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alnilam posted:What does a row machine look like, of the sort you're talking about, shine There are a bunch of types, but this one is like the one my old gym had. Cable row machines, which I also love, are very common in chain gyms and look like this. Even though these are IMO easier to do correctly than Pendlay rows and such, that doesn't mean people don't screw them up royally all the time. A guy who once pretended to make a porno with his dogs has a good, if wordy form write-up here. Everything works, so do whatever works for you. Pendlay rows, DB rows, inverted rows, whatever. |
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Shine posted:You should give this Real Talk to all those powerlifters who are far stronger than you'll ever be and who make liberal use of machines in their strength training. nobody is talking about power lifters lol i'm talking about general cool fitness stuff. lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Feb 19, 2016 ---------------- |
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:nobody is talking about power lifters lol For "general cool stuff" there are many things people can do, despite what dogmatic barbell purists like to think. |
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:yea. like crossfit what's wrong with crossfit? |
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nothing if you believe fad workouts consisting of doing burpees and box jumps all day is good  hey, i dont want to sit in here and poo poo on somebody's workout (unless it's crossfit.) I answered someone's question about what I like to do for fitness. If I can get my skinny-fat rear end into a gym 3 times a week, and chart tangible progress, anyone can. lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Feb 19, 2016 ---------------- |
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Feb 19, 2016 18:54
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cross fit is bad
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None of us here actually do crossfit so why are we talking about it? Shut up I don't care OK Talk about climbing it's cool yea |
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I haven't hit someone in the face for 2 weeks now and I can't spar again this weekend, so maybe next friday 
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Hell yeah. its literally hitting record breaking high temperatures today in the midwest. It feels so good riding in bibs and jersey again and not in 5 layers of winter gear. 
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man i love me some cycling. I only wish I had a 'bike store' bike instead of a diamondback road bike 
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Piso Mojado posted:Hell yeah. its literally hitting record breaking high temperatures today in the midwest. It feels so good riding in bibs and jersey again and not in 5 layers of winter gear. Yeah but we're also receiving record setting windspeeds! 
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anybody have any good leg exercises that i can do at/near my desk?
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you can buy a little standing desk for cheap on amazon, that basically just puts your computer a little bit higher so you have to stand i think |
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Piso Mojado posted:anybody have any good leg exercises that i can do at/near my desk? squat your desk Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan |
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after being out of the gym for longer than i can even guess due to injuries that landed me in physical therapy i finally started fresh - new gym, new trainer, new routine. so a reasonable person would take it easy so they don't get hurt again a reasonable person
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i joined a 24 hour gym so i can start working out again. now i feel better about lame job
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Ok so in starting strength youre supposed to do squat 3x5/bench 3x5/power clean 5x3 for day A and squat 3x5/press 3x5/deadlift 1x5 for day B but Im only getting through 3 sets of power cleans and then Im totally exhausted... are people actually doing 5 sets with real weight and proper form?? That seems like its way more work than a single set of even the heaviest deadlifts possible. Like Im kind of wondering if thats the recommendation assuming you dont know how to power clean and are mainly just doing form work and cant move real weight. My high school weights class actually had us do oly lifts and the teacher worked with each of us personally on form so I kind of know what Im doing so maybe Im mis-matched for this? For reference I most recently deadlifted 245 for 5 vs power cleaning 95 for 3 sets of 3 today and just dying. |
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let i hug posted:Ok so in starting strength youre supposed to do squat 3x5/bench 3x5/power clean 5x3 for day A and squat 3x5/press 3x5/deadlift 1x5 for day B but Im only getting through 3 sets of power cleans and then Im totally exhausted... are people actually doing 5 sets with real weight and proper form?? That seems like its way more work than a single set of even the heaviest deadlifts possible. I'll preface this by saying that if you haven't read the book, then please read the $10 book! 90% of problems any goon has ever had with Starting Strength stem from not reading the book. Anyway, yes power cleans are part of the program, and that includes people who've never done power cleans, as part of doing Starting Strength correctly is learning how to power clean (and everything else), and the book provides ample instruction for performing the lift. You should also have your form checked by a reputable Olympic lifting coach, or at least by forum dwellers. Anyway, no lift is innately super tiring, as that is largely a function of how much weight you're using. Like, I imagine you could do the 5 sets easily if you used an empty bar. So if you are gassing out on them halfway through the sets of 95lbs, then 95lbs is too much weight for "form work," and chances are you started too heavy and thus prematurely hit a wall. As is covered in the book, you should start a lift at a light weight and work your way up from there, and the book goes into detail on how to choose that first weight. How much weight did you start with, and what weights have you used for your last three power clean sessions? If you can't provide that info, then you're not writing down your workouts, which is a huge mistake. |
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:i joined a 24 hour gym so i can start working out again. now i feel better about lame job omg its DDD |
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working out has been good, i think i could of picked up like 3-4 times in a club on saturday but obviously didn't because i'm a responsible person in a relationship |
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hemale in pain posted:working out has been good, i think i could of picked up like 3-4 times in a club on saturday but obviously didn't because i'm a responsible person in a relationship Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan |
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Shine posted:I'll preface this by saying that if you haven't read the book, then please read the $10 book! 90% of problems any goon has ever had with Starting Strength stem from not reading the book. I understand what youre saying and I did start at the empty bar but it feels harder to progress when carrying the weight across 5 sets as opposed to 3 like in the other lifts. My progression so far has been 45 -> 65 -> 85 (which I did across 5 with only a little trouble) -> 95 where the number of sets feels discouraging. I think it might be more of a question of mindset than anything because I probably could hit 5 sets if I gave myself more time to rest in between and didnt think about the fact that I was about to be done, but its a lot of lifting and feels disproportionate to deadlift days (not helped by benching being more tiring than shoulder press). Dropping the weight feels discouraging too, because the movements only started to "feel right" at 95 when there was enough on the bar that I could really feel each stage of the lift and have everything "click" -- a couple years ago I was cleaning ~155 and even though Im a lot weaker now I just dont really feel like Im doing an "actual" clean if I can just kind of throw the bar around. My ultimate question though is when you say: Shine posted:So if you are gassing out on them halfway through the sets of 95lbs, then 95lbs is too much weight for "form work," and chances are you started too heavy and thus prematurely hit a wall. |
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The reason why it's exhausting you is less because it's 5 sets and more because you made 20lbs jumps, so you're doing 5 sets of a weight you can't yet handle. Dial back to 65lbs and go up in 5-10lbs jumps. That will: 1) Give you several "easy" sessions to get used to form before things get physically challenging. 2) Let you build up the work capacity to do those 5 sets of 95lbs by easing your way into them. After sessions of 65, 75, 80, 85, and 90lbs, you'll get to 95lbs and be far better prepared. Basically, when you first start a technical lift, your first bunch of sessions should be "too light" so that instead of dealing with the physical effort required to move the weight around, you can instead get a feel for form. It's very difficult to learn good form when the weight is hard to move. For the Olympic movements it does make it easier if the bar has a bit of heft to it (as opposed to a broomstick or whatever) but an empty 45lbs bar is plenty. It's easy to just toss the weight up like a stupid rear end in a top hat, but that's a matter of disciplining yourself. There are people out there cleaning hundreds of pounds who are able to do perfect cleans with just the empty bar, even though they could just "jumping reverse curl" it up. The basic steps are the same whether you're cleaning 45lbs or 95lbs. I'd suggest you check out this video. It's basically the same instruction used in Starting Strength without being as wordy. It's for full cleans, but omit the full squat step and it's a power clean. I'll note that 45lbs is cake weight to these guys but they are still able to do proper cleans with it. Practice, practice, practice. Also, make sure you are resting enough. There's a reason why the book hammers home the "get enough rest between sets" bit so hard. Starting Strength isn't a conditioning program; there's a time and place for that and it's not when you're doing this program. |
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I found a row machine, trying that out for a change of pace from the bent db row, it's nice esp cause I always struggled with not twisting my back to help with db rows |
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I have made a playlist of anime mashups with hip hop/dance songs and I will use it as my gym playlist for the next several months  call me maybe will still be my bench press song though Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan |
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ok guys. i lifted saturday, so 3 days ago. i'm still marginally sore. am i allowed to lift today? (pretending to be thoughtful and cautious here)
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any of you East-coasters ever biked on the Great Allegheny Passage or the C&O Canal Towpath? Thinking of maybe touring it here in a month or two. |
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Piso Mojado posted:any of you East-coasters ever biked on the Great Allegheny Passage or the C&O Canal Towpath? Thinking of maybe touring it here in a month or two. Yes, come visit me in Pixburgh The gap is cool. The one thing is primitive camping spots and water sources on the gap are a little farther apart than on the c&o - about 30-50 miles apart. Of course you can bring stuff to treat you own water and fill up at any stream, and you can stop in little towns to get more water. What primitive camping spots there are, though, are in really beautiful spots along the youghiogheny river. I sometimes take weekend overnight trips just to one of them and back. On the c&o portion, which i have a little less experience with, water and primitive camping is spaced out every 5-10 miles. |
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alnilam posted:Yes, come visit me in Pixburgh hell yeah! I'd prefer not to treat my own water, but I keep iodine tabs in my first aid just in case  . I've never been to the east coast below CT, so i would for sure be stopping at all the little towns and taking my time. The trail looks gorgeous though.I'm a wimp and do not like riding or camping in the cold, when do the nights get above 40 degrees there? |
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Feb 23, 2016 18:19
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Sorta in april, reliably in may. |
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super jelly of the al/piso biking camping trip not jealous enough to purchase a bike and an airplane ticket, but still jelly
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Piso Mojado posted:any of you East-coasters ever biked on the Great Allegheny Passage or the C&O Canal Towpath? Thinking of maybe touring it here in a month or two. I've only done small parts of it in the VA/MD area but it's p cool. Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan |
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alnilam posted:Sorta in april, reliably in may. sweet! I'll pm you with details if I pull the trigger on this one. if you know and good resources other than the website, let me know. :] |
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FluffieDuckie posted:ok guys. i lifted saturday, so 3 days ago. i'm still marginally sore. am i allowed to lift today? You should play Rocket League, actually. |
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Shine posted:You should play Rocket League, actually. is this like during the lifting or instead of? bc i could go with either
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