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Residency Evil posted:Any links for us? I think it's going to be between this and a Cayman. More like 25 lbs. America gets poo poo people would have added in anyway. http://jalopnik.com/the-bmw-m2-is-only-25-pounds-lighter-than-the-bmw-m4-1759763699 A basic Cayman S is going to have a better power/weight ratio, less weight, and better chassis. Get the 6 cylinder while you can. Unless you're living in the past and blindly believe the 911 is better, the Cayman is the best handling and best looking coupe they make. Plenty of practicality with the trunk and frunk as well. I have a feeling the back seats in the M2 will be a complete joke. Still pissed at Porsche for gimping the GT4 with an "underrated" engine and ridiculously long gearing.
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:More like 25 lbs. America gets poo poo people would have added in anyway. I think the most responsible thing to do is going to be for me to wait till next year. I'm bummed about missing out on the gt4, but I'm sure porsche will come out with something to appease us. Along the line of suvs, anyone have thoughts on the x5 vs q5 vs xc90? The girlfriend is looking for an SUV and I'm not going to argue.
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Anecdotal, but I've known three people with X5s (2012+) that all got rid of them for Fords due to being sick of quality issues. And I see them broken down far more than any other suv as well.
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XC90 is best in class in safety and space. And seats.
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The XC90 will sweetly caress your buttocks.
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The XC90 is cool and good and the T6 and T8 are twincharged which is awesome. (Tree hunnert twenny horses on a 2L 4pot? Yes please) And it actually looks real nice which is a quality the X and Q dont have. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 22:47
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only bourgeoi posers need more than an S10 with the iron duke
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thats great and all but clearly you dont love your spouse enough if you arent buying them a $95,000 Escalade
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El Scotch posted:The XC90 will sweetly caress your buttocks. Don't you mean gently caress?
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JazzmasterCurious posted:XC90 is best in class in safety and space. And seats. El Scotch posted:The XC90 will sweetly caress your buttocks. Rigged Death Trap posted:The XC90 is cool and good and the T6 and T8 are twincharged which is awesome. (Tree hunnert twenny horses on a 2L 4pot? Yes please) Yeah, there's a part of me that can't wait to test drive the XC90 and feel that interior gently caressing me from behind.  The reviews it's getting don't hurt, although she also mentioned she likes the way the V90 looks so we might just wait till whenever that comes out. We have zero need for 7 seats so that might be a bit more practical right now as well.
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The Sicilian posted:So what's AI's preferred (sport) sport utility vehicle? 1997 Ford Ranger 4WD 2-door with manual transmission and one of those LEER caps on the bed.
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Incidentally, while vacuuming my car this morning I was reading the GVWR/tire pressures/etc panel on the door sill, and I realized that Ford considers 4 adults to have a combined weight of 600 pounds. The average American adult currently weighs 181 pounds. lol
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Sagebrush posted:Incidentally, while vacuuming my car this morning I was reading the GVWR/tire pressures/etc panel on the door sill, and I realized that Ford considers 4 adults to have a combined weight of 600 pounds. This is just one of the reasons the Firestone Explorer debacle was said to have happened. Probably didn't help the infamous Jeep Grand Cherokee "moose test" recently. I forget if it was Nissan or Mitsubishi that was selling a 7-seater SUV that would be overloaded with three adults in it. No wonder they mandated TPMS.
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Sagebrush posted:Incidentally, while vacuuming my car this morning I was reading the GVWR/tire pressures/etc panel on the door sill, and I realized that Ford considers 4 adults to have a combined weight of 600 pounds. I always think the same thing in elevators: CAPACITY 10 PERSONS OR 1400 LBS.
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The Sicilian posted:So what's AI's preferred (sport) sport utility vehicle? I can swap out the Macan next year with my company for something comparable and would like something with decent interior room as I am 82" tall. "Sport" SUVs are a pretty stupid idea because what makes them an SUV hurts performance (height, weight, aero, etc). The Macan is built off of a car chassis and weights ~4500lbs, which makes it one of the lighter SUVs. So, with 400hp it's actually quite fast and it has road holding comparable to a new WRX. Sagebrush posted:Incidentally, while vacuuming my car this morning I was reading the GVWR/tire pressures/etc panel on the door sill, and I realized that Ford considers 4 adults to have a combined weight of 600 pounds. 
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I've only spent an hour in the XC90 T8 so far, but we should have one coming for a week or so soon. The interior in particular is lovely. Hoping the new Q7 is as nice to drive as the interior is to play with—in black it's like Darth Vader's staff car.
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oRenj9 posted:"Sport" SUVs are a pretty stupid idea because what makes them an SUV hurts performance (height, weight, aero, etc).
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Speaking of European luxury car makers putting out awkward SUVs, I give you the
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It will sell like loving hotcakes though.
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As far as SUV's go I think it looks pretty sharp. I'd be surprised if they did well though since Maserati really doesn't have a strong brand anymore IMO and there's a lot of competition. Their cars are selling like poo poo, but who knows, maybe they can pull off what Cadillac did with the Escalade. Friar Zucchini posted:Just busted out laughing cause apart from styling differences, that thing is basically identical to my '15 Focus hatch. Proportions and body shape, I mean. They are literally selling a swollen economy hatchback. I wouldn't be surprised if the spoiler from one fits on the other. 
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Maybe it's a regional thing? I see Maseratis pretty frequently around Chicago.
