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Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

My big problem with scraping with Emby or Kodi or whatever is that my rate of obtaining new media is much higher than my rate of watching media, and it's a huge pain to remember and to take the time to check everything.

I just know one of these days my family is going to set down to watch James Bond and it's going to be hardcore porn.

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wolfbiker
Nov 6, 2009
I let Sonarr handle all my TV shows but I mostly handle my movies manually. I just double check my server before I download something, then let CouchPotato handle just the processing of the movie.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Thermopyle posted:

My big problem with scraping with Emby or Kodi or whatever is that my rate of obtaining new media is much higher than my rate of watching media, and it's a huge pain to remember and to take the time to check everything.

I just know one of these days my family is going to set down to watch James Bond and it's going to be hardcore porn.

:crossarms: Why do you have hardcore porn in your Kodi library? That's what Videodevil's for.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Call Me Charlie posted:

:crossarms: Why do you have hardcore porn in your Kodi library? That's what Videodevil's for.

I don't.

I kind of conflate two things in that post.

Thing One: Mis-scraped stuff and me not finding it.

Thing Two: Someone who wants the world to burn so uploads porn labeled as Goldeneye or Scandal or something...and me not catching it because it's a hassle to check everything.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

I have never experienced this issue in probably more than a decade of downloading via Usenet. Have you actually had this happen or are you just worried about it?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

kri kri posted:

I have never experienced this issue in probably more than a decade of downloading via Usenet. Have you actually had this happen or are you just worried about it?

No it hasn't happened, that's why I said "I just know one of these days...".

I'm not even worried about it. It was just an aside jokey sort of thing.

You people sure take your porn seriously.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

G-Prime posted:

Might be the cables, I'm definitely using old ones. That said, though, my receiver's a Denon X2000 which (according to the manual) supports 4k@30, the TV's a brand new 4k set (and I'm using the correct port), and the HTPC is running a GT 610, which claims to support 4k@30.

Supporting 4k and supporting HDCP 2.2 (DRM for 4k) are two different things. HDCP 2.2 is new and if your receiver was made before 2014 (or even before last year depending on the model) it doesn't support it. The x2000 is one of those; you need the x2200 model if you want to stay in the same line. You can't update to HDCP 2.2 via software either since it's a new chip (I believe Denon offers chipset replacements for some fairly recent high end receivers if you ship them in to them - not the 2x series though)

You can get 4k content without HDCP 2.2, but it's becoming increasingly rare commercially. Streaming services like Amazon and Netflix use it, as do the new BDs. You can pretty much count on it for most things.

Note HDCP 2.2 (High Definition Copy Protection) is not to be confused with HDMI 2.0a, which it is paired with. The latter is the interface standard that sets out things like connectors and available bandwidth. The former is yet another attempt by the industry to close the barn door after all the horses ran away.

If all this sounds like a bit of a goatfuck, it is, but that's the situation.

Edit: Just remembered, your GT 630 doesn't support 2.2 either. Or HDMI 1.4, which is the bare minimum you need for it. Welcome to the land of 4k early adoption.

Ixian fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Feb 22, 2016

Keito
Jul 21, 2005

WHAT DO I CHOOSE ?
How should HDCP and all those ridiculous DRM have anything to matter in regards to using Kodi though? Shouldn't be different than rendering at any other resolutions except that there's a lot more to render.

Or do you mean new 4K TV sets actually require HDCP to allow outputting to their native resolutions? If that's the case I don't see why you as a consumer would think that's acceptable and decide giving them your money is a good idea.

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003

What's with all the Phoenix streams giving up? Woody, Valhalla...

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!
Is there any way I'm not seeing to stream from Emby Server to the Emby android app locally without paying the monthly fee? I understand paying to stream remotely but I shouldn't have to pay them so I can watch videos on the treadmill. Yes I could use Kodi but it's a bigger pain in the rear end and I couldn't get the Emby addon to install.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

ZoDiAC_ posted:

What's with all the Phoenix streams giving up? Woody, Valhalla...

