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I love that the abreviation for your currency is Bs. It's certainly living up to its name.
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fishmech posted:Sounds kinda like South Korea - the Won there is about 1300 KRW to a USD (and has been for years), but the biggest note you could get til 2009 was 10,000. And for whatever reason a lot of shops would "strongly prefer" paying in cash for large purchases. China is similar. The USD is ~6.3 RMB but the largest note size they make is 100 RMB. Fortunately everything is dirt cheap there outside of airplane tickets (the largest single purchase I made was ~13 USD, and hotels are ~20 USD/night).
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Chuck Boone posted:What's the maximum amount of Bs. you're allowed to withdraw from an ATM? Depends on the bank, mine's 6k. Most banks also refuse to let you cash checks over a certain amount which varies depending on whatever they feel like it that day.
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Feb 19, 2016 17:07
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So how many ATMs just get bodily hauled away and sawed open on a daily basis?
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Feb 19, 2016 17:30
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National Assembly deputy Julio Borges said just a little while ago that he would support Henrique Capriles' plan to get a recall referendum going against Maduro. It's not clear if this is the opposition's official stance on getting Maduro out of office, but Borges' statement makes it seem like it is. If the opposition does decide to go ahead with a recall referendum, there's good reason to believe that it will happen this year. If Maduro is recalled before January 10, 2017, the President of the National Assembly (Henry Ramos Allup) would become President of Venezuela until the electoral council calls for an election. If the recall referendum happens after January 10, 2017, then the vice-president (Aristobulo Isturiz) becomes President of Venezuela until the end of the presidential term, which is in 2019. I doubt the opposition wants to have the PSUV at the helm until then, so if this recall is going to happen, it's going to happen this year. Cue the Supreme Court and the National Electoral Council working their magic to delay this for as long as possible. -Troika- posted:So how many ATMs just get bodily hauled away and sawed open on a daily basis? I'm not sure, but I don't think the trouble would be worth it. The highest denomination bill is Bs. 100. Back in October, a hot dog from a street vendor in Caracas cost Bs. 90. I'd imagine that the amount of money in a typical ATM doesn't really afford you all that much. I do remember reading an article last year that claimed that the Central Bank was planning to start printing Bs. 500 bills some time this year, but I don't think that has happened.
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-Troika- posted:So how many ATMs just get bodily hauled away and sawed open on a daily basis? Very few, it's both not worth it, and most ATMs are the type that is fixed on a wall, not the big machines you see in the US. Your total haul would be significantly less than $1000. Chuck Boone posted:What's the maximum amount of Bs. you're allowed to withdraw from an ATM? Per transaction, if the ATM is not from your bank it's 600 Bs., the daily total is pretty big, but that means that you have to do from 5 to 10 withdrawals to reach the daily limit. Chuck Boone posted:National Assembly deputy Julio Borges said just a little while ago that he would support Henrique Capriles' plan to get a recall referendum going against Maduro. It's not clear if this is the opposition's official stance on getting Maduro out of office, but Borges' statement makes it seem like it is. It is to my understanding that the opposition is indeed going to do both a constitutional amendment and a recall referendum, ASAP, to get rid of Maduro and the TSJ and hopefully reestablish institutional order in the country.
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Chuck Boone posted:If the opposition does decide to go ahead with a recall referendum, there's good reason to believe that it will happen this year. If Maduro is recalled before January 10, 2017, the President of the National Assembly (Henry Ramos Allup) would become President of Venezuela until the electoral council calls for an election. If the recall referendum happens after January 10, 2017, then the vice-president (Aristobulo Isturiz) becomes President of Venezuela until the end of the presidential term, which is in 2019. I doubt the opposition wants to have the PSUV at the helm until then, so if this recall is going to happen, it's going to happen this year. Well, poo poo. If you'd told me a couple of years ago that Allup might end up being interim president I would've assumed you were high as hell. Today, Allup also floated the possibility that the assembly could declare Maduro has "abandoned" his post due to failing to fulfill his constitutional duties. If they go through with this, all they would need would be a simple majority to pass the motion and Allup would serve as interim president until the electoral council called for new elections, which should be within 30 days. The question is, if this was always an option why wasn't it presented to the public earlier? Naturally, one would think it was discarded since it seems to be quite a stretch and the government could find a thousand ways to circumvent it. If there's some sort of agreement taking form in the background across government and opposition to get Maduro out as fast as possible through legal means, why not simply have him resign personally?
