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Feb 22, 2016 19:40
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boom boom boom posted:G Gundam, except instead of countries it's girl's high schools. there should still be countries, just high schools in different countries
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boom boom boom posted:G Gundam, except instead of countries it's girl's high schools. Girls und Zaku?
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-22/gundam-seed-head-scriptwriter-chiaki-morosawa-passes-away/.98959 Looks like Morosawa passed away. I've certainly said a fair share of things about her writing especially in regards towards Gundam SEED/Destiny. All notions of quality aside, someone with profound impact towards 2 of the most popular Gundam series has passed and that's a bit sad.
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TheManSeries posted:http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-22/gundam-seed-head-scriptwriter-chiaki-morosawa-passes-away/.98959 Well... poo poo. That's incredibly sad. She was only 57. Looking it up apparently she had a pretty rare disease that impacted her heart. So for all the talk it looks like she really was legitimately ill. 
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Feb 22, 2016 20:33
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That's a bummer. I wasn't a huge fan either but that's way too young. RIP.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I dunno, when I think of idols in robot anime, my thoughts usually jump to them being some sort of big figure for the populace, either being manipulated to keep the people down or used by revolutionaries to spread ideas or something. I was just going from the idea I'd written, which didn't invlude those things, I don't actually have a big pitch or anything substancial. No biggie. I mean, we've all come up with our own pitch for Gundam series over the years, right?
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MonsieurChoc posted:I was just going from the idea I'd written, which didn't invlude those things, I don't actually have a big pitch or anything substancial. No biggie. Yeah, I know it will never happen, but I'd still love a bug war style show with Gundams.
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TheManSeries posted:http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-22/gundam-seed-head-scriptwriter-chiaki-morosawa-passes-away/.98959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjfbUfcJUM Seriously though, that sucks. Dying before sixty is downright depressing. Caros fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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TheManSeries posted:Yeah, I know it will never happen, but I'd still love a bug war style show with Gundams. Having never seen either and operating purely off plot synopses, would AGE or