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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:Definitely one of the bad guys. Yeah, this and the Chilean coup d'etat certainly justify some anti-American sentiment
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Terrible Opinions posted:I have to assume that at some point the US, Italy, Belgium, and Russia all took bets on who could gently caress up other previously functional nations the hardest. The winner was of course the UK.
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Are there any good books about operation Gladio? I know bits and pieces I've read and there seems to be a fair amount of bullshit in the mix quite often so it'd be good to find out the facts of it since stuff like that interests the hell out of me. Just found a decent BBC documentary so maybe this will scratch the itch. Krypt-OOO-Nite!! has a new favorite as of 18:52 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:Are there any good books about operation Gladio? I've got this one, which is pretty authoritative: http://www.amazon.com/NATOs-Secret-Armies-Operation-Contemporary/dp/0714656070 It's very scholarly and dry though: quite a heavy-going read, filled with acronyms but exhaustively detailed. If you want to know the ins-and-outs of who did what, and where, and when, it's the book to get. e; it's quite expensive though!
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wootsie posted:What? Is this deliberate, like at the end of Astroboy? Or due to lovely research? I think it's due to lovely research but it's so consistent that I'm not 100% on that
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Harold Stassen posted:Amelia Earhart is another such case. Basically anything involving civil aviation in the pre-GPS days has the potential for terror. A big theory on Earhart is that, if she crashed on land, that her (hopefully) dead and scattered or, worse, still-alive body was eaten by buff rear end, overgrown hermit crabs. As someone currently living in Diego Garcia (in itself source of hysterically inflated and wildly misinformed rumors), I'm surrounded by these big weird looking loving crustaceans and I can see them doing short work on a body in no time. The rest of the plane, not so much, though.
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Some Wikipedia short takes. (Waiting on my car to get service.) CIA agent doesn't recieve a hoped-for promotion, snaps and kills family, is still at large: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Bishop Australian man kills family via electrocution, still at large: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_family_murder 4-year-old goes missing, is found, "kidnapper" insists the boy is his, court returns child to family...child grows up, marries, has kids, dies peacefully, yet a DNA test proves he isn't the missing child: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Bobby_Dunbar Infamous golden age pirate manages to escape his notoriety and disappear: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Every Foster child in Florida goes missing, authorities don't bother to check up on it until two years after her disappearance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rilya_Wilson
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AlbieQuirky posted:The winner was of course the UK. It all depends on whether or not Italy gets points for the cattle plague they caused in Africa.
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Wild T posted:A big theory on Earhart is that, if she crashed on land, that her (hopefully) dead and scattered or, worse, still-alive body was eaten by buff rear end, overgrown hermit crabs. As someone currently living in Diego Garcia (in itself source of hysterically inflated and wildly misinformed rumors), I'm surrounded by these big weird looking loving crustaceans and I can see them doing short work on a body in no time. The rest of the plane, not so much, though. Dad-a-chum? Dum-a-chum? Ded-a-chek? Did-a-chick?
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queserasera posted:4-year-old goes missing, is found, "kidnapper" insists the boy is his, court returns child to family...child grows up, marries, has kids, dies peacefully, yet a DNA test proves he isn't the missing child: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Bobby_Dunbar Another case of parents being returned the wrong child. Walter Collins was abducted from his home in 1928. Months later "Walter" found in Illinois and was returned to his mother Christine who knew that this wasn't her son and told to "try him out for a couple of weeks."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Susan_Powell A complete clusterfuck of a case. Woman in troubled marriage goes missing, police quickly zero in on the husband, Josh Powell, as a person of interest. Despite suspicious behavior and finding child porn drawings on Powell's computer, authorities allow him to continue having scheduled visits with his young sons. During one such visit at the house Powell grabs his kids and refuses to let the social worker in. House explodes, Powell and sons die in a murder-suicide. In addition to that, Powell's father turns out to be photographing various girls and women without their knowledge, including his own son's wife. He also stole her underwear, masturbated with it, and watched her under the bathroom door using a mirror. He's currently in prison for voyeurism and child porn charges, and authorities believe he aided or at least knows what his son did to his wife. On top of that, a year after the house explosion, Josh Powell's brother commits suicide. He had been questioned after abandoning his car in a junkyard soon after his sister-in-law's disappearance. Authorities now believe he helped his brother murder his wife.
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7 siblings kept locked in a 4 bedroom New York apartment for over 14 years because their father feared the outside world would corrupt them. A lady befriended the siblings shortly after one snuck out and paved the way for the rest to venture outside their home. She made a documentary on them called The Wolfpack that's showing this year at Sundance. Before they were able to make their way out, they learned everything about the world from movies and spent most of their free time re-enacting them. It creeps me out there are real life cases of Dogtooth going on out there.
