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Irony Be My Shield posted:In reality everyone runs basics with bofas because guildgates are not very good. On the other hand you could just use bofas to enable your Nimbus Maze if you really wanted to. I'm suggesting a Nimbus Maze cycle as duals in standard without bofas, or any other typed duals, specifically. Could've swore there were some standard decks that went all bofas and fetches, some of those Wet Junk ones? Maybe it's the fetchlands fault really, since you can run a deck that's 1/5 fetches and win a grand prix. I would make a joke about Legacy here but the lands list that won a grand prix only had 6.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I'm suggesting a Nimbus Maze cycle as duals in standard without bofas, or any other typed duals, specifically. That legacy deck has 4 fetches, not 6. Tranquil Thicket is the land that cycles for G. Also the standard deck has 3 evolving wilds so you could consider it having 15 fetches or 1/4th fetches  e: I think that nimbus maze is really close to the M10 checklands in function, and the UB one from the cycle has weird timing issues that punish certain color combinations arbitrarily in a way that UB largely avoids, so I've never understood why people think they're interesting cycles. Canopy/Grove are interesting asymmetrical concepts that have been discussed to death and cairn was an improvement upon the odyssey lands and not very asymmetric in the end. Sigma-X fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Brownhat posted:
of course a dude with frank miller's batman for his avatar would do this. of course.
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So I'm building cubes out of mainly commons/uncommon as something to do with all my draft chaff, and my friend who has been buying boxes since like at least lorwyn OS chipping in. Both are going to have multiples of at least Commons. Cube #1 is going to be focused on mixing flashback/Delve/and process into a limited environment for shits and giggles and I have a very specific focus for those. Cube#2 is going to be just a curated format with 10 archetypes, one for each colour pair, like most limited formats, bit I'm unsure as to what archetypes to use for all of them. I have UW artifacts, RW equipment/aggro, GW +1/+1 counter synergy, UR delver/tempo/kiln fiend typ effects so far. Bit I'm unsure as to what else to do for the others so far. So basically what are your guys favourite limited interactions/or commons from various formats the past several, maybe tenish, years of magic?
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Rimusutera posted:Cube#2 is going to be just a curated format with 10 archetypes, one for each colour pair, like most limited formats, bit I'm unsure as to what archetypes to use for all of them. I have UW artifacts, RW equipment/aggro, GW +1/+1 counter synergy, UR delver/tempo/kiln fiend typ effects so far. Bit I'm unsure as to what else to do for the others so far. So basically what are your guys favourite limited interactions/or commons from various formats the past several, maybe tenish, years of magic? I would change UG to counter synergy, and switch GW to tokens (maybe still run mass pump like Township?). If you don't want to change U/G to +1/+1 counters: WU: Artifacts WR: Equipment WB: Extort / Leech (clerics?) WG: Counters UB: Mill (really, Ingest/Process + a few good card denial spells) UR: Tempo UG: Ramp / Prismatic (pick em') BR: Goblins / Tokens BG: Sacrifice matters /regrowth RG: Ramp / Fat Niton fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Im working on my first pauper cube so id love to see these lists when youre done! Do people usually include non-basics in a cube, and if so how/how many? Also I think mirrodin makes a good starting point for your 2nd cube.
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field balm posted:Im working on my first pauper cube so id love to see these lists when youre done! Barren Moor cycle lands, Quicksand, Karoos, Refuges. Maybe guildgates. EvolvingWilds/Terramorphic Expanse. Teetering Peeks seems pretty reasonable. edit: It really depends on how much fixing you want in your cube. There is a LOT of potential artifact fixing and ramp. The Chromatic cards, signets, Pilgrim's Eye, Springleaf Drum, Expedition Map, Traveler's Amulet, Wanderer's Twig are all totally reasonable color fixing to put in too. Probably wouldn't put Tron in there. Post might actually be kinda interesting since you couldn't actually assemble 8post. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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field balm posted:Im working on my first pauper cube so id love to see these lists when youre done! http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/25221 My peasant cube. I do include quite a few nonbasics, so people can have some fixing for 2 or even 3 color decks. I haven't updated it in a while. It is oddly difficult to get 6 or 8 people who want to cube around here.
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I played the UR Elradzi deck vs the UW deck and won like 75% of the time. Not sure why everyone is on UW now. It does not seem nearly as good. (Though it's better vs Affinity if you expect alot of that matchup...)
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Looks like there was a run on the Adarkar Wastes market overnight. I can't wait for Eldrazi to be banned out of existence.
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AlternateNu posted:Looks like there was a run on the Adarkar Wastes market overnight. I can't wait for Eldrazi to be banned out of existence. The same thing happened with Karpulsan Forest a week or so ago. DON"T BUY. But the ban of Eldrazi isn't going to made these dumb modern price spikes go away.
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AlternateNu posted:Looks like there was a run on the Adarkar Wastes market overnight. I can't wait for Eldrazi to be banned out of existence. gently caress this game. gently caress this community. gently caress everything.