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Feb 19, 2016 19:41
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Chuck Boone posted:
That reminds me one of the PSUV's candidates for the AN said, about the medicine scarcity: "we just need to plant our Acetaminophen plant then brew a tea for our kids". http://www.eltiempo.com/mundo/latinoamerica/chavista-propone-sembrar-maticas-de-acetaminofen/15921096
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In the midst of all the dire news at least Venezuela's true revolutionaries are stepping up. http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11861 quote:Caracas, February 19th 2016 (venezuelanalysis.com) - Protesters in working class western Caracas hijacked trucks belonging to Venezuela’s number one private food chain, Polar, this Thursday, demanding that the company cease hoarding essential goods.
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Feb 19, 2016 23:41
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Oh hey it's Borneo Jimmy, back from GBS. (no one there likes him either  )
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Feb 19, 2016 23:46
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Borneo Jimmy posted:In the midst of all the dire news at least Venezuela's true revolutionaries are stepping up. This is all a big joke to you huh? gently caress you
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Feb 19, 2016 23:48
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El Hefe posted:This is all a big joke to you huh? gently caress you What joke? I think well all can agree it's good that protesters are striking back at companies engaged in criminal activities and I hope we see more direct action of this kind.
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Borneo Jimmy posted:What joke? I think well all can agree it's good that protesters are striking back at companies engaged in criminal activities and I hope we see more direct action of this kind. You have brain problems, friend.
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Feb 19, 2016 23:55
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Borneo Jimmy posted:What joke? I think well all can agree it's good that protesters are striking back at companies engaged in criminal activities and I hope we see more direct action of this kind. The government controls the entire loving food distribution chain. Maduro recently fired all of the managers of Abastos Bicentenarios, which are government controlled super markets because of corruption, but the fault is somehow in Polar, the one company that is still producing food in the entire country? You know they could just pack up and leave at any time since Polar started expanding into the rest of Latin America and they're operating at a loss here, yet they choose not to because they know the damage they'll cause to the people? Same with the Coca Cola, same with PepsiCo, same with Kellogg's? Motherfucker do you want to come down here and experience this poo poo yourself? I'll gladly give you the tour.
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Feb 20, 2016 00:01
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If Polar cares so much for the Venezuelan people as you argue, then what about the numerous times they've been exposed engaging in food hoarding by whistle-blowers?
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Feb 20, 2016 00:05
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Borneo Jimmy please stop posting things
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Feb 20, 2016 00:19
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Borneo Jimmy also thought people turning to subsistence farming was a good sign (its's collective!) Once the revolutionary tribunals have liquidated all the Kulaks, prosperity will return.
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Minister of Electrical Energy Luis Motta Dominguez said just a few minutes ago that El Nińo *cough* and 17 years of infrastructure neglect *cough* have taken such a toll on the country's electrical system that it could completely collapse as early as April. Dominguez called on Venezuelans to practice "conscientious, rational and efficient use of electrical energy", probably because that's the only measure that can be taken at this point. Malls are still operating on shorter hours. fnox posted:It is to my understanding that the opposition is indeed going to do both a constitutional amendment and a recall referendum, ASAP, to get rid of Maduro and the TSJ and hopefully reestablish institutional order in the country. The battle between the National Assembly, the TSJ and the CNE (the electoral body) is going to be intense this year. A bunch of PSUV deputies (Cabello, Carreńo) have already come out a bunch of times and just straight up said that this law or that law won't make it past the TSJ as if it's a given fact. I mean, it is, but they're not even pretending that there's an independent judiciary at this point. JeffersonClay posted:Borneo Jimmy also thought people turning to subsistence farming was a good sign (its's collective!) That is a good thing! Here, let me prove it to you: posts link to media outlet owned by the PSUV
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Feb 20, 2016 00:48
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Borneo Jimmy posted:What joke? I think well all can agree it's good that protesters are striking back at companies engaged in criminal activities and I hope we see more direct action of this kind. Taking truck drivers hostage and stealing their cargo isn't revolutionary, Jimmy: its communist.