People have been selling the boxes on ebay, craigslist and kijiji with the addons preloaded. poo poo I saw a vendor in my local shopping mall who was selling them. This brings about more demand on the sources which were dubious to begin with and more scrutiny/takedowns. Don't rely on Kodi streaming addons for stuff, you're just going to be disappointed. The community can't even keep a friggin Youtube addon going without hassles. The only Kodi addon I've used without issue was the NFL one, everything else I just Chromecast or find some other official source.

The Gunslinger fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Feb 22, 2016

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

Keito posted:

How should HDCP and all those ridiculous DRM have anything to matter in regards to using Kodi though? Shouldn't be different than rendering at any other resolutions except that there's a lot more to render.

Or do you mean new 4K TV sets actually require HDCP to allow outputting to their native resolutions? If that's the case I don't see why you as a consumer would think that's acceptable and decide giving them your money is a good idea.

The question I was responding to was in regard to Youtube, Kodi, and 4k. Short answer is you aren't doing all 3, though not all 4k Youtube content is HDCP protected as far as I know.

Even with an official app source (such as one on a Roku, built in to a TV, etc.) you need to have a compliant chain, which is what I was explaining.

The merits of HDCP aren't part of this conversation, they are what they are and you can choose to rage against the machine or not, but the "not giving "them" money so they finally see reason and stop doing this poo poo" route hasn't been working for, I don't know, the last 18 years or so? Hell DVD encryption is so trivial most people forget it even exists and yet it's still technically against the law in many places to break it even for your own use. It is what it is.

If you want to watch 4k stuff legally that is protected, you need to abide by the rules they've laid out. Or, don't watch it, or wait for someone else to figure out how to rip it then download giant files (hope you don't have a bandwidth cap). The game is pretty rigged, nothing new there.

Fancy_Lad
May 15, 2003
Would you like to buy a monkey?

kri kri posted:

I have never experienced this issue in probably more than a decade of downloading via Usenet. Have you actually had this happen or are you just worried about it?

In a similar timeframe, I've had one incident. I'm playing on my laptop while my wife fires up some crappy romcom she had me nab. After a couple minutes she yells "Are you trying to loving tell me something!?!"

Apparently someone thought it would be hilarious to upload a how to give a BJ instructional adult video instead... They were right :D

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
I've never had a porn post but getting the wrong audio track or hard subs is a bummer, and like Thermopyle I don't have the time to check through every file I grab (and I probably wouldn't do it even if I had the time).

ShieldTV updated to 3.0 today. Finally let me set RGB Full and get blacks that aren't just gray.

redhalo
May 19, 2009

EC posted:

I've never had a porn post but getting the wrong audio track or hard subs is a bummer, and like Thermopyle I don't have the time to check through every file I grab (and I probably wouldn't do it even if I had the time).

I've never tried the Usenet route, but the more well known private trackers have never failed me. What are the benefits of Usenet over them?

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Never having to share anything, no chance of a copyright notice. Full download speeds.

redhalo
May 19, 2009

kri kri posted:

Never having to share anything, no chance of a copyright notice. Full download speeds.

I'm not familiar with anyone ever getting a notice on a private tracker.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Also much better tools for automation.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
Goddrat I miss the YT app. :(

redhalo
May 19, 2009

Thermopyle posted:

Also much better tools for automation.

Aside from Sonnar, Couchpotato and Headphones? These work perfectly with torrents.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

redhalo posted:

Aside from Sonnar, Couchpotato and Headphones? These work perfectly with torrents.

If they supported your private indexer and manage your seeding well then, yes I'd agree with you.

Bigsteve
Dec 15, 2000

Cock It!

EC posted:



ShieldTV updated to 3.0 today. Finally let me set RGB Full and get blacks that aren't just gray.

This is the best.

Anyone running a shield and external drive? There are apparently reports of strangeness with kodi and update 3.0.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Bigsteve posted:

This is the best.

Anyone running a shield and external drive? There are apparently reports of strangeness with kodi and update 3.0.

The USB drive mount points where renamed, so any app referencing them will be looking in the wrong place post update.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Bigsteve posted:

This is the best.

Anyone running a shield and external drive? There are apparently reports of strangeness with kodi and update 3.0.