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AlternateNu posted:Looks like there was a run on the Adarkar Wastes market overnight. I can't wait for Eldrazi to be banned out of existence.  HAIL SATAN
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Cernunnos posted:gently caress this game. gently caress this community. gently caress everything.  I told someone to sell their One With Nothings today, and then realized that with price memory being what it is, the price might not drop back to normal levels.
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Four Score posted:
Oversided laughing Jake with clear background is great.
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AlternateNu posted:Looks like there was a run on the Adarkar Wastes market overnight. I can't wait for Eldrazi to be banned out of existence. What the gently caress is wrong with the secondary market?! 
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Count Bleck posted:What the gently caress is wrong with the secondary market?! Apparently people really want to make my old kitchen table UWB artifacts deck.
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Count Bleck posted:What the gently caress is wrong with the secondary market?! The spikes etc. have taught most people who play "competitive" magic that anytime anything appears to be worth playing they need to buy now or miss the boat price wise. Which is a self fulfilling prophecy.
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jassi007 posted:The spikes etc. have taught most people who play "competitive" magic that anytime anything appears to be worth playing they need to buy now or miss the boat price wise. Which is a self fulfilling prophecy. Like in real life, land prices can only go up, up, up!
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Crap, I actually need one of those for non-Eldrazi purposes. Oh well.
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GoutPatrol posted:Like in real life, land prices can only go up, up, up!
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Chill la Chill posted:Hello sir I would like to arrange a store credit default swap Basically. I await with bated breath for the moment the secondary market crashes. And I will have absolutely no sympathy for game shops (brick & mortar or otherwise) that hedged their entire existence on the assumption Magic will never die.
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Matthias Hunt gets so many calls wrong oh my god
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Hoogland's top of deck has been VERY nice to him this game.
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AlternateNu posted:Basically. I await with bated breath for the moment the secondary market crashes. And I will have absolutely no sympathy for game shops (brick & mortar or otherwise) that hedged their entire existence on the assumption Magic will never die. Yeah. Much as I like my LGS and the people who run it I can't wait for either the market to crash or this game to loving die with how stupid expensive trying to play this game has gotten.
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AlternateNu posted:Basically. I await with bated breath for the moment the secondary market crashes. And I will have absolutely no sympathy for game shops (brick & mortar or otherwise) that hedged their entire existence on the assumption Magic will never die. For the most part it isn't LGS that are affecting this.
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Yeah brick and mortar local shops probably hate these price spikes too. My understanding is they generally make a more money from the high volume, but lower margin churn of $5-20 cards than the stupidly expensive ones that mostly just sit in cases.
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Skyl3lazer posted:For the most part it isn't LGS that are affecting this. I didn't say they were. But you're retarded from a business perspective if you don't diversify.
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AlternateNu posted:I didn't say they were. But you're retarded from a business perspective if you don't diversify. I mean sure, but you're also acting like this is the housing bubble and poo poo will go from 100 to worthless overnight. The MTG bubble popping would just be cards for 20$ being worth 10$, even if wotc stopped existing tomorrow people would still play the game and someone would 100% buy the IP.
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What the loving gently caress is up with this board state?
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Oh hey G/W Devotion is back
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Skyl3lazer posted:I mean sure, but you're also acting like this is the housing bubble and poo poo will go from 100 to worthless overnight. The MTG bubble popping would just be cards for 20$ being worth 10$, even if wotc stopped existing tomorrow people would still play the game and someone would 100% buy the IP. I think you're underestimating how far things can drop if the game ever officially dies. Even if someone is willing to pick up the IP, things will crater in the mean time because all of the infrastructure surrounding the game will have to be rebuilt. It won't be $20 cards going to $10. It'll be $150 cards dropping to $5.
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AlternateNu posted:I think you're underestimating how far things can drop if the game ever officially dies. Even if someone is willing to pick up the IP, things will crater in the mean time because all of the infrastructure surrounding the game will have to be rebuilt. Considering that all the mtg events except the pro tour are run 3rd party, I highly doubt that to be honest. SCG isn't going to stop running their events if they aren't legally forced to.
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Ah yes, Eldrazi Tron. Good.
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Cummings seems insanely nervous on camera. Poor dude. Or he is just a tremendously uncertain player.
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X-1 or better at start of Day 2 of #SCGLOU: 8 Eldrazi, 3 Affinity, 1 Infect, 1 Kiki-Chord. ban this sick filth
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Skyl3lazer posted:Considering that all the mtg events except the pro tour are run 3rd party, I highly doubt that to be honest. SCG isn't going to stop running their events if they aren't legally forced to. "Infrastructure" doesn't just mean who are running tournaments. It includes set development. It includes printing and distribution of new cards. It includes managing banlists, rulings, and the judge program (despite how much of it is run by the community). It includes prize support for FNMs and special events like Game Day/Pre-releases, etc. How long do you expect a game to last when it stagnates because no new cards are being printed? SCG doesn't have leeway to do any of that poo poo, and no one is going to want to go to a pro-level tournament when a format has been solved for 4+ months.
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AceClown posted:X-1 or better at start of Day 2 of #SCGLOU: 8 Eldrazi, 3 Affinity, 1 Infect, 1 Kiki-Chord. Are any of the affinity or infect players 14 year old kids? If so, I think they play at my store.
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