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Minto Took posted:Maybe it's a regional thing? I see Maseratis pretty frequently around Chicago. They only sold like 36,000 last year and the goal was 50K. They even had to shut down production for a while due to lack of demand http://europe.autonews.com/article/20151105/ANE/151109898/maserati-sales-boom-stalls-as-output-cuts-expose-fiat-chryslers Out of curiosity I looked up some lightly used Ghiblis on eBay and drat do they depreciate hard heated game moment fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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The Sicilian posted:So what's AI's preferred (sport) sport utility vehicle? I'm not sure I'd care about AI's collective wisdom in regards to SUV's. I think Mazda's crushing the compact and midsize SUV game right now but may not be luxo enough coming from a Porsche. The CX9 looks dope, though.
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Money is a Range Rover. Power is a black GMC.
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Dislike button posted:They only sold like 36,000 last year and the goal was 50K. A new Maserati dealership opened a few miles away from me on Long Island and I'm suddenly seeing Ghiblis everywhere. It used to just be Granturismos and the occasional Quattroporte. I saw one yesterday parked on the street in a working class neighborhood and there's one regularly parked at the college campus that I work at, and it's not a student's. I can imagine looking at them in a couple of years but being scared away upon seeing the reliability and service costs.
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AlmightyPants posted:A new Maserati dealership opened a few miles away from me on Long Island and I'm suddenly seeing Ghiblis everywhere. It used to just be Granturismos and the occasional Quattroporte. I saw one yesterday parked on the street in a working class neighborhood and there's one regularly parked at the college campus that I work at, and it's not a student's. I can imagine looking at them in a couple of years but being scared away upon seeing the reliability and service costs. I was really excited about the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio for about 10 minutes and then I thought about how much it would depreciate in 4 years and moved on with my life.
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Honestly, I wouldn't buy any car like that. Maserati, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes-Benz. If I could afford to buy one, I'd just lease for as long as they cover service and get rid of it. The idea of putting up with something as hellishly complex as modern luxury/supercars when they're out of warranty is not at all appealing to me.
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I never thought I'd be even remotely interested in anything in the same zip code as a 'crossover SUV' but after watching some videos of the Tesla Model X (P90D of course) I have to admit...I'm into it. The falcon doors are pointlessly dramatic, but if you're going to dump $100k why the hell not? Throw some more aggressive tires on it and go nuts, Tax-The-Rich style.
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That's really solid advice. I had a few spare moments at work and decided to see what a Carmax warranty would cost for an e60 M5. I was absolutely horrified. The car was a 2008 6sp M5 with 57k miles. 100k warranty (total), $500 deductible - $4099 100k warranty, $50 deductible - $6899 125k warranty, $500 deductible - $5359 125k warranty, $50 deductible - $9k+ my brain tuned out after I heard the first number Carmax warranties were pretty reasonable a few years back but they wised up after that DeMuro asshat made a career out of bragging how much his Range Rover warranty saved him. Pr0kjayhawk fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:I was really excited about the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio for about 10 minutes and then I thought about how much it would depreciate in 4 years and moved on with my life. It's an unrealized loss until you sell the car. Just keep it forever.
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:
Last I checked they were pretty reasonable for normal cars still. You have to keep in mind the prices on something like an m5 are insane. I would be willing to bet money any of those warranties would still end up saving you money over the total time.
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Hell, how much does a gdcs service cost if you're outsourcing the work. I could see that paying for the warranty by itself.
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Phone post; but it looks like Honda will be offering the new turbocharged Civic with a 6-speed manual. http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/22/honda-civic-turbo-manual-feature/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016
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Dislike button posted:Generally speaking AI despises all trucks and SUVs unless they are used for what the commercials are now calling 'truck stuff.' Buying one means that you are insecure and have a small penis. Two of my three vehicles are unibody SUVs, one of which is only FWD, and the third is a truck that never gets used for truck stuff (or much of anything  ). WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOWAND ALL OF THEM ARE AUTOMATICS 
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IOwnCalculus posted:Two of my three vehicles are unibody SUVs, one of which is only FWD, and the third is a truck that never gets used for truck stuff (or much of anything I drive a Prius and a beige camry. I think my next vehicle should probably be a crossover to complete the anti-enthusiast look!
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Network42 posted:Last I checked they were pretty reasonable for normal cars still. Yea we wholesale those and you have different rate classes for different vehicles. Stuff like a BMW M class or for instance, a Audi S4 are very high rate classes, with the associated costs. Something like a Nissan, Toyota, Chevy etc are usually reasonable. Dealer sets markup so costs are negotiable as well. I had a "premium" contract that I got at cost for my truck and it was $900 for 6 years, 100k. I priced the same level contract for an S4 and it was 5600 or so lol.
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I don't know if it's spreading to all models, but Audi's new quattro system is no longer full time AWD. The system is FWD until "necessary" at which point clutch packs engage the driveshaft to the rear wheels. http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/tech/review-audis-new-for-2016-quattro-with-ultra-all-wheel-drive-system/ quote:Review: Audi’s new-for-2016 ‘Quattro with Ultra’ all-wheel-drive system Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:I don't know if it's spreading to all models, but Audi's new quattro system is no longer full time AWD. The system is FWD until "necessary" at which point clutch packs engage the driveshaft to the rear wheels. Sounds like if you really wanted to, you could make it permanent all wheel drive just by disabling one of the "myriad of sensors".
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Linedance posted:Sounds like if you really wanted to, you could make it permanent all wheel drive just by disabling one of the "myriad of sensors". It's an Audi, it'll happen by itself a week or two after you buy it.
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Linedance posted:Sounds like if you really wanted to, you could make it permanent all wheel drive just by disabling one of the "myriad of sensors". Maybe it's only decoupled when the EPA is testing it!
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