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Feb 20, 2016 03:07
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JeffersonClay posted:Borneo Jimmy also thought people turning to subsistence farming was a good sign (its's collective!) Once the revolutionary tribunals have liquidated all the Kulaks, prosperity will return. Small-scale farming can be used to supplement food provision in a population of povert. What small-scale farming cannot do is meet the caloric demand of dense urban centers; while it may be able to meet caloric demand on the margins, such as for "organic" produce, it in no way can meet the baseline caloric needs of Venezuela's urban populations.
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Feb 20, 2016 03:11
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My Imaginary GF posted:Taking truck drivers hostage and stealing their cargo isn't revolutionary, Jimmy: its communist. Is this like when a person accidentally manages to get two bots to start interacting on Twitter?
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Feb 20, 2016 04:24
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Borneo Jimmy please never go to Venezuela, we don't need another Malcolm Caldwell.
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Feb 20, 2016 04:30
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On the contrary, Borneo Jimmy, go to Venezuela, and quickly.
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Feb 20, 2016 06:15
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That guy's name is Aristobulo? That's wonderful. Are there other names this awesome? I remember there was a dude with an Arabic name too? (Also, Allup's name, is that pronounced like Ayup?)
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ecureuilmatrix posted:That guy's name is Aristobulo? That's wonderful. Are there other names this awesome? I remember there was a dude with an Arabic name too? Venezuelans are kinda famous for their names, yes. As for Allup, both Alup and Ayup are common pronunciations. It's a Lebanese name, so there isn't really a clear-cut "correct" Spanish pronunciation.
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beer_war posted:Venezuelans are kinda famous for their names, yes. quote:Some parents relish the challenge. Gilberto Vargas named his daughters, ages 10, 7, 4 and 2, Yusmary Shuain, Yusmery Sailing, Yusneidi Alicia and Yureimi Klaymar. His sons, one 9 years old and the other 9 months, are Kleiderman Jesús and Kleiderson Klarth. Kleiderson Klarth 
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These are the names of some of the candidates that ran in the December 6 parliamentary elections last year: Mairalbert Barrios, Zulay Aguirre, Stalin Gonzalez, Genkerve Tovar, Yamelis Herrera, Anniany Tigrera, Leybys Barrientos, Lesbia Castellano, Blagdimir Labrador, Bussy Galeano, Bozo Marco, and Loengri Matheu. All 100% real, living human beings.
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Chuck Boone posted:Blagdimir Labrador Holy crap.
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El Impulso is a newspaper out of Barquisimeto, Lara state, which is a city with a population of about one million people. Today, the paper published a video on its YouTube page in which it interviews a pharmacist in the city about the ongoing medicine shortage. The video also shows testimony from a shopper who talks about his experiences trying to find medicine in Barquisimeto. Here's the video, and my translation is below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avlBtJT9FG8 quote:Text: Barquisimeto residents hunting down medicine
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Feb 21, 2016 01:18
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Borneo Jimmy posted:If Polar cares so much for the Venezuelan people as you argue, then what about the numerous times they've been exposed engaging in food hoarding by whistle-blowers? Why would they hoard food? They don't control the prices, and they are the sole producer of corn flour, a fundamental foodstuff of the country's dietary plan, because government owned companies that supposedly manufacture corn flour don't actually produce anything. I want you to find testimony of one loving Venezuelan buying corn flour that isn't branded "Harina PAN", AKA the kind that Polar produces. How come the food just happens to run out right now during Maduro's presidency when there was plenty back then when nothing was intervened and regulated? What about the loving medicines, Borneo Jimmy, you're gonna tell me that the pharmacies are hiding them just so people loving die?