Kodi did crash a couple times on my last night after the update. I am not running an external drive, I have the 16gb version.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

redhalo posted:

Aside from Sonnar, Couchpotato and Headphones? These work perfectly with torrents.

Look, it's really important to Thermopyle that Usenet be The Best, despite apparently being concerned about filename fakeouts that literally never happen on a decent private tracker. It doesn't have to make sense.

redhalo
May 19, 2009

TheScott2K posted:

Look, it's really important to Thermopyle that Usenet be The Best, despite apparently being concerned about filename fakeouts that literally never happen on a decent private tracker. It doesn't have to make sense.

Looking back I realize that I asked a question and then felt I needed to defend my way of doing things to the responses. It's not my intention to sound hostile towards Usenet over private trackers, I just get the vibe that a majority of people in this thread went the Usenet route and have no experience with a mature private tracker in the same way that I have no experience with Usenet. For whatever anyone's htpc setup is like, if it works for you, fantastic. It's hard to get to that point where everything is automated and just works. That said, mature private trackers have like no issues with DMCA notices, mislabeled filenames, and we all use the same file automation software. The benefits as I understand them over Usenet are better retention, amazing quality control and pretty decent communities.

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
You can use both! Sometimes it's just easier to find stuff on one or another service. You can always just buy a block account for Usenet, so if you don't use it much, you're not wasting money.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

redhalo posted:

Looking back I realize that I asked a question and then felt I needed to defend my way of doing things to the responses. It's not my intention to sound hostile towards Usenet over private trackers, I just get the vibe that a majority of people in this thread went the Usenet route and have no experience with a mature private tracker in the same way that I have no experience with Usenet. For whatever anyone's htpc setup is like, if it works for you, fantastic. It's hard to get to that point where everything is automated and just works. That said, mature private trackers have like no issues with DMCA notices, mislabeled filenames, and we all use the same file automation software. The benefits as I understand them over Usenet are better retention, amazing quality control and pretty decent communities.

Weird I had more problems getting torrents setup in an automated manner than Usenet. Files weren't copied properly while seeding due to some silly file lock. Seeding things for X period of time eating up space. Stuff like that. Usenet for me just works, I use a backup server to take care of DMCA and haven't had a failed file in a long time. Not for everything of course, I still use a few private trackers to get more niche stuff.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



EC posted:

Goddrat I miss the YT app. :(
setup your own youtube api account and it'll still work (for now): http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?pid=2213129#pid2213129

before this happened it was a good plan to switch keys anyway to work around the quota issue

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

TheScott2K posted:

Look, it's really important to Thermopyle that Usenet be The Best, despite apparently being concerned about filename fakeouts that literally never happen on a decent private tracker. It doesn't have to make sense.

Actually, this is incorrect. About 50% (by size) of my downloads come from torrents, so I don't know what you're on about. Some tools are better for some things. I believe this is something you are incapable of understanding as evidenced by your recent breakdown about Plex vs Kodi.

redhalo posted:

Looking back I realize that I asked a question and then felt I needed to defend my way of doing things to the responses. It's not my intention to sound hostile towards Usenet over private trackers, I just get the vibe that a majority of people in this thread went the Usenet route and have no experience with a mature private tracker in the same way that I have no experience with Usenet. For whatever anyone's htpc setup is like, if it works for you, fantastic. It's hard to get to that point where everything is automated and just works. That said, mature private trackers have like no issues with DMCA notices, mislabeled filenames, and we all use the same file automation software. The benefits as I understand them over Usenet are better retention, amazing quality control and pretty decent communities.

I've been on several private trackers for something like 10 years. They have advantages for the very things you mention, but the automation ability (or rather how simple it is to automate) just isn't as good as it is with usenet.

If you just want to replace getting TV shows and movies from cable in the simplest and quickest way it's hard to beat usenet.

I usually fallback to torrents for things I want to get the highest quality on or for stuff that isn't just released.

Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Feb 24, 2016

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Thermopyle posted:

Actually, this is incorrect. About 50% (by size) of my downloads come from torrents, so I don't know what you're on about. Some tools are better for some things. I believe this is something you are incapable of understanding as evidenced by your recent breakdown about Plex vs Kodi.

