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Ted Cruz will probably be worse if becomes President. He'll help push through every hateful, stupid, spiteful idea that comes to his desk. Trump won't go after gays and abortion and probably other things, but he'll come up with new hateful, stupid, spiteful ideas Congress never thought of, like extorting our third biggest trading partner into building a wall for us, so it's a tough call. But the thing is that while Cruz will destroy everything if and when he becomes president, Trump is already making the world a worse place now by legitimizing all this demented bullshit, so that's why I hate to see him win.
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Dr Christmas posted:Ted Cruz will probably be worse if becomes President. He'll help push through every hateful, stupid, spiteful idea that comes to his desk. Trump won't go after gays and abortion and probably other things, but he'll come up with new hateful, stupid, spiteful ideas Congress never thought of, like extorting our third biggest trading partner into building a wall for us, so it's a tough call. It's an awful thing, but Donald Trump at least wouldn't destroy the lives of white people too much. Like Nixon? The clean up won't be too bad IMO. Perhaps we'd get a better healthcare system or some other "Nixon"-like programs out of the deal to boot. (Nixon and Trump's ego are very similiar in that regard) Ted Cruz would make the lives of everyone miserable. Everyone. Like we'd be living in a scene from the "Road Warrior" in our day to day lives after his presidency was all said and done. And I hate saying the former but it's true. It's lovely as hell.
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Feb 22, 2016 21:36
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It's also worth mentioning that Ted Cruz is more electable than Donald Trump. Nominating Trump over anyone else is a bad sign for American politics, but in the long run it would be far, far better for him to be nominated and lose than for Cruz to be nominated and win.
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Feb 22, 2016 21:42
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computer parts posted:You seem really invested in showing how Idiocracy totally can't be racist. OR just that your insinuations are super loving dumb and conducive to literally nothing. Either or. Like if you succeeded in convincing people Mike Judge is totally racist you gain what? Liberal e-cred? Elitist Nerd cred for hating on a movie it's popular to hate? What? mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Feb 22, 2016 21:45
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computer parts is literally a diagnosed autistic, I wouldn't think too hard into it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 22, 2016 22:04
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's an awful thing, but Donald Trump at least wouldn't destroy the lives of white people too much. Like Nixon? The clean up won't be too bad IMO. Perhaps we'd get a better healthcare system or some other "Nixon"-like programs out of the deal to boot. (Nixon and Trump's ego are very similiar in that regard) One difference between Trump and Nixon is that Nixon had decades of political experience prior to becoming President. The Congress he worked with was also much more moderate.
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Feb 22, 2016 22:05
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I know Mike Judge has been on the Alex Jones show before which sounds questionable for any human being to do but I don't know the context or what they actually discussed
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Feb 22, 2016 22:08
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Aesop Poprock posted:I know Mike Judge has been on the Alex Jones show before which sounds questionable for any human being to do but I don't know the context or what they actually discussed Mike Judge and Alex Jones are friends in the Texas entertainment scene I think. Also Donald Trump appeared on Infowars a couple months ago so 
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Feb 22, 2016 22:19
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He made King of the Hill, so I can never hate or even really dislike the man.
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Feb 22, 2016 22:20
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StandardVC10 posted:One difference between Trump and Nixon is that Nixon had decades of political experience prior to becoming President. The Congress he worked with was also much more moderate. Yeah but who needs political experience when you're such an awesome businessman? We want to run the country like a business right? Just get someone who says, loudly and constantly, that he's great at making a deal.
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Feb 22, 2016 22:21
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McDowell posted:Mike Judge and Alex Jones are friends in the Texas entertainment scene I think. Also Donald Trump appeared on Infowars a couple months ago so You'd think Donald Trump would be like one of the biggest conspiracy targets possible but I guess not
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vyelkin posted:It's also worth mentioning that Ted Cruz is more electable than Donald Trump. Nominating Trump over anyone else is a bad sign for American politics, but in the long run it would be far, far better for him to be nominated and lose than for Cruz to be nominated and win. Do you honestly think Cruz is more "electable"? I remember they said Romney looked "electable" but America wizened up pretty quickly to the fact that he was an awkward stooge for corporate interests. Given that many people within his own party already hate Cruz with the intensity of a thousand burning suns, I don't think his brand of sleazy holier-than-thou grandstanding is going to work with the general public.
