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Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

posting is magic



alf_pogs posted:

also the thread title is heinal

The thread title is what this thread deserves (it sucks)


No Mods No Masters posted:

As for myself, I don't think there should be any mods

:agreed: but you have to work within the system we have even if one day you will overthrow it

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pepito sanchez
Apr 3, 2004
I'm not mexican

No Mods No Masters posted:

As for myself, I don't think there should be any mods

close thread

pepito sanchez
Apr 3, 2004
I'm not mexican
the best thing i get out of this is how the SC community thinks SA is composed of nothing but 100% SC haters and trolls, and forgets it's one lovely thread in a cesspool of green and brown

and think this forum is irrelevant

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



No Starfarer this month?









I don't know who the trolls are anymore

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Daztek posted:

I don't know who the trolls are anymore

chris roberts and derek smart

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

grimcreaper posted:

This means war. The best worst kind of war that doubles every second. Prepare to be litigated.

The legal fees triple every second!

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Daztek posted:

No Starfarer this month?



I don't know who the trolls are anymore

He's not wrong, Star Citizen is marching forward towards its grave faster than anyone else out there.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
Will Derek produce his lines before Star Citizen tanks?

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

ZenMaster posted:

Is there any reason why CIG wouldn't want to finish the game? Like The Producers. Derek, Beer? Any reason why they would be incentivized to not finish and keep restarting the dev cycle as they have been doing?

I can think of one good reason to keep doing what they've been doing:



if untappedMoney > 0:
jpg()
else:
go(cuba)

If they keep getting ridiculous amounts of money for little-to-no output, what's their incentive to increase output and potentially reduce their income because of disappointed backers?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Something deja vu-ish in my head of late, finally figured it out. I've seen a lot of the Citizen thought process before in audiophiles.

Talk of "fidelity", acceptance of stupid expenses for imaginary benefits, hardware porn, the posturing by the whales - it all fits.

:smuggo: I just paid $15,000 for machine park of audio equipment - gold cables (none of that gold-plated poo poo lol), electrostatic speakers, laserdisc player, amp, receivers, the works
:frog: Uh, cool I guess. What you gonna listen to?
:smuggo: Huh? Oh, some Eric Clapton and Dire Straits I guess
:frogon:

I wonder how many SC whales are audiophiles as well

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Something deja vu-ish in my head of late, finally figured it out. I've seen a lot of the Citizen thought process before in audiophiles.

Talk of "fidelity", acceptance of stupid expenses for imaginary benefits, hardware porn, the posturing by the whales - it all fits.

:smuggo: I just paid $15,000 for machine park of audio equipment - gold cables (none of that gold-plated poo poo lol), electrostatic speakers, laserdisc player, amp, receivers, the works
:frog: Uh, cool I guess. What you gonna listen to?
:smuggo: Huh? Oh, some Eric Clapton and Dire Straits I guess
:frogon:

I wonder how many SC whales are audiophiles as well

Only DIAMOND-PLATED audio equipment is good enough to listen to Full Burn

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Enchanted Hat posted:

Only DIAMOND-PLATED audio equipment is good enough to listen to Full Burn

Can confirm. I tried listening with pleb copper cables and my speakers began FULL BURNING

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Thankfully, digital cables have killed much of the cable porn which was the stupidest part of audiophilia

Still lot of stupid to go though

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
googlebutt is right and this thread is dog poo poo now.

i nominate gorf to do a massive effort-post detailing all the hilarious poo poo as the new op.

i also posit that only gorf, b4tbg, derek, eightace (rip), minificus, bootcha, the guy who does the stimpire comics and the two guys that modify classic artwork into unbelievably good owns are allowed to post there.

Iglocska
Nov 23, 2015

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Thankfully, digital cables have killed much of the cable porn which was the stupidest part of audiophilia

Still lot of stupid to go though

So you'd think. Gold plated digital cables baby, Monster still needs to make a livin' off of fools.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

posting is magic



Marching Powder posted:

googlebutt is right and this thread is dog poo poo now.

i nominate gorf to do a massive effort-post detailing all the hilarious poo poo as the new op.

i also posit that only gorf, b4tbg, derek, eightace (rip), minificus, bootcha, the guy who does the stimpire comics and the two guys that modify classic artwork into unbelievably good owns are allowed to post there.

i decided not to do the stimpire gang tags after much soul searching but i still have one comic to go to wrap up that saga

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
I'd contend that the move into everything digital has made audiophiles even worse.

Exhibit A:

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2012/03/26/wiredream-silver-sata/1

Exhibit B:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/07/gallery-we-tear-apart-a-340-audiophile-ethernet-cable-and-look-inside/

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Iglocska posted:

So you'd think. Gold plated digital cables baby, Monster still needs to make a livin' off of fools.
:catstare:

Oh, you're not kidding.

Still a fair bit cheaper than ye olde SHIELDED FIDRLITY MAXX style analog cables

I just hope people know they're burning money :shrug:

Iglocska
Nov 23, 2015

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

:catstare:

Oh, you're not kidding.