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fnox posted:What about the loving medicines, Borneo Jimmy, you're gonna tell me that the pharmacies are hiding them just so people loving die? That's a rhetorical question right? Because Jimmy ain't gonna say anything to refute you, and he'll just be back in a week or two to pull down his pants and drop another little nugget of PSUV wisdom for all to see. And people will challenge him on it as if he wasn't a troll. Every time.
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fnox posted:Why would they hoard food? They don't control the prices, and they are the sole producer of corn flour, a fundamental foodstuff of the country's dietary plan, because government owned companies that supposedly manufacture corn flour don't actually produce anything. I want you to find testimony of one loving Venezuelan buying corn flour that isn't branded "Harina PAN", AKA the kind that Polar produces. It's called economic sabotage to force a change in government. Remember that the president of Polar has already been caught was caught discussing ways to overthrow the PSUV. Of course right wing businessmen are okay with people dying.
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There's a fairly famous reggeaton duo called "Chino y Nacho" out of Caracas. They've been around for a few years, and they're famous enough that I know about them even though I don't keep up with North American - nevermind Venezuelan - pop culture. Anyway, Nacho (whose real name is Miguel Ignacio Mendoza) gave a speech at the National Assembly last week in commemoration of Youth Day. Nacho's speech made headlines across the country not only because it'd be the equivalent of Drake speaking at our Parliament here in Ottawa, but also because he was extremely critical of the PSUV. In general, he criticized PSUV officials who in public appeal to socialist values, but actually live in luxury. Nacho said: quote:No one told me that government officials had homes in Aruba and the Dominican Republic. I’ve seen them. I’ve been with them (…) I’ve seen them wearing $1,500 shoes. Yes, I wear the same ones, but I earned them [through my singing career]. His whole speech is interesting and I'll try my best to translate it tomorrow. Anyway, the day after he gave the speech, Nacho said that at least three agents from the Venezuelan secret police (SEBIN) had him under surveillance. Nacho made it clear that he was absolutely sure that the harassment he was becoming victim to was in retribution for the speech at the National Assembly. Earlier this afternoon, Nacho arrived from Miami to perform at a concert (in Caracas, I believe). Nacho was detained by SEBIN agents as soon as he got off the airplane at the Simon Bolivar International Airport in Maiquetia, and was held in detention for a bit. When he was finally released, Nacho uploaded a short clip to Twitter in which he claims that the government had revoked his passport, making it impossible for him to leave the country. In the clip, a visibly agitated Nacho waves his passport in front of the camera and says: quote:Here’s my passport, which has been annulled by the main offices of SAIME [the Venezuelan immigration service] (…) I won’t be able to leave the country, but the struggle continues here. The struggle continue here in Venezuela. We’re gonna hit them harder, with everything, so that they’ll finally leave [power]. This is what I had to fill out [holds piece of paper to the camera]. The paper Nacho holds up to the camera appears to show a set of fingerprints on it, which are presumably his own. The story is making a big splash in the media this evening because of how famous Nacho is. It's hard to draw parallels to North American stars, but he's easily one of the most recognizable names in the music industry in the country. EDIT: SAIME is now saying that Nacho's passport has not been annulled, but that instead there was a "reading error" when the immigration agent scanned it at the airport. It's not clear if the reading error came before/after Nacho was detained by the SEBIN, or why Nacho left the airport under the impression that his passport was no longer valid. Chuck Boone fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Classic harassment tactics, people who leave this country should never comeback, not while these idiots are in charge anyway. The government are perfectly capable of throwing him in a SEBIN dungeon on made up charges and there's nothing anyone could do about it.
