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especially since Britain has a charter membership in the ECHR and not the EU, British common law judiciary has a special steering position in the ECHR, and leaving the ECHR would mean standing with nobody in Europe except Belarus regardless of EU membership.
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forkboy84 posted:Scotland. Not that I think we'll be massively better off than the rest of the UK, I'm just too lazy to learn a new language. You should all move here. So I don't have to feel sorry about you lot. And you can help me create a national cult built around helping people and looking down at those who aren't us.
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Tortuga posted:Most people's chances of owning a home are almost totally reliant on inheritance right now, the gap is already here and it's massive. I would imagine, if we left that house prices will go down due to the inevitable hit to the economy, the decreased demand for houses and hopefully us having to diversify our economy beyond hoarding plies of Victorian bricks. And yes the decreased demand for houses would come about due to EU nationals getting hosed over, which is my main misgiving. I can see where you're coming from but do many EU nationals even own their own homes? I have no facts or figures to back me up so I'm just guessing wildly here, but I'd be shocked if the vast majority weren't stuck in rented accommodation like everyone else seems to be. If anyone gained from that situation I think it would be landlords gobbling-up even more properties at reduced prices while everyone else was reeling and fretting over how they can afford to feed their families. I can't see the average person being in a position to put together a big enough deposit to buy anything if the economy takes a hit, we already have such a heavy reliance on food banks and exploitative employment practices that it's easy to imagine most people simply unable to save anything at all. forkboy84 posted:Scotland. Not that I think we'll be massively better off than the rest of the UK, I'm just too lazy to learn a new language. Apparently their average wages have overtaken England now and their technology sector is seeing a lot of growth. I hope they continue to do well for themselves because they deserve it after having to put up with our rule for so long.
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Feb 21, 2016 04:03
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Oberleutnant posted:I did, thank you! The only downside is that I've now been awake since Friday morning and feel like The EDL South or Pie & Mash?
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Feb 21, 2016 08:55
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Pie n Mash. I don't think we have many EDL South in our city actually.
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Feb 21, 2016 11:01
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/701346171961348100 Unusual for polls to include Norn Iron.
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Feb 21, 2016 11:06
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/701346171961348100 I guess this means Scotland, Wales and NI are the same place now? I think that's how statistics work. I don't want to have to learn Welsh.
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Feb 21, 2016 11:12
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At least you'll be spared debates about whether it's a language or a dialect. Mae hen wlad fy nhadau.... :cryingdragongoeshere:
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Feb 21, 2016 11:16
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Tortuga posted:It just seems to me that house prices are the elephant in the room that will ultimately sway things, and given that the Tories have spent the last 40 years making sure their voters are invested up to the eyeballs in owning houses it looks like the Tories will ironically keep us in Europe It's a shame; because everyone seems to see renting as just something temporary that they have to do in their stepping stone to getting a house they don't give a poo poo about trying to protect renters. The idea of "buying" house and paying for it until I'm 70 just doesn't appeal to me at all. I also wonder what it is in Scotland/Norn/Wales that makes them like the EU more. Maybe more likely to see the actual effects of membership than a Southerner in England? I wish these polls split it between north/south England too.
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Feb 21, 2016 11:21
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/701346171961348100 So did Scotland / Wales / NI just happen to split in exactly the same way here or is this just very bad presentation of England v rest of UK results? e: this guy knows how statistics work https://twitter.com/c123_adam/status/701352271028871168
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Feb 21, 2016 11:30
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UrbicaMortis posted:I taught english in Vietnam and it was pretty cool. Just don't fall off your moped and break both your elbows like I did. Turns out the socialist republic of vietnam has very expensive and not very good healthcare. Haha I also fell off a moped and broke my face and teeth in Vietnam. I skipped the health system altogether though. Man their roads suck.
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Feb 21, 2016 12:08
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Corvo posted:Apparently their average wages have overtaken England now and their technology sector is seeing a lot of growth. I hope they continue to do well for themselves because they deserve it after having to put up with our rule for so long. You have been drinking the SNP kool aid a bit too much. Scotland has gone from being over represented to under represented depending on which party has been in power but it has not been any more hosed over than England has been. It may play well in sound bites for the bloody foreigners ruined our country crowd but Scotland's history since the middle ages has mainly been highlands vs lowlands or rich vs poor not England vs Scotland.
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Feb 21, 2016 12:26
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Feb 21, 2016 12:30
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Foxtrot_13 posted:It may play well in sound bites for the bloody foreigners ruined our country crowd but Scotland's history since the middle ages has mainly been highlands vs lowlands or rich vs poor not England vs Scotland. The OP posted:12. The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles;
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Feb 21, 2016 12:32
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StoneOfShame posted:So where's everyone leave Britain for when we leave the EU and go full fash then? Well Im getting married to a foreigner so theres my escape route. Shes an American, so its to America soon to be renamed Trumpistan 
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Feb 21, 2016 12:55
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Taear posted:I also wonder what it is in Scotland/Norn/Wales that makes them like the EU more. Maybe more likely to see the actual effects of membership than a Southerner in England? I wish these polls split it between north/south England too. 