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Duke of Flies posted:7 siblings kept locked in a 4 bedroom New York apartment for over 14 years because their father feared the outside world would corrupt them. That documentary was interesting but super depressing. The dad was a controlling megalomaniac and you just want to strangle him throughout. When one of the older kids sneaks out for the first time by himself he's so poorly socialized he wears a homemade monster mask and freaks people out so bad he gets the cops called on him and arrested in like half an hour. It's cool that they get a lot more outgoing and are granted more freedom as the movie goes on but there's still something super sad about them all going out together for valentine's day for their first in - theater movie and acting like they're going on dates for the first time or something. At least they were genuinely stoked about it Also I think it actually showed last year at Sundance cause it was out in netflix months ago Aesop Poprock has a new favorite as of 03:31 on Feb 20, 2016 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:That documentary was interesting but super depressing. The dad was a controlling megalomaniac and you just want to strangle him throughout. When one of the older kids sneaks out for the first time by himself he's so poorly socialized he wears a homemade monster mask and freaks people out so bad he gets the cops called on him and arrested in like half an hour. Oh dang! I didn't look at the dates of the article. You are correct! Now I'm glad for it because it means I can watch it rather than wait for it to hit Netflix/DVD like I thought I'd have to. I just wish I knew what made people like their dad and all other cases of people who trap their families think this is a fine idea. What makes you so bizarrely selfish and controlling of other human beings to the point you basically jail them? EDIT: Just checked and it's still on Netflix. Nice.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Dad-a-chum? Dum-a-chum? Ded-a-chek? Did-a-chick?  By far the creepiest thing in that whole series.
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The Ape of Naples posted:Not unnerving but related. And kinda amusing. LOL. Seven minutes in and the "former satanist" takes us on a tour of a park used only by "satanists and homosexuals" and by golly locates evidence of satanic activity right away!
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Zero One posted:LOL. Seven minutes in and the "former satanist" takes us on a tour of a park used only by "satanists and homosexuals" and by golly locates evidence of satanic activity right away! when you get to the list of signs the child is being abused? shut it off. that's where it gets Real, like fifteen solid minutes of actual signs a child is being sexually abused. i streamed this for people one night and man that sucked the joy out fast
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Literally The Worst posted:when you get to the list of signs the child is being abused? shut it off. that's where it gets Real, like fifteen solid minutes of actual signs a child is being sexually abused. i streamed this for people one night and man that sucked the joy out fast Yeah but it is a video aimed at police. You'd hope they would be trained to know those things.
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queserasera posted:4-year-old goes missing, is found, "kidnapper" insists the boy is his, court returns child to family...child grows up, marries, has kids, dies peacefully, yet a DNA test proves he isn't the missing child: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Bobby_Dunbar Frederic Bourdain- assumes the identity of a long-missing child. The family is only too eager to "adopt" him- why? They seemed to know he wasn't who he said he was- why did they go along with it? What happened to the kid he replaced?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imposter_(2012_film)
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My Favorite Murder is a new podcast that's 5 episodes in, and it's pretty great if you're into dark humor. If you want something that's really expert and in-depth, this is not that. The hosts are Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Karen is a very accomplished comedian/writer/musician, and Georgia has a Cooking Channel show I've never seen, but she's funny too. It's probably the weirdest podcast I've listened to. They mostly just creep each other out with their stories, and admit that they're probably terrible people for "loving murder." Somehow it manages to not be a huge bummer, with the possible exception of the last episode skewing a little dark when they talk about the Freeway Killers and William Bonin.
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Harold Stassen posted:Frederic Bourdain- assumes the identity of a long-missing child. The family is only too eager to "adopt" him- why? They seemed to know he wasn't who he said he was- why did they go along with it? What happened to the kid he replaced? Wikipedia posted:Roger Tichborne, heir to [a baronetcy and the money attached to it], was presumed to have died in a shipwreck in 1854. His mother clung to a belief that he might have survived, and after hearing rumours that he had made his way to Australia, she advertised extensively in Australian newspapers, offering a reward for information. In 1866, a butcher known as Thomas Castro from Wagga Wagga came forward claiming to be Roger Tichborne. Although his manners and bearing were unrefined, he gathered support and travelled to England. He was instantly accepted by Lady Tichborne as her son, although other family members were dismissive and sought to expose him as an impostor. After she died, he sued for the title, resulting in a civil trial followed by a criminal trial. Neither worked out well for him. Fascinating case.
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Harold Stassen posted:Harold Holt, the sitting Australian PM who went for a swim within sight of his friends and disappeared forever without a trace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt_Memorial_Swimming_Centre
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Travis343 posted:This is right next door to the JFK Memorial "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Oswald was a fag."
