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Foo
May 16, 2003
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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



The god drat tea party is going to be obstinate and keep stumping for cruz while the rest of the gop falls behind rubio and none of it matters because Trump beats them regardless.

sharkbomb
Feb 9, 2005

Montasque posted:

https://youtu.be/1IqfRbjcpDY

Don Jr did an event today... He sounds like a tea-party candidate if I ever heard one and should stump more.

Don Jr. is a decent surrogate. Eric Trump isn't bad either, but he constantly looks like there is currently someone bound-and-gagged in the trunk of his luxury sedan.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

sharkbomb posted:

Don Jr. is a decent surrogate. Eric Trump isn't bad either, but he constantly looks like there is currently someone bound-and-gagged in the trunk of luxury sedan.

Is that really a negative? I'm sure you can think of at least one individual you know who would fit well bound and gagged in the trunk of a luxury sedan.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Brannock posted:

Take a step back, guys. All of a sudden Kasich and Cruz make huge fuckups and Carson seems likely to drop out after Nevada tomorrow?

This is quickly coalescing into Trump vs Rubio for Super Tuesday, with Cruz bleeding off votes from both groups.

Trump gets more votes, apparently, from each candidate dropping out than Rubio does. It's going to be very interesting watching the establishment pressure everyone into backing out in favor of Marco Rubio and it ending up only solidifying Trump's lead into a sure victory. Wouldn't a split delegate situation be better, that way you can justifiably declare a convention deadlock and arrange it so Trump doesn't win? Having it be a two-man race means that the winner cannot be denied.

i suspect that given the decreasing number of proportional states as the process goes on, the guy with the bigger plurality than the other guys is going to get a disproportionate share of the delegates on offer. even though trump will probably pick up more of the drop-out's support than the other guy, i think making it a head-to-head choice is the only chance the not-trump wing of the party has at keeping him from picking up a majority of the delegates with plurality wins

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

sharkbomb posted:

Don Jr. is a decent surrogate. Eric Trump isn't bad either, but he constantly looks like there is currently someone bound-and-gagged in the trunk of his luxury sedan.

Don Jr is a true believer, that's why he works. He basically has all the same positions as Ted Cruz, meaning he sounds like he's been listening to talk-radio for 20+ years.

Eric Trump seems... 'off'.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Wouldn't this primary be just so much more exciting if duels were still legal?

OMG JC a Bomb!
Jul 13, 2004

We are the Invisible Spatula. We are the Grilluminati. We eat before and after dinner. We eat forever. And eventually... eventually we will lead them into the dining room.

vrath posted:

Ann Coulter

It's kind of amazing that Twitter's new Trust and Safety Martyr's Brigade hasn't shut her down for Wrongthink yet.

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

OMG JC a Bomb! posted:

It's kind of amazing that Twitter's new Trust and Safety Martyr's Brigade hasn't shut her down for Wrongthink yet.

on the one hand, racist

on the other, woman

theyre stuck in a loop

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU
Barring the extreme outside chance of Cruz being named to the Supreme Court (and being confirmed, which is tough when you have no friends in the chamber) I see his career going down one of three paths

- Perennial candidate like Huckabee and Dole, over multiple cycles either ending up as a bottom tier 1-2 percenter or getting a pity nomination in a no-hope year against a strong Democrat up for re-election.

- Goes back to the Senate humbled, starts to reach out and make friends and deals, takes a few cycles off to gain seniority and broaden his resume (maybe runs for TX-GOV if Abbott no longer wants it) and try again in four or five cycles. He'd be younger than Trump if he were elected in 2040.

- Goes back to the Senate, continues being TED CRUZ, DEFENDER OF THE CONSTITUTION. Ends up losing re-election once Texas gets fed up with his poo poo and spends the next 30 years in syndicated radio talking about that one time he won a state against Donald Trump.

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

vrath posted:

“Diversity” = nonwhite; “White supremacist” = Not anti-white. https://t.co/baZl6rb8Ey

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) February 20, 2016

Rubio says US is better bc we have more Cubans & Indians. I didn’t say U.S. is better w more whites. Who’s racist? https://t.co/baZl6rb8Ey

–Ann Coulter

Really...makes you think?