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Feb 21, 2016 03:43
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Borneo Jimmy posted:It's called economic sabotage to force a change in government. Remember that the president of Polar has already been caught was caught discussing ways to overthrow the PSUV. Of course right wing businessmen are okay with people dying. Be quiet Malcolm.
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But they already forced a change in government. If this was a CIA-right wing-KKKapitalist conspiracy to create an artificial famine to discredit Chavismo, wouldn't they want to let goods back into the economy now that the MUD opposition has won their super-majority?
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JeffersonClay posted:But they already forced a change in government. If this was a CIA-right wing-KKKapitalist conspiracy to create an artificial famine to discredit Chavismo, wouldn't they want to let goods back into the economy now that the MUD opposition has won their super-majority? The MUD currently has as much power in this country as the Queen of England has in hers.
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beer_war posted:Venezuelans are kinda famous for their names, yes. Chuck Boone posted:These are the names of some of the candidates that ran in the December 6 parliamentary elections last year: Mairalbert Barrios, Zulay Aguirre, Stalin Gonzalez, Genkerve Tovar, Yamelis Herrera, Anniany Tigrera, Leybys Barrientos, Lesbia Castellano, Blagdimir Labrador, Bussy Galeano, Bozo Marco, and Loengri Matheu. All 100% real, living human beings. Everything is awesome. Thanks guys/gals/porpoises. (Man, Canadian politics must look dreadfully boring to you, Chuck Boone.)
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Borneo Jimmy posted:It's called economic sabotage to force a change in government. Remember that the president of Polar has already been caught was caught discussing ways to overthrow the PSUV. Of course right wing businessmen are okay with people dying. Yes. He wants to overthrow the PSUV. I want to overthrow the PSUV. EVERYONE wants to overthrow the PSUV. Nobody loving wants the PSUV, they're corrupt, inept, rotten to the god drat core with their populism and the ruination they have brought upon us. Hell the PSUV itself is trying to force a change in government. Oh, and of course, of course, the people who make a living making medicine, or food, are fine, just so drat fine with people not buying their products, yes, because that makes them a profit. Because of course they want to monopolize the Venezuelan market! The incredibly valuable Venezuelan food and medicine market of absurdly high operational costs due to regulation, where prices are set by the government and enforced with extreme prejudice, and where any profit you make is in worthless Venezuelan bolivares, as the government gets to decide whether you can convert your earnings into a stable currency like the US Dollar, and at very distorted rates. Look, moron, this is the worst possible country to be a businessman in. It's probably the most hostile and difficult economic environment in the region, and if Lorenzo Mendoza had any of the power you claim he has, he would have reverted this situation a long, long time ago. If he actually didn't give a gently caress about the people, he would have closed shop, and rightfully so, because again, it's impossible to make a profit in this country and Polar is economically viable in other countries. Whichever big businessmen remain in Venezuela, they're there because despite adversity, they still somehow believe in the country. In fact, the situation is so dire that I don't think you can even name another "right wing businessman" in Venezuela, because there aren't any left.
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fnox posted:Yes. He wants to overthrow the PSUV. I want to overthrow the PSUV. EVERYONE wants to overthrow the PSUV. Nobody loving wants the PSUV, they're corrupt, inept, rotten to the god drat core with their populism and the ruination they have brought upon us. Hell the PSUV itself is trying to force a change in government. Not to mention that the tape our friend Borneo Jimmy mentions was recorded illegally, and it was a call between two friends. That would be like tapping you, Borneo Jimmy, talking to another armchair radicals about how there should be an armed rebellion against the government and you should totally shoot them with rifles and poo poo, then having that used against you in order to charge you with treason. There's a reason why these kind of recordings are not admissible as evidence.
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