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenatchee_child_abuse_prosecutions I had never heard of this case, apologies if it's old news. I was familiar with all of the "satanic panic" cases, but this one is different.
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Harold Stassen posted:Harold Holt, the sitting Australian PM who went for a swim within sight of his friends and disappeared forever without a trace http://harold-holt.net/
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Not really scary or super unnerving, but kind of a cool story local to my area are the Moodus Noises. Moodus is a small, out of the way village in the town of east haddam, and for many centuries has been locally famous for the odd, loud, groaning sounds occasionally coming out of the woods. Native Americans attributed them to an evil spirit, and they were pretty mysterious until recent years when it was finally confirmed (I believe) to be geologic activity/ small earthquakes. I didn't grow up locally but people from Moodus have a reputation for being kind of odd among residents of the other local towns along the river.
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Haroldholt.net posted:I have Invoked the 2nd Law of the Universe here in Australia to have all accountable for illegal technology on Australian soil and here on Planet Earth and for violating the Laws of Creation. As shown in my CT-Scan, illegal technology is being used on Planet Earth and this illegal technology had been placed in me against my freewill and consent, when I was under the legal adult age of consent (then 21 years old) during the period when I was a Navy Clearance Diver involved in several clandestine acts, as stated in my Affidavit of 11/11/99. Anthrovore posted:Not really scary or super unnerving, but kind of a cool story local to my area are the Moodus Noises. Moodus is a small, out of the way village in the town of east haddam, and for many centuries has been locally famous for the odd, loud, groaning sounds occasionally coming out of the woods. Native Americans attributed them to an evil spirit, and they were pretty mysterious until recent years when it was finally confirmed (I believe) to be geologic activity/ small earthquakes. I didn't grow up locally but people from Moodus have a reputation for being kind of odd among residents of the other local towns along the river. I read an article recently that said that the Taos hum, Bristol hum and some other anomalous noises on land are caused by micro-vibrations on the ocean floor. I'll add it here later when I find it because not a lot else makes sense, but essentially it's a seismic reaction that resonates in sound.
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I've read some books mentioned in this thread (Columbine, Command and Control etc) and they've been really good. Can someone recommend more well researched books about unnerving stuff?
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Pingiivi posted:I've read some books mentioned in this thread (Columbine, Command and Control etc) and they've been really good. Can someone recommend more well researched books about unnerving stuff? Devil in the White City is very good.
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Pingiivi posted:I've read some books mentioned in this thread (Columbine, Command and Control etc) and they've been really good. Can someone recommend more well researched books about unnerving stuff? A totally different type of unnerving, but one of my all-time favorite books is Spillover by David Quammen. Infinitely better science than the pulpy (and much more popular  ) The Hot Zone.
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queserasera posted:Foster child in Florida goes missing, authorities don't bother to check up on it until two years after her disappearance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rilya_Wilson I remember hearing about Rilya some 15 years ago when she was one of the possible identities for Precious Doe (another sad story. The facial reconstruction pictures of her were posted in my school bus for a long time. It was a relief to finally know who she was, this little girl that I saw every day). Her name is an acronym for "Remember I Love You Always"
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13Pandora13 posted:A totally different type of unnerving, but one of my all-time favorite books is Spillover by David Quammen. Infinitely better science than the pulpy (and much more popular I've read that one, seconding the recommendation.
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Some books from goon-dom that worked out; The Monster of Florence about killings in Italy, The Lost City of Z: A Tale of Deadly Obsession in the Amazon about old time archaeology, and A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments about...well, CIA stuff.
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Anthrovore posted:Not really scary or super unnerving, but kind of a cool story local to my area are the Moodus Noises. Moodus is a small, out of the way village in the town of east haddam, and for many centuries has been locally famous for the odd, loud, groaning sounds occasionally coming out of the woods. Native Americans attributed them to an evil spirit, and they were pretty mysterious until recent years when it was finally confirmed (I believe) to be geologic activity/ small earthquakes. I didn't grow up locally but people from Moodus have a reputation for being kind of odd among residents of the other local towns along the river. quote:The local high school's athletic teams are dubbed the "Noises". Let's go, Noises, let's go! Yaaaaaaaaaay, Noises!!!
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Erghh posted:Some books from goon-dom that worked out; The Monster of Florence about killings in Italy
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Erghh posted:Some books from goon-dom that worked out; The Monster of Florence about killings in Italy, The Lost City of Z: A Tale of Deadly Obsession in the Amazon about old time archaeology, and A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments about...well, CIA stuff. The Lost City of Z is being made into a movie with Charlie Hunnam. i think it's in post-production already.
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