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
Wait, what's the answer

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

OMG JC a Bomb! posted:

It's kind of amazing that Twitter's new Trust and Safety Martyr's Brigade hasn't shut her down for Wrongthink yet.

She's too high profile for them to get away with it yet.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
Marco "matarlos los blancos" Rubio 2016

thethreeman
May 10, 2008
Fallen Rib
great tweetstorm by joementum Xenophon surrogate jeet heer debunking trumpmentum

edit: bolding is mine, but all of it is a good read

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/701936995556265984


Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
1. People are writing articles about how Trump could win the presidency. This is one of the best ones: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-donald-trump-becomes-president_us_56cb5429e4b0928f5a6c9ead?section=politics

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
2. My position, since last fall, is Trump has a shot at the GOP nomination but won't be president, barring an unforeseen catastrophe.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
3. Reason Trump won't be president is he's massively polorizing figure even with the GOP, and much more outside the GOP.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
4. Trump has a strong base inside GOP that will follow him to their death, but also many who can't stand him.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
5. To put it in specific terms: if Trump is nominee, could two living GOP presidents George H.W. Bush & George W. Bush vote for him?

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
6. There will be a chunk of GOP electorate who think Trump is unfit to be president. They might not vote for Clinton but could stay home.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 58m58 minutes ago
7. That Huffington Post article speculates Trump would win states in upper mid-west: 2 states GOP hasn't won since 1988, 1 since 1984.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 54m54 minutes ago
8. The broader national demographics are this; every presidential election the electorate is 2 percentage points less white than before.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 52m52 minutes ago
9. Romney in 2012 got 59% of the white vote and lost. So Trump would need to make up both the loss & increase in non-white vote: say, 63%

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 53m53 minutes ago
10. So Trump would need to win a Reagan 1984 style landslide among whites, but is a much more polorizing figure than Reagan.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 51m51 minutes ago
11. Trump fans like to think he won't need 63% or more of white vote because they think he can chip off black voters from Dem. A fantasy.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 50m50 minutes ago
12. Idea that Trump can win over black voters ignores fact he's an Obama birther & Obama is around to remind black voters of that

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 47m47 minutes ago
14. Latinos typically vote in lower percentages than blacks and whites. But Trump as candidate will mobilize Latinos as never before.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 45m45 minutes ago
15. Also, Trump getting 63% of white vote means getting 60% plus of white women. His misogyny has barely been a campaign issue.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 44m44 minutes ago
16. If you look at GOP race, Trump has not been attacked on racism & sexism. He has been attacked for "not being a conservative"

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
17. Jeb Bush has attacked Trump basically for being uncivil, Cruz has attacked Trump for recondite heresies against conservatism.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
18. GOP rivals have not attacked Trump for racism & sexism because they suspect (rightly) these are things much of the base like about him.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 40m40 minutes ago
19. GOP rivals have treated gingerly for fear of alienating base. In general election Clinton or Sanders have no such incentive. Gloves off.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 36m36 minutes ago
20. The simple fact is the very qualities that make Trump a viable GOP nominee are also toxic to wide swaths of the general electorate.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 35m35 minutes ago
21. Leaving aside the the racism & sexism, there is also Trump's business activities.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 34m34 minutes ago
22. In 2012 there were extremely effective ads from Newt Gingrich & Dems that painted Romney as a "vulture capitalist" who hurt workers.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 32m32 minutes ago
23. Think about the people hurt by Trump's bankruptcies & his dubious Trump University. Would make for many, many ads.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 31m31 minutes ago
24. Will Trump get some white working class vote that might go to Dems? Maybe, but not so many after "When Trump Came to Town" ads.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 30m30 minutes ago
25. But aside from political vulnerability, there is psychological vulnerability. Trump goes off the handle when he's criticized by a woman