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Feb 22, 2016 22:52
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Aesop Poprock posted:I know Mike Judge has been on the Alex Jones show before which sounds questionable for any human being to do but I don't know the context or what they actually discussed I remember hearing Alex Jones brag how Mike Judge based a King of the Hill character on him and thought that was pretty lovely until I realized he meant Dale Gribble. Then it was hilarious.
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the jizz taxi posted:Do you honestly think Cruz is more "electable"? I remember they said Romney looked "electable" but America wizened up pretty quickly to the fact that he was an awkward stooge for corporate interests. Given that many people within his own party already hate Cruz with the intensity of a thousand burning suns, I don't think his brand of sleazy holier-than-thou grandstanding is going to work with the general public. Yeah, that's just it. Cruz is underwater on favorables/unfavorables within his own party, and is consistent/devoted enough in his own brand of conservatism that there will be no leftward pivot in general election rhetoric. He's got very poor general election chances and no crossover appeal.
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One thing Cruz might have over Trump in the minds of some voters is that he has a bare minimum on knowledge on the functions of the US government.
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Dr Christmas posted:One thing Cruz might have over Trump in the minds of some voters is that he has a bare minimum on knowledge on the functions of the US government. At least enough to know how to shut it down. 
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's an awful thing, but Donald Trump at least wouldn't destroy the lives of white people too much. Like Nixon? The clean up won't be too bad IMO. Perhaps we'd get a better healthcare system or some other "Nixon"-like programs out of the deal to boot. (Nixon and Trump's ego are very similiar in that regard) Trump might actually be an alright black people president. His abhorrent talk tends to be xenophobic rather than white supremacist as such. Good luck with being Hispanic, Asian, or (Allah help you) Muslim, though! Edit: And I'm not using "xenophobic" lightly, although if I were, it's still the only word I can think of that appropriately covers the categories. Muslims? Scary terrorists (and reactionaries, which is funny to see the GOP upset about). Hispanics (immigrants, but good luck being a local)? Rapists, drug dealers, and generally economic nogooders. Chinese (again, good luck being Korean or Thai or whatever)? Slightly better than the other groups, but cagey inscrutable fuckers robbing us blind and plotting to take over the world. America good. Non-Americans, at best, potentially opposed. That probably qualifies as xenophobia, I'd think. Double edit: Even his birther poo poo about Obama, while mysteriously pointed at the first nonwhite President, was rhetorically focused on "is not American" rather than "blacks bad". Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Trump might actually be an alright black people president. His abhorrent talk tends to be xenophobic rather than white supremacist as such. This is older, but I don't think Donald Trump will be good for black people.
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Rubber Tucky posted:This is older, but I don't think Donald Trump will be good for black people. Huh, noted. Thanks for the second article especially.
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Trump is 100% going to throw LGBT under the bus because he doesn't care about it so will negotiate it away for stuff he does care about. Also we'll end up with a worse healthcare system - he's said that for sure he's just going to go with the same HSA scam that all the other candidates are for
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Epic High Five posted:Trump is 100% going to throw LGBT under the bus because he doesn't care about it so will negotiate it away for stuff he does care about. has he actualy said anything real about his healthcare plan? all i hear is him sucking his own dick. but honestly i view it in they way CS lewis viewed it. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” trump would be awful. but he is in it for himself. cruz would want yo "cure" the goverment and people. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:has he actualy said anything real about his healthcare plan? He's started touting HSAs (  ) which are only worthwhile for young healthy peeps.
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LeeMajors posted:He's started touting HSAs ( so i would be hosed. as someone with a medical disability. nice.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so i would be hosed. as someone with a medical disability. nice. P much. This is the party that things HDHP plans are 'cadillac' plans. gently caress them.
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Reminder that Trump has retweeted literal white supremacist accounts twice now.
