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RBA Starblade posted:I'm never going to see an aim pcs in this game. Or AP rounds. I got two superior aim PCSs in this run and got AP rounds very early from a scanning opportunity.  RNG is a hell of a drug.
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Feb 22, 2016 16:42
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Harrow posted:I got two superior aim PCSs in this run and got AP rounds very early from a scanning opportunity. Oh drat there are scanning events for loot? That's pretty cool. Also curse your luck! I have a shitload of mobility and dodge on my soldiers though.
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Feb 22, 2016 16:44
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RBA Starblade posted:Oh drat there are scanning events for loot? That's pretty cool. I got venom rounds and gas grenades during a loot scan early this run. Not a fan of poison because I like burning things better, but I have to admit that it saved my bacon plenty of times.
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Feb 22, 2016 16:47
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm never going to see an aim pcs in this game. Or AP rounds. Although now that I think about it, the extra length of Legendary might have something to do with that. Having like double the missions (and black market visits) might skew things a little.  toasterwarrior posted:Finally, a use for the experimental armors  But seriously, the way fire randomly spawns in this game is ridiculous. Late game Protect the Device missions are a 50/50 dice roll of "Will the device burst into flames or not??" Exodee fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Feb 22, 2016 16:49
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RBA Starblade posted:Oh drat there are scanning events for loot? That's pretty cool. Yeah I managed to grab talon rounds and a superior mobility PCS once. My rookie ranger had his fate as shotgun squaddie confirmed that day.
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Feb 22, 2016 16:50
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RBA Starblade posted:Oh drat there are scanning events for loot? That's pretty cool. Yeah, I got a scanning point that was "Grenade and ammo" and it dropped an acid grenade and poison rounds. Pretty cool!
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Feb 22, 2016 16:51
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If I had https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqPG4S80bo Imagine a reinforcement drop coming in, the group activates and you hear the officer shout "SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM" before pulverizing a rookie.
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Feb 22, 2016 16:58
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PantsBandit posted:Yeah, I got a scanning point that was "Grenade and ammo" and it dropped an acid grenade and poison rounds. Pretty cool! I got that before even my first supply drop. Felt like something had broken. You can also have scanning rewards of supply trains to hit, though I've only seen that once in about fifty hours of play.
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Feb 22, 2016 16:58
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm never going to see an aim pcs in this game. Or AP rounds. Might be cool if they were something you could research and build. Also, are there +hack PCS types, or is increasing hacking completely dependant on Gremlin level and lucking out on terminals?
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Feb 22, 2016 16:59
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DeathSandwich posted:If I had Officer marks another rookie, "OOOOH YEEEEAH!"  E: Hell, just make it for the advent officer. We can find other people for the rest. Hulk for the Lancer maybe? 
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Feb 22, 2016 17:00
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RBA Starblade posted:Oh drat there are scanning events for loot? That's pretty cool. My luck on this run has been insane (except for hacking bonuses). I'm swimming in PCSs and superior weapon mods. I think I have like five superior scopes to go around. My Kill Zone sniper has 115 aim without tracer rounds. Plus a superior extended mag and superior auto loader. She's a demon.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:03
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I've been playing for a couple days. Is there a commander's guide to ambushing out there somewhere? At first I was just putting squaddies into overwatch, then kicking off the show with a sniper. But this started getting me a solid headshot, a bunch of misses and a pissed off pod followed by casualties. So I started putting the sniper in overwatch, and kicking off with explosives for slightly better results, but it's still lackluster, especially since even if my entire team unloads into an andromedon it just means his corpse will assfuck my point man anyway. Should I just shitcan overwatch on ambush? Seems like special abilities & explosives are where it's at. I suck
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Feb 22, 2016 17:05
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physeter posted:Should I just shitcan overwatch on ambush? Seems like special abilities & explosives are where it's at. I suck Generally I only start going for Overwatch ambushes when my Specialists have the GTS Overwatch perk and Tracer Rounds. Never OW with explosive Grenadiers because a follow-up grenade is more valuable than a cannon shot for cleaning up, and try to open ambushes with a grenade if you don't need anything particularly dead from the outset. Even then, never over-commit. Try to ensure you have one or two people to shoot any survivors (if the grenades don't get them), or at least toss a defensive item.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:17
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The thing to remember with full-Overwatch ambushes is that you're basically giving any surviving enemies 3 turns to gently caress you up before you get a chance to do anything. I hardly ever put anyone in overwatch for ambushes except for my sniper.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:29
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physeter posted:Should I just shitcan overwatch on ambush? I think it's a judgment call if you don't put anyone at all into overwatch, and Sharpshooters and Specialists can of course get overwatch abilities. But you can't control what enemy overwatch shots target. And if you put your whole squad besides the one that fires the first shot into overwatch you have nobody left to react after the pod has scattered. In combination that makes having more than one or two people in overwatch pretty unappealing to me, and personally I often just don't bother with it.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:30
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I generally only put my sniper on overwatch (using Kill Zone) for ambushes. Kill Zone doesn't have to worry about targeting and stays active thorough the enemies' turn. Everyone else holds their action until after the initial ambush.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:32
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That's roughly what I do, even on the first mission it'll be a case of two on overwatch, one throws a grenade, the last one either flanks if its safe, or hits overwatch so the other guy can't.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:34
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SynthOrange posted:A gatekeeper hit my team with its aoe zap/zombifier bomb. One member of my team died, came back as a zombie. This is amazing in several ways. Did it count the death against you even though somehow you still ended up with a living soldier and a zombie?