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 30m30 minutes ago
26. Hillary Clinton would get under Trump's skin & if she's not nominee, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer are good surrogates

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 26m26 minutes ago
27. Trust me on this: guys like Trump psychologically implode when women laugh at them. Wouldn't be hard to find Democratic women to do that

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 23m23 minutes ago
28. Finally there is argument that Trump will pivot to the center & thus win voters he's currently unpopular with. He'll try but won't work

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 22m22 minutes ago
29. A pivot to the center would only work if there weren't many videos of Trump denigrating immigrants, women, and out right lying.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 21m21 minutes ago
30. Trump's problem is he's too memorable, too colorful, to pivot. Once you hear his Mexican rapists comments you don't forget it.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 15m15 minutes ago
31. To put Trump's general elections prospect another way, think about difference between South Carolina GOP electorate & USA population

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 12m12 minutes ago
32. Trump won in South Carolina. State is 63% white. But GOP electorate was 96% white. So electorate wildly unrepresentative

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 11m11 minutes ago
33. Because South Carolina GOP electorate is 96% white, there was no incentive for rival candidates to challenge Trump on racism.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 11m11 minutes ago
34. In general election, Trump will not face an electorate that is 96% white. USA is 62% white, electorate will be maybe 70% white.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 10m10 minutes ago
35. So all the things that allowed Trump to win a plurality of a very white electorate will suddenly turn off 30% voters (at minimum).

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 9m9 minutes ago
36. Of course, saying he turns off 30% doesn't factor in many whites who are anti-racists who will also be turned off.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 8m8 minutes ago
37. Trump speaks for a plurality of the GOP, but not America as a whole. He will never be president.

thethreeman fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Feb 23, 2016

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax
hes probably writing those tweets in crayon on the padded walls of his cell

Donald Trump
Jan 31, 2016

by exmarx

thethreeman posted:

great tweetstorm by joementum surrogate jeet heer debunking trumpmentum

edit: bolding is mine, but all of it is a good read

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/701936995556265984


Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
1. People are writing articles about how Trump could win the presidency. This is one of the best ones: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-donald-trump-becomes-president_us_56cb5429e4b0928f5a6c9ead?section=politics

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
2. My position, since last fall, is Trump has a shot at the GOP nomination but won't be president, barring an unforeseen catastrophe.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
3. Reason Trump won't be president is he's massively polorizing figure even with the GOP, and much more outside the GOP.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
4. Trump has a strong base inside GOP that will follow him to their death, but also many who can't stand him.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
5. To put it in specific terms: if Trump is nominee, could two living GOP presidents George H.W. Bush & George W. Bush vote for him?

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
6. There will be a chunk of GOP electorate who think Trump is unfit to be president. They might not vote for Clinton but could stay home.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 58m58 minutes ago
7. That Huffington Post article speculates Trump would win states in upper mid-west: 2 states GOP hasn't won since 1988, 1 since 1984.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 54m54 minutes ago
8. The broader national demographics are this; every presidential election the electorate is 2 percentage points less white than before.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 52m52 minutes ago
9. Romney in 2012 got 59% of the white vote and lost. So Trump would need to make up both the loss & increase in non-white vote: say, 63%

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 53m53 minutes ago
10. So Trump would need to win a Reagan 1984 style landslide among whites, but is a much more polorizing figure than Reagan.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 51m51 minutes ago
11. Trump fans like to think he won't need 63% or more of white vote because they think he can chip off black voters from Dem. A fantasy.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 50m50 minutes ago
12. Idea that Trump can win over black voters ignores fact he's an Obama birther & Obama is around to remind black voters of that

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 47m47 minutes ago
14. Latinos typically vote in lower percentages than blacks and whites. But Trump as candidate will mobilize Latinos as never before.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 45m45 minutes ago
15. Also, Trump getting 63% of white vote means getting 60% plus of white women. His misogyny has barely been a campaign issue.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 44m44 minutes ago
16. If you look at GOP race, Trump has not been attacked on racism & sexism. He has been attacked for "not being a conservative"

