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Getsuya posted:Well I made my judgment just based on it being rated 18+ on VNDB but if folks are saying it's not actually pornographic I don't really mind. The rule here is no porn games, that's all.
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Can anybunny guess what game I am finally playing/finishing?
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Feb 20, 2016 21:54
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the classic vn do you like horny bunnies
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Feb 20, 2016 22:03
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it was in a bundle recently, anything is possible.
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Feb 20, 2016 22:23
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Davincie posted:the classic vn do you like horny bunnies
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Feb 20, 2016 22:24
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They're just hankering for a heyday of Something Awful LPs which will fortunately never return.
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Feb 20, 2016 22:32
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Waltzing Along posted:Can anybunny guess what game I am finally playing/finishing? Dangan Ronpa 2? I haven't read the English version but I'm guessing Usami makes a bunch of bunny puns.
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Feb 20, 2016 22:56
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oh wait, is it VLR?
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Feb 20, 2016 22:59
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It clearly is. But that answer's way too boring so I'm going to guess Bunni and Kitty.
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Feb 20, 2016 23:03
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I finished Kindred Spirits on the Roof over the weekend. There's a surprising amount of it left after the credits roll. I guess I'll assume people haven't played it, and make this a kind of review. It's so hard to summarize how I feel about it. Let me put it this way: it was very interesting, and I'm glad I experienced it. If you're not familiar, the elevator pitch is that it's a lesbian soap opera set in a high school. Something I didn't know about the game before I started is that the name is a pun. In the very first scene, you find out that the school is haunted by two ghosts living on the roof, and only the main character can see them. They make a very silly request of her that will make you worry about the game's tone for hours to come, and the story proceeds from there. I appreciate that the ghost thing is presented to you upfront. A worse version of the game would have felt compelled to make it a Sixth Sense-esque "They were dead the whole time!" twist, and that would have been really dumb here. But no, it's not at all a mystery who they are or why they stuck around. You immediately learn that one of them died of illness 30 years ago and the other died in an accident 80 years ago. With that in mind, I was hoping to see an exploration of what it was like to be a closet lesbian in high school in 1930s Japan, because holy poo poo that sounded super interesting, but unfortunately the game doesn't really go into it. The main character herself is basically a... hypercompetent quasi-asexual culinary sperg? Which is immediately about a million times more interesting than the main character of most games. I'm not much of a fan of how her character develops from there, but that's a pretty drat good starting point. It might be misleading to call her the "main character", because more than half the game is scenes that have nothing to do with her narrated from other people's perspectives. The story is also told nonlinearly, so it could have gotten really confusing, but they made some smart structural and UI decisions to help with that. There also aren't any "routes", and you can't miss anything important. There's no way for me to get around saying that the story gets really, really weird at the end. It's like... I don't think this is the big heartwarming emotional payoff you seem to think it is. Actually, it's kind of hosed up. And that's not the only part of the game that I have serious reservations about. It's so earnest and well-meaning, and parts of it are genuinely great, so it pains me that much more to see it make such terrible mistakes. To put the obvious concerns to rest: the sex scenes aren't the issue, and the game has no fanservice in it whatsoever. I actually don't want to talk about the negatives too much, because... there's something I have to tell you. Something you should know about me. The truth is, I haven't been writing this trip report with a pure heart. I'm trying to push an agenda, which is this: you should absolutely play this game if it sounds like something you might be even vaguely interested in. What you think about it will be very specific to your personality, your background and your experience in life, and I don't want to colour your expectations of it with my kvetching. I can't tell you how you should feel about this game. Society can't tell you how you should feel about this game. It's something you have to find out for yourself. I say that as a joke, but I mean it. Maybe it's not worthy of that kind of reverence, but it's all I can say about it. It hosed my critical sense clean in half. Whatever I think about it, I know there are people out there the game will really resonate with - maybe even some who don't expect it. All I can do is hope they find it one way or another.
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Feb 21, 2016 09:29
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I had hoped that writing that big dumb wall of text would help me get my thoughts together, but no, I'm still as conflicted as ever. Has anyone else played any of it? What do you think?
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Feb 21, 2016 09:29
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i think you need to alter your perspective a bit if the game that's caused you this massive revelation is the goofy soap opera game about girls kissing
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Feb 21, 2016 09:42
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It hasn't caused me a massive revelation, but I'm afraid it maybe should have. "Is it secretly incredible and I'm the one being left behind?". "Is this the Japanese Gone Home and I'm not getting it?".
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Feb 21, 2016 09:44
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i liked the aspiring rock star and the disciplinary committee president, they were my favorite couple.
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Feb 21, 2016 09:50
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same.
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Feb 21, 2016 09:53
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i really don't think you should worry so much, dawg. it's a good game about girls kissing, though if your complaints are predominantly about the "main" storyline with the ghosts, i probably share them, because for ostensibly being the most important characters they're also the least likable
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Feb 21, 2016 10:01
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actually i'll give you a line: i think that the ghosts should've succeeded at having sex when they tried by themselves and that october's storyline should've just been about yuna and hina. if i were to think of ways to improve the game that'd be #1.