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Feb 21, 2016 13:15
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Gonzo McFee posted:Bloody lowlanders. drat Scots, they ruined Scotland.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:17
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Some landlords are bastards news:Safety concerns in Sports Direct town over 'carved up houses' posted:
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Feb 21, 2016 13:23
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Pesky Splinter posted:Some landlords are bastards news: funny way to spell all.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:25
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Ban private land ownership, deport all Sports Direct executives and managers to Albania. New head office. 
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Feb 21, 2016 13:26
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Party Boat posted:So did Scotland / Wales / NI just happen to split in exactly the same way here or is this just very bad presentation of England v rest of UK results? He hates SJWs, third wave feminists, and PC. That said, if rUK votes 3-to-1 in favour of staying, Leave would have to win England about 55-45. I wouldn't be surprised if Scotland voted 4-to-1, tbh.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:30
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Zac Goldsmith has decided to support the Leave campaign, which means he's almost certainly just thrown the London mayoral election.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:34
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TinTower posted:He hates SJWs, third wave feminists, and PC. He thinks the Tories are too left wing
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Feb 21, 2016 13:35
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MrL_JaKiri posted:He thinks the Tories are too left wing
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Feb 21, 2016 13:39
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Guavanaut posted:How much further to the right can they go? Ban all welfare and privatize the armed forces? It's in his twitter bio, he's a kipper unsurprisingly https://twitter.com/c123_adam/status/687770491839483904 Lol
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Feb 21, 2016 13:44
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Puntification posted:funny way to spell all.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:45
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LemonDrizzle posted:Zac Goldsmith has decided to support the Leave campaign, which means he's almost certainly just thrown the London mayoral election. The prospect of a by-election in Richmond Park is not what the Tories want right now with the spectre of EU withdrawal and Heathrow expansion over their heads.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:46
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's in his twitter bio, he's a kipper unsurprisingly it's depressing how many righties completely dominate the press, government, culture and society in general. e: just saw this absolute gold. hilarious coming from a kipper. https://twitter.com/c123_adam/status/701056127056875521 Pantsuit fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 13:46
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I agree, it is depressing how many lefties are on twitter and in general, in that it's not yet 100%. That's very depressing.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:49
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Pesky Splinter posted:I didn't format it properly; it was meant to read "Some, "Landlords are bastards" news". all is forgiven then. Pantsuit posted:e: just saw this absolute gold. hilarious coming from a kipper. As opposed to the slick pros of Westminster.
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Feb 21, 2016 13:56
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's in his twitter bio, he's a kipper unsurprisingly I'm assuming he's not a large business or an aristocratic land monopolist.
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Feb 21, 2016 14:13
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Guavanaut posted:What does he personally think he'll gain from the country going ever more rightward? He's a Newcastle fan, so good chance he's a local. So I guess like that lad in that programme about young Tories they made get biscuits
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Feb 21, 2016 14:15
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Guavanaut posted:What does he personally think he'll gain from the country going ever more rightward? Temporarily embarassed millionaire.
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Feb 21, 2016 14:21
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I have a question for you Brits: It seems that you have a problem with housing problem and not just in the center of big cities, where it is expected, but also in places where you have huge tracts of land that are unused. Why are you not building more houses? That seems like it would be an easy solution.
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Feb 21, 2016 14:24
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Taear posted:Temporarily embarassed millionaire. I believe this is called 'being a progressive liberal'. 
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Feb 21, 2016 14:25
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GaussianCopula posted:I have a question for you Brits: because then the 45% of our government that are landlords might lose value on their properties
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Feb 21, 2016 14:27
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GaussianCopula posted:I have a question for you Brits: Because A: Most of these big tracts of land are far away from anywhere with jobs, shops or anything remotely interesting B: We rather like having some countryside and don't want our cities to eternally sprawl outwards (see: Any American city)
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Feb 21, 2016 14:28
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Spangly A posted:because then the 45% of our government that are landlords might lose value on their properties It's not just that, the developers get more profit if they hold off on building the properties they're legally allowed to
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Feb 21, 2016 14:29
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nothing to seehere posted:Because A: Most of these big tracts of land are far away from anywhere with jobs, shops or anything remotely interesting B: We rather like having some countryside and don't want our cities to eternally sprawl outwards (see: Any American city) I think the dangers of Shirebrook turning into the next Phoenix are rather small and you are currently using roughly 1/5 of your land for urban development. I'm sure that you can increase that number to 25% or even 30% and still have enough countryside left.
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GaussianCopula posted:I have a question for you Brits: Government isn't building because of ideology and private property developers don't want to cater for the people who need housing and would rather build luxury flats people can't afford or sit on empty land.
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