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
17. Jeb Bush has attacked Trump basically for being uncivil, Cruz has attacked Trump for recondite heresies against conservatism.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
18. GOP rivals have not attacked Trump for racism & sexism because they suspect (rightly) these are things much of the base like about him.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 40m40 minutes ago
19. GOP rivals have treated gingerly for fear of alienating base. In general election Clinton or Sanders have no such incentive. Gloves off.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 36m36 minutes ago
20. The simple fact is the very qualities that make Trump a viable GOP nominee are also toxic to wide swaths of the general electorate.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 35m35 minutes ago
21. Leaving aside the the racism & sexism, there is also Trump's business activities.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 34m34 minutes ago
22. In 2012 there were extremely effective ads from Newt Gingrich & Dems that painted Romney as a "vulture capitalist" who hurt workers.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 32m32 minutes ago
23. Think about the people hurt by Trump's bankruptcies & his dubious Trump University. Would make for many, many ads.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 31m31 minutes ago
24. Will Trump get some white working class vote that might go to Dems? Maybe, but not so many after "When Trump Came to Town" ads.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 30m30 minutes ago
25. But aside from political vulnerability, there is psychological vulnerability. Trump goes off the handle when he's criticized by a woman

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 30m30 minutes ago
26. Hillary Clinton would get under Trump's skin & if she's not nominee, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer are good surrogates

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 26m26 minutes ago
27. Trust me on this: guys like Trump psychologically implode when women laugh at them. Wouldn't be hard to find Democratic women to do that

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 23m23 minutes ago
28. Finally there is argument that Trump will pivot to the center & thus win voters he's currently unpopular with. He'll try but won't work

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 22m22 minutes ago
29. A pivot to the center would only work if there weren't many videos of Trump denigrating immigrants, women, and out right lying.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 21m21 minutes ago
30. Trump's problem is he's too memorable, too colorful, to pivot. Once you hear his Mexican rapists comments you don't forget it.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 15m15 minutes ago
31. To put Trump's general elections prospect another way, think about difference between South Carolina GOP electorate & USA population

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 12m12 minutes ago
32. Trump won in South Carolina. State is 63% white. But GOP electorate was 96% white. So electorate wildly unrepresentative

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 11m11 minutes ago
33. Because South Carolina GOP electorate is 96% white, there was no incentive for rival candidates to challenge Trump on racism.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 11m11 minutes ago
34. In general election, Trump will not face an electorate that is 96% white. USA is 62% white, electorate will be maybe 70% white.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 10m10 minutes ago
35. So all the things that allowed Trump to win a plurality of a very white electorate will suddenly turn off 30% voters (at minimum).

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 9m9 minutes ago
36. Of course, saying he turns off 30% doesn't factor in many whites who are anti-racists who will also be turned off.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 8m8 minutes ago
37. Trump speaks for a plurality of the GOP, but not America as a whole. He will never be president.


:qq:

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

lol at defending that bitch coulter

double lol at disparaging the twitter council

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

Forums Terrorist posted:

lol at defending that bitch coulter

double lol at disparaging the twitter council

gross. sexist. boo.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
That guy's right that, when Hillary laughs at him, his head will explode.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

thethreeman posted:

great tweetstorm by joementum surrogate jeet heer debunking trumpmentum

edit: bolding is mine, but all of it is a good read


Am i crazy to think that Trump could lose Texas in the General Election?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

thethreeman posted:

great tweetstorm by joementum surrogate jeet heer debunking trumpmentum

edit: bolding is mine, but all of it is a good read

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/701936995556265984


Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
1. People are writing articles about how Trump could win the presidency. This is one of the best ones: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-donald-trump-becomes-president_us_56cb5429e4b0928f5a6c9ead?section=politics

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
2. My position, since last fall, is Trump has a shot at the GOP nomination but won't be president, barring an unforeseen catastrophe.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
3. Reason Trump won't be president is he's massively polorizing figure even with the GOP, and much more outside the GOP.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
4. Trump has a strong base inside GOP that will follow him to their death, but also many who can't stand him.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
5. To put it in specific terms: if Trump is nominee, could two living GOP presidents George H.W. Bush & George W. Bush vote for him?

