic" relative to comics. DD was straight forward and pretty comic booky (but the character is pretty straight forward in general), which is probably why it was so successful an well liked. The only major stylistic change I can think of was the colour of Purple Man, which is not really a big deal. Obviously Carol Danvers and Cap and Rick Jones don't show up, but for instance the way they handled Nuke on the show is arguably more comic book-y and fantastical than most of the actual comic itself. Edit: Hell, even Purple Man, with all the science experiment stuff to explain his backstory, all that stuff is super comic book-y and also not present in the comic. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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I read somewhere else regarding Legends of Tomorrow, Vandal Savage should have been played by Jonathan Frakes, and goddamn that would have been perfect. He wouldn't make a great Savage for every incarnation, but as a modern-era, LoT interpretation, he would be killing it.
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greatn posted:I like Shield a lot. I'd hardly say it's a mess, it has clear story direction, distinct characters with different motivations and good chemistry, and interesting narrative twists. It's definitely smaller in Schott than it tries to be, but I look forward to the adventures of Coulson and Crew more than the others each week (except Peggy Carter which I like even more). Mess is probably the wrong word. I think the SHIELD writers get in over their heads some times, trying to make the stories seem super big and important, while constantly reminding the audience that this is toooootally a part of the MCU guys, we swear! I think Agent Carter and the Netflix shows shine (quality wise) because their stories are much more contained and focused on tighter, more local stories. SHIELD desperately wants to be about world level threats and events and it probably shouldn't, given that they don't have a seat at the grown up table and probably never will, without a shift in philosophy and structure at Marvel/Disney. That said, I obviously still enjoy watching the show and hope it continues improving.
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ToastyPotato posted:Mess is probably the wrong word. I think the SHIELD writers get in over their heads some times, trying to make the stories seem super big and important, while constantly reminding the audience that this is toooootally a part of the MCU guys, we swear! I think Agent Carter and the Netflix shows shine (quality wise) because their stories are much more contained and focused on tighter, more local stories. SHIELD desperately wants to be about world level threats and events and it probably shouldn't, given that they don't have a seat at the grown up table and probably never will, without a shift in philosophy and structure at Marvel/Disney. This reads as weird criticism to me since its basically just you projecting stuff onto the show, rather than criticism of the show's content itself. I also can't recall any gratuitous "we're in the MCU reminders" since early season one, which everyone agrees was pretty poor.
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mikeraskol posted:This reads as weird criticism to me since its basically just you projecting stuff onto the show, rather than criticism of the show's content itself. I also can't recall any gratuitous "we're in the MCU reminders" since early season one, which everyone agrees was pretty poor.
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Hydra is explicitly an organization with tons of cells and the arch rival organization of Shield. If anything it's weird the movies keep using them in like Avengers 2 and Ant-Man. For the former I think Hydra s kinda beneath them at this point and for the latter it feels like the writers went "Whelp, how else can we show this antagonist is a bad guy, any ideas?"
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