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LeeMajors posted:P much. i turn 26 next year. so i will be thrown off my parents plan and either try to find a company who will take me, or suck the tit of the goverment.
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StandardVC10 posted:Reminder that Trump has retweeted literal white supremacist accounts twice now. i am sure its more then that?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am sure its more then that? Probably.
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well how much does he retweet himself
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DrNutt posted:It's truly bizarre. I find myself constantly feeling that bigger salaries only correlate with a person's skill at bullshitting and being an insufferable oval office. We absolutely do not live in anything remotely resembling a just world. There are studies out there that straight up say that as salary goes up, productivity goes down in many professions. Also people who make more money have more a tendency that they deserve what they have, and how it was earned by them, no matter the actual circumstances.
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Feb 23, 2016 02:56
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While Walsh flips out over Trump, Crowder is giving up completely quote:At this point, I'm done with the race altogether. No one to support. Focus on culture.
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Hey guys! You remember those posts earlier about how Milo Yiannopoulos was going to a college campus for some bullshit debate? Well guess who's coming to my Campus! quote:Hosted by the Pitt College Republicans. I'm just gonna go and drill my own eyes out now.
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Feb 23, 2016 03:21
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Xanderkish posted:Milo Yiannopoulos hahaha no
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:While Walsh flips out over Trump, Crowder is giving up completely It's interesting that young white people on both sides are feeling disillusioned while old white people seem pretty stoked.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Crowder is giving up completely  A hoo bloo bloo my guy didn't win it's so unfair the country is doomed I give up
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Jerry Falwell Jr. tweeted the following to respond to someone asking how he could support Trump since he is for Planned Parenthood.quote:@lachlan @realDonaldTrump said he deplored PPH's abortion activities but thought they did some good things like cancer screening Shortly after Erick Erikson gave a response that blew me away 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Jerry Falwell Jr. tweeted the following to respond to someone asking how he could support Trump since he is for Planned Parenthood. I've got to say he sounds like someone who truly genuinely believes that abortion is actual murder
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Milo Yiannopoulos gay icon  (couldn't find any anthropomorphized queer control panel icons, sadly)You understand of course, Xanderkish, that you need to attend this talk Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That's where it gets weird and why it's an obvious house of cards; they really don't like each other (some groups believe that only people who go to one specific church will get to Heaven) but got kitten herded together just enough to turn their hate elsewhere. What very few things they all agree on 100% are used to direct their disgust elsewhere; hence harping on gays and abortion so hard so long. This really. Republican leaders have been using the unfocused frustration of groups who are slowly fading into cultural irrelevance as bait to control a large mass of completely unrelated people by pointing them at various targets since Nixon and Goldwater proved how successful it was. These people come from a wide variety of circumstances and often have wildly opposing beliefs, but as long as there was a convenient "other" to target, they'd march in step with whoever promised to destroy the latest scapegoat. This also has the convenient side effect of giving them an out whenever one of their plans failed by letting them just blame insidious grasp of "the other" or the impurity of the last acolyte of Conservatism whose successor will (naturally) be better. It allows them to build up a self-perpetuating dogma that galvanizes vulnerable voters into following them no matter how self-destructive it may be. Frankly, the base almost seems to want things to go badly just so they can something to fuel their anger rather than question their current ideals. The problem is that directionless hatred doesn't create any real, coherent political platforms or any real unity once said "other" is destroyed. The dogma only has meaning if there is a dramatic battle to fight and competent governance doesn't offer that. So the leaders have to keep fanning the flames and creating new outrages just to sustain this perpetual battle. Now it seems to be growing so big that even the usual Republican puppeteers are losing control. Instead of rallying behind the people who have consistently failed to give them their victory, conservatives are flocking towards the candidate that's promising them what they want most blatant terms: a big, obvious enemies to direct all their frustrations at with full righteous fury, but without any of that messy thought to take away from their fantasies. It's no different than an out and out hate group. I suppose that is why I hate Trump so much more than Cruz (and I hate Cruz pretty well): he's the modern reactionary mindset personified. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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"That's so gay..huh huh huh." People, this is the kind of speech and open discourse we are losing at college campuses across the nation.
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