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 1h1 hour ago
6. There will be a chunk of GOP electorate who think Trump is unfit to be president. They might not vote for Clinton but could stay home.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 58m58 minutes ago
7. That Huffington Post article speculates Trump would win states in upper mid-west: 2 states GOP hasn't won since 1988, 1 since 1984.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 54m54 minutes ago
8. The broader national demographics are this; every presidential election the electorate is 2 percentage points less white than before.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 52m52 minutes ago
9. Romney in 2012 got 59% of the white vote and lost. So Trump would need to make up both the loss & increase in non-white vote: say, 63%

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 53m53 minutes ago
10. So Trump would need to win a Reagan 1984 style landslide among whites, but is a much more polorizing figure than Reagan.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 51m51 minutes ago
11. Trump fans like to think he won't need 63% or more of white vote because they think he can chip off black voters from Dem. A fantasy.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 50m50 minutes ago
12. Idea that Trump can win over black voters ignores fact he's an Obama birther & Obama is around to remind black voters of that

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 47m47 minutes ago
14. Latinos typically vote in lower percentages than blacks and whites. But Trump as candidate will mobilize Latinos as never before.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 45m45 minutes ago
15. Also, Trump getting 63% of white vote means getting 60% plus of white women. His misogyny has barely been a campaign issue.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 44m44 minutes ago
16. If you look at GOP race, Trump has not been attacked on racism & sexism. He has been attacked for "not being a conservative"

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
17. Jeb Bush has attacked Trump basically for being uncivil, Cruz has attacked Trump for recondite heresies against conservatism.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 43m43 minutes ago
18. GOP rivals have not attacked Trump for racism & sexism because they suspect (rightly) these are things much of the base like about him.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 40m40 minutes ago
19. GOP rivals have treated gingerly for fear of alienating base. In general election Clinton or Sanders have no such incentive. Gloves off.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 36m36 minutes ago
20. The simple fact is the very qualities that make Trump a viable GOP nominee are also toxic to wide swaths of the general electorate.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 35m35 minutes ago
21. Leaving aside the the racism & sexism, there is also Trump's business activities.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 34m34 minutes ago
22. In 2012 there were extremely effective ads from Newt Gingrich & Dems that painted Romney as a "vulture capitalist" who hurt workers.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 32m32 minutes ago
23. Think about the people hurt by Trump's bankruptcies & his dubious Trump University. Would make for many, many ads.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 31m31 minutes ago
24. Will Trump get some white working class vote that might go to Dems? Maybe, but not so many after "When Trump Came to Town" ads.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 30m30 minutes ago
25. But aside from political vulnerability, there is psychological vulnerability. Trump goes off the handle when he's criticized by a woman

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 30m30 minutes ago
26. Hillary Clinton would get under Trump's skin & if she's not nominee, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer are good surrogates

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 26m26 minutes ago
27. Trust me on this: guys like Trump psychologically implode when women laugh at them. Wouldn't be hard to find Democratic women to do that

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 23m23 minutes ago
28. Finally there is argument that Trump will pivot to the center & thus win voters he's currently unpopular with. He'll try but won't work

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 22m22 minutes ago
29. A pivot to the center would only work if there weren't many videos of Trump denigrating immigrants, women, and out right lying.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 21m21 minutes ago
30. Trump's problem is he's too memorable, too colorful, to pivot. Once you hear his Mexican rapists comments you don't forget it.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 15m15 minutes ago
31. To put Trump's general elections prospect another way, think about difference between South Carolina GOP electorate & USA population

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 12m12 minutes ago
32. Trump won in South Carolina. State is 63% white. But GOP electorate was 96% white. So electorate wildly unrepresentative

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 11m11 minutes ago
33. Because South Carolina GOP electorate is 96% white, there was no incentive for rival candidates to challenge Trump on racism.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 11m11 minutes ago
34. In general election, Trump will not face an electorate that is 96% white. USA is 62% white, electorate will be maybe 70% white.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 10m10 minutes ago
35. So all the things that allowed Trump to win a plurality of a very white electorate will suddenly turn off 30% voters (at minimum).