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Feb 22, 2016 17:44
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Exodee posted:But seriously, the way fire randomly spawns in this game is ridiculous. Late game Protect the Device missions are a 50/50 dice roll of "Will the device burst into flames or not??" Poison grenades. You're welcome. Cpt_Obvious fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Feb 22, 2016 17:50
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Game only has two big flaws that I see. 1: Sometimes it's hard to see where exactly units are/where they're going on the z azis. I wish there was a toggle option to show only one vertical level of the map at a time. 2: The absence of an Arrested Development voicepack. I mean COME ON!
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Feb 22, 2016 17:52
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Is there any explanation for why enemies sometimes go in/out of view? If no one moves, my guy attacks an enemy, and the enemy is suddenly lost in fog (after taking damage).
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Feb 22, 2016 17:56
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Game only has two big flaws that I see. To add this this, occasionally if i flip between units the top/bottom of a building won't pop in and i'll have to play it blind. Kingtheninja posted:Is there any explanation for why enemies sometimes go in/out of view? If no one moves, my guy attacks an enemy, and the enemy is suddenly lost in fog (after taking damage). If their cover is destroyed enemies stop "stepping out".
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Feb 22, 2016 18:01
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If I take two psi operatives on a mission, can both use dominate or just one of them?
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Feb 22, 2016 18:01
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If I take two psi operatives on a mission, can both use dominate or just one of them? Both. Do this.
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Feb 22, 2016 18:02
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I have yet to see Dominate as a training option on either of my psi units. Just lovely luck I guess.
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Feb 22, 2016 18:03
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Poison grenades. You're welcome.
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PantsBandit posted:I have yet to see Dominate as a training option on either of my psi units. Just lovely luck I guess. Keep training and I think it will eventually show up. All 3 of mine had dominate by the end of the game, even though only one of them got it initially. I don't know if you can miss it if you just keep training.
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Hulk Krogan posted:I just finished my initial veteran run and I didn't see a single aim PCS or tracer rounds. My very very first experimental ammo build gave me tracer rounds. That poo poo went on my pistoleer so fast you have no idea.
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Lovin' the game but getting real tired of "missed shot" "missed shot" "missed shot" from sensible ranges.
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Lotish posted:Yeah, I tweaked a lot of spawns upwards in a similar vein to that mod and I think I may just need to tone it down because I'm getting overwhelmed. A lot. Correct me if I'm wrong here or have picked up the wrong information but it doesn't appear to be much granularity to modding the pod numbers or size, and no split between "elite" units (like that Andromedon pod) and "troopers" (chaff like well, troopers). Nor is there a way to have a % chance to increase pod size, it's either "4#/5#/6# sized pod" or not (so no 25% chance for a pod to be 7# sized while the "normal" pods are 4#-sized). Hope they add more moddability there. Fighting 2 Gatekeepers + 4 Andromedons sure is fun though (gently caress that psi nuke). Or that time I went up against 7 Codexes + 1 Avatar + A full pod of Mutons (and 2 Berserkers). Codexes are loving jerks. Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Hey, cheers to the goon who put together Commander+! With double enemy spawns this hits the perfect difficulty spot for me. Challenging enough to feel rewarding, but I don't feel utterly hosed over by a basic injury. 
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On one of Beagles streams he had facepaint that was basically a white skullface (not the base game one), anyone know what mod adds that?
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Feb 22, 2016 18:21
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Exodee posted:Whoa, do those really put out the flames? I'm guessing that the blast will do a small amount of damage to the device itself, but still, that's pretty awesome. They don't put out flames (I don't think), but the poison cloud doesn't cause any environmental damage, meaning you can just blanket the area in a giant poison cloud and not worry about hurting the device. Works great with train runs as well.
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Feb 22, 2016 18:23
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Ciaphas posted:My very very first experimental ammo build gave me tracer rounds. That poo poo went on my pistoleer so fast you have no idea. Dude, blue screen rounds on pistols. Every shot does like +5 damage to mech units and lowers hack difficulty. That triple tap makes sectopods melt if they have any amount of shredding.
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Dongattack posted:On one of Beagles streams he had facepain that was basically a white skullface (not the base game one), anyone know what mod adds that? is it this one? it adds a bunch of really great ones, though i cant remember off the top of my head if the skull one is in there http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619525059
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:is it this one? it adds a bunch of really great ones, though i cant remember off the top of my head if the skull one is in there Nope, just tested it.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Dude, blue screen rounds on pistols. Every shot does like +5 damage to mech units and lowers hack difficulty. That triple tap makes sectopods melt if they have any amount of shredding. Bluescreen rounds on gunslingers are absolutely incredible. Later in the game when MECs start coming in groups you can use the free pistol shot ability to soften one up for your specialist to hack and then just demolish another with fan fire.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:They don't put out flames (I don't think), but the poison cloud doesn't cause any environmental damage, meaning you can just blanket the area in a giant poison cloud and not worry about hurting the device. Works great with train runs as well.  Hulk Krogan posted:Bluescreen rounds on gunslingers are absolutely incredible. Later in the game when MECs start coming in groups you can use the free pistol shot ability to soften one up for your specialist to hack and then just demolish another with fan fire.
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Hulk Krogan posted:Bluescreen rounds on gunslingers are absolutely incredible. Later in the game when MECs start coming in groups you can use the free pistol shot ability to soften one up for your specialist to hack and then just demolish another with fan fire. Cluster of codex's? No problem, throw a nade, when they close get your gunslinger to higher ground and use faceoff. I've had a gunslinger take out 6 in one turn.
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