Still a fair bit cheaper than ye olde SHIELDED FIDRLITY MAXX style analog cables

I just hope people know they're burning money :shrug:

It depends. I think most of the target audience is gaining real value out of it, by buying the right to be smug cunts and feeling superior infront of their buddies. $80 is peanuts for that! It's basically made for the Wesha Archetype.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

what the gently caress

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Ok I knew audiophiles were pretty resistent to evidence, but now it's just unashamed techno-homeopathy

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process

Marching Powder posted:

googlebutt is right and this thread is dog poo poo now.

i nominate gorf to do a massive effort-post detailing all the hilarious poo poo as the new op.

i also posit that only gorf, b4tbg, derek, eightace (rip), minificus, bootcha, the guy who does the stimpire comics and the two guys that modify classic artwork into unbelievably good owns are allowed to post there.

The problem is SC literally generates no content. Leaving it to people like me and you to post absolute dogshit and nothing else. Nothing.

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process
I always wanted to make money selling nonsense to audiophiles but the marketing budget required is such a cock block.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

posting is magic



hottubrhymemachine posted:

I always wanted to make money selling nonsense to audiophiles but the marketing budget required is such a cock block.

just use kickstarter

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

hottubrhymemachine posted:

I always wanted to make money selling nonsense to audiophiles but the marketing budget required is such a cock block.

Get a kickstarter. All you need is a good pitch.

efb

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Automatically? I don't think B'tak understands game development. If there are space hall monitors there will be a space hall monitor jpeg

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Marching Powder posted:

i also posit that only gorf, b4tbg, derek, eightace (rip), minificus, bootcha, the guy who does the stimpire comics and the two guys that modify classic artwork into unbelievably good owns are allowed to post there.

no :pgabz: ? a shocking oversight

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

posting is magic



alf_pogs posted:

no :pgabz: ? a shocking oversight

shameful.

but based on that frog video he seems spacesick and maybe could use a rest

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

peter gabriel posted:

*Meanwhile at Blizzard HQ*

"So, erm, we've been hearing recently about someone called Paris Hilton, says she is upset about our in game character 'Haris Pilton' or something, Dave you came up with that name, can you put down your copy of Cosmopolitan and explain this?"

"It is merely a favourite name of mine and in no way related to Paris Hilton, now I need to get back to this article I am reading about Paris Hiton if you don't mind"

"OK well that clears that up, thank you Dave. Can you please get your shitzu out of the office we've been through this a hundred times"

Wow this is some good lore man :gizz:

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Timeboxing is a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie :c00lbert:

"Look inside yourself, you gotta timebox him out of existence!"

TMEBOX YEEEAH!

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Toops posted:

True fact: I just implemented Bird AI to Solar Plebeian's first animated bird.

It amounts to:

Push bird forward every 1 seconds.
Turn bird slightly to the right every 3 seconds.

Goal: Fidelity
Status: Achieved
Mission: Accomplished

See you in the 'Lax, birds!

Hell. Yes.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

what the gently caress

A friend runs this to collate examples of terrible people who are bad with money.

Ponzi
Feb 21, 2016


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Fun Shoe
I've only been following this thread since around page 1700, so apologies if this has been mentioned before, but something that bugs me is the constant insistence that 'all money goes towards development of the game', which although technically correct, could include the top management paying themselves outrageous salaries ($1 million per annum each for example), the possibility of money being spent on shady 'consultants', what seems to me to be an overly-complicated network of companies in various legal/financial jurisdictions (making following the money tricky), and I can see numerous ways of siphoning off millions of dollars while still being able to say that 'all money goes towards development of the game'.

This is all guesswork on my part, I have no proof and am not saying that this IS what's happening, but it would explain why CIG are so reluctant to release any financials

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
A truly open company would release their financials.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

posting is magic



thread title fixed, pity about the thread

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
No posting until Eightace comes back.

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


I think it's pretty much assumed that they are taking a sizable chunk for themselves and their friends. Probably expected to spend far less on developing the game than they have accounted for while drawing huge salaries as well. "The backers will never know" and all that. Can they even be held personally liable when this finally goes tits up and jank rear end squad 42: chapter 7 bankruptcy edition is all that's released?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
If there's one kind of shitposting we should discourage it's the "buuuhhh threadd sux close thread" thing

It's more annoying than Derek's copyright teachings

Ponzi posted:

I've only been following this thread since around page 1700, so apologies if this has been mentioned before, but something that bugs me is the constant insistence that 'all money goes towards development of the game', which although technically correct, could include the top management paying themselves outrageous salaries ($1 million per annum each for example), the possibility of money being spent on shady 'consultants', what seems to me to be an overly-complicated network of companies in various legal/financial jurisdictions (making following the money tricky), and I can see numerous ways of siphoning off millions of dollars while still being able to say that 'all money goes towards development of the game'.

This is all guesswork on my part, I have no proof and am not saying that this IS what's happening, but it would explain why CIG are so reluctant to release any financials

This is a good point. I mean, when it came out Sandi had used CIG resources for stuff for her :airquote: actress career :airquote: she claimed she had paid for it herself. Like, how?

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Ponzi posted:

This is all guesswork on my part, I have no proof and am not saying that this IS what's happening, but it would explain why CIG are so reluctant to release any financials

I assure you that it is not a big revelation that CIG hands out cushy jobs to family and friends.

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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Per Eightace, they extract money by starting up lots of companies with people at the top owning stock, then have CIG buy it out

Probably learned a lot from the Gizmondo experience. If the Elmses, Robertses and Freyermuth came out of that shitheap not smelling of feces, they'll either manage this one great as well - or they've become overconfident and begun making stupid mistakes. My bet is they'll never have to answer for any of it

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