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Feb 21, 2016 10:12
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I was thinking of two specific things when I said "terrible mistakes": the student-teacher romance being treated as totally okay and not having any negative consequences at all and the "ghost possession sex seriously what is even with that come the gently caress on game you're making me think you're a porno after all" thing. The rest of my anxiety is me getting mad at it for daring to have a drawing of a nipple in it if it's not the Citizen Kane of games, and then getting mad at myself for being so unreasonable. And then playing it up for the trip report because it seemed thematically appropriate and I wanted to make that joke in the last paragraph.
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Feb 21, 2016 10:27
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also "yuritopia" is a dumb word and the main character's surname means "watching from a distance" and that's just way too on the nose
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Feb 21, 2016 10:34
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Someone needs to localize Hakuisei Renai Shoukougun (White Uniform Love Syndrome) and put that on Steam. It is one of the better all-ages yuri VNs out there (and is all about nurses, and I mean what could be better than a story about yuri nurses c'mon now). Flowers is good too, though it has its ups and downs. As a yuri story it's very good (though incomplete since it's meant to be episodic). That's a good one to look forward to if you're into yuri, since it's already been announced for an English release.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:44
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Marimite will forever be my gold standard for a yuri story and everything else will always pale beneath it. It's not a VN, though; you have to turn the pages.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:49
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Oh definitely. And you can actually read most (all?) of Marimite online in English. I also really liked Strawberry Panic, the novels. The anime and game were okay, but the novels of Strawberry Panic seemed to tell a much better story.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:51
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Saoshyant posted:Marimite will forever be my gold standard for a yuri story and everything else will always pale beneath it. It's not a VN, though; you have to turn the pages. Marimite isn't even yuri, it's Class S subtext garbo Don't get me started on this poo poo
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Feb 21, 2016 18:55
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For the late 90's/early 00's that's as explicit a subtext as it could go. Come at me 
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Feb 21, 2016 18:57
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Okay but there's much better stuff now like any of Morishima Akiko's manga
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Sakurazuka posted:Marimite isn't even yuri, it's Class S subtext garbo Man point me to any popular teen series in Japan where the characters have sex. Or even get around to kissing in less than 13 books. Japan is a country of blue balls. ... although I'm curious, having never read any, but do boys' love novels have sex in them?
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Feb 21, 2016 19:08
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Sakurazuka posted:Okay but there's much better stuff now like any of Morishima Akiko's manga Well, I don't know that person's work. Probably should look into it, though. In another news, some idiot leaked a PQube internal email confirming the localization of Steins;Gate 0 on reddit and forgot to remove his real name from it and then deleted the whole thing. So, while not surprising, it's good to see that PQube is interested or actively moving towards a quick localization. Getsuya posted:... although I'm curious, having never read any, but do boys' love novels have sex in them? Where are you trying to take this thread, OP?
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Getsuya posted:Man point me to any popular teen series in Japan where the characters have sex. Or even get around to kissing in less than 13 books. Girl Friends.
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Saoshyant posted:Well, I don't know that person's work. Yeah I guess that was out of the scope of what we should talk about here, I was just wondering since we were on the subject of how bizarrely sterile Japanese teen romance fiction is.
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lol yes yes they do Things aimed at regular teens that actually address sex are pretty rare, the first one that comes to mind is Say 'I Love You', a shoujo manga that includes all sorts of body image stuff That changes completely once you get in to older demographic stuff like seinen and josei though
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Oh hey I noticed that no one mentioned that Dangan Ronpa is now out on Steam. Buy it now and you can get the soundtrack for free (which is a good deal because the soundtrack is amazing).
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Getsuya posted:Man point me to any popular teen series in Japan where the characters have sex. Or even get around to kissing in less than 13 books. Japan is a country of blue balls. Karekano was pretty popular in its day, right? Not that it's really fair to hold other series up to its standard.... So anyway, VNs. Is there any news on when World End Economica 3 is coming out? I've been holding off playing the series for way too long now.
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Anyone played WAS -Hourglass of Lepidoptera-? I was interested when I saw it on Steam but I haven't heard anything about it. Doesn't seem like a romance VN which instantly makes it more interesting to me.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:03
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NRVNQSR posted:
Eventually. I played WEE first game a long time ago but I never caught up to the latest one. It's ok.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:45
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i liked the first WEE but i've held off on part 2 because it was localized by a different company who decided to do straight phonetic translation of character names (e.g. "cerrow" instead of "serrault") and it'll really irritate me.
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Saoshyant posted:Marimite will forever be my gold standard for a yuri story and everything else will always pale beneath it. It's not a VN, though; you have to turn the pages.
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Feb 21, 2016 22:57
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FractalSandwich posted:i prefer vegemite. I've been waiting 12 years for someone to make that joke
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Happy to help.
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Jesus, it's really been 12 years.
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Getsuya posted:Anyone played WAS -Hourglass of Lepidoptera-? I was interested when I saw it on Steam but I haven't heard anything about it. Doesn't seem like a romance VN which instantly makes it more interesting to me. Oh, I have a friend who's played that one. He said he liked some of the characters but the writing often dips into cheap sexist and homophobic jokes and he found it offputting enough that he can't really recommend it.
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