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 9m9 minutes ago
36. Of course, saying he turns off 30% doesn't factor in many whites who are anti-racists who will also be turned off.

Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 8m8 minutes ago
37. Trump speaks for a plurality of the GOP, but not America as a whole. He will never be president.


just loving write a blog post goddamnit twitter has a 140 character limit for a reason

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
I've actually been saying the opposite of that all along: that Trump won't win the nomination, but if he were to, all bets are off.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

InsanityIsCrazy posted:

gross. sexist. boo.

look if calling marco rubio a human being helps keep gay marriage legal i will absolutely do it and i'm sick to goddamned death of the weak left. we used to have cold motherfuckers like joseph stalin, mao and pol pot to point at goddamn it

sharkbomb
Feb 9, 2005
Is Rubot running anti-Trump ads yet? Or is he still hoping to lay low and hope Trump never notices him? Just asking because I haven't seen anything posted on YouTube and don't live in an area that gets political ads.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
The real question is: when Trump loses his mind to an unprecedented degree because Hillary makes fun of him, is there a chance it will only make him more powerful?

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

Forums Terrorist posted:

look if calling marco rubio a human being helps keep gay marriage legal i will absolutely do it and i'm sick to goddamned death of the weak left. we used to have cold motherfuckers like joseph stalin, mao and pol pot to point at goddamn it

we couldve had jim webb

Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011
Can anybody confirm Trump's massive fatness apparent in some photos, how much does this scro weigh

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Mister Fister posted:

Am i crazy to think that Trump could lose Texas in the General Election?

Yes you are.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

InsanityIsCrazy posted:

we couldve had jim webb

i thought jim webb was basically a dixiecrat

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
I'll be honest, I'm a little annoyed by all the ire directed towards Joementum. There are others in this thread, myself included, who have always maintained that Trump is unlikely to win the nomination for a variety of factors and haven't changed our course. I, for example, have thought that Rubio will take it for months and months now. I want your hatred too, dammit.

Donald Trump
Jan 31, 2016

by exmarx

Jewel Repetition posted:

The real question is: when Trump loses his mind to an unprecedented degree because Hillary makes fun of him, is there a chance it will only make him more powerful?

:ssj:

thethreeman
May 10, 2008
Fallen Rib

Joementum posted:

I've actually been saying the opposite of that all along: that Trump won't win the nomination, but if he were to, all bets are off.

didn't realize that about the general, my bad

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU

Joementum posted:

I've actually been saying the opposite of that all along: that Trump won't win the nomination, but if he were to, all bets are off.

Outside of a contested convention or a "Everybody drops out but X and Trump" situation (and I'm not sure this one goes against Trump,) what keeps him from the nomination at this point?

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx
The main reason that list is bullshit is its main argument which essentially boils down to "surely the Democrats couldn't gently caress this up." Yes they could.

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax
Hillary: Steve
Bernie: Dr. Weird
2008: Corn
2016: More Corn

Donald Trump
Jan 31, 2016

by exmarx
FOX coming to their senses?

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Joementum posted:

I've actually been saying the opposite of that all along: that Trump won't win the nomination, but if he were to, all bets are off.

Why? What is so surprising about Trump dominating in a mostly old white male primary that gets its information from whatever right wing bubble they are part of? Like yeah maybe he rewrites a little of what we know about primaries but there is nothing linking primaries and general elections like that.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Patter Song posted:

Yes you are.

Obama lost Texas 16%, Texas is almost 40% hispanic, and Trump has insanely high negatives.

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sharkbomb
Feb 9, 2005
My theory is that Joementum decided months ago that Trump was going to be the GOP nominee and has been trolling this thread ever since. The most insidious, long-con troll. There are some posters that I only recognize when they occasionally pop-up to talk poo poo about Joementum.

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