If you can't get RSS torrents with an episode filter for each show you're following to work in like five minutes you should just go ahead and turn in your badge and gun.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

TheScott2K posted:

If you can't get RSS torrents with an episode filter for each show you're following to work in like five minutes you should just go ahead and turn in your badge and gun.

Now rename all the files, manage your seeding state on them all, make it easy for my wife to add shows and your halfway there.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Thermopyle posted:

Now rename all the files, manage your seeding state on them all, make it easy for my wife to add shows and your halfway there.

Plex reads TV show file names just fine. Put a desktop shortcut to utorrent 2.2.1's webUI somewhere your wife will notice, show her how to click the RSS icon and type in a show name. There's no way your sperg goldberg machine is easier to use than that.

edit: poo poo, should have said "rube goldsperg," god dammit that's way better

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

TheScott2K posted:

Plex reads TV show file names just fine. Put a desktop shortcut to utorrent 2.2.1's webUI somewhere your wife will notice, show her how to click the RSS icon and type in a show name. There's no way your sperg goldberg machine is easier to use than that.

I'm sorry you're confused, but I'm not going to continue talking to you because you're incapable of having a conversation like a normal human being.

Keito
Jul 21, 2005

WHAT DO I CHOOSE ?

TheScott2K posted:

Plex reads TV show file names just fine. Put a desktop shortcut to utorrent 2.2.1's webUI somewhere your wife will notice, show her how to click the RSS icon and type in a show name. There's no way your sperg goldberg machine is easier to use than that.

edit: poo poo, should have said "rube goldsperg," god dammit that's way better

Yeah that's pretty far from the level of automation and usability the rest of us are operating with.


As for using torrents with SR/SB/CP/Sonarr you'll probably have an easier time with it if you use hardlinks instead of moving files when post processing.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

TheScott2K posted:

Plex reads TV show file names just fine. Put a desktop shortcut to utorrent 2.2.1's webUI somewhere your wife will notice, show her how to click the RSS icon and type in a show name. There's no way your sperg goldberg machine is easier to use than that.

edit: poo poo, should have said "rube goldsperg," god dammit that's way better

That's actually a step back from most automated usenet setups. But you're just picking a fight with him over your last meltdown/probation, let's be honest here.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

The Gunslinger posted:

That's actually a step back from most automated usenet setups. But you're just picking a fight with him over your last meltdown/probation, let's be honest here.

Honestly I don't even know why I'm doing it. God I've been here a long time.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe
There's a banme thread in GBS. You've been kind of circling the drain man, nothing personal but its been like months of shitposts. Maybe take a breather or something :(

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

The Gunslinger posted:

There's a banme thread in GBS. You've been kind of circling the drain man, nothing personal but its been like months of shitposts. Maybe take a breather or something :(

"Circling the drain" is probably right. When I joined SA I was this 18 year old foreveralone-in-denial. I'm almost 31 now. I'm not that guy anymore. I've got a wife, a kid, a house, a dog - and all of it's good. I've got this nice adult life. I don't know why the gently caress I keep feeling the need to come back here and breathe life into some online blowhard rear end in a top hat that doesn't do anyone any good. Maybe I'm just too used to SA being the first thing I click when I have an idle browser window. The most fun parts of the forum (to me) aren't even really a part of their DNA anymore - it's basically a well-moderated general interest forum now. There's no more meltdowns of people angry about getting banned right after spending their $10. Lowtax doesn't even give a gently caress anymore. Why the gently caress am I still here?

You're right. I'm just gonna get whatever this energy is out somewhere that's already horrible like YOSPOS.

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redhalo
May 19, 2009

CP & Sonarr handle torrent automation pretty much hands free. The only thing that often tends to gently caress poo poo up is dumb anime naming schemes.

Keito posted:

As for using torrents with SR/SB/CP/Sonarr you'll probably have an easier time with it if you use hardlinks instead of moving files when post processing.

What's SR & SB? I'd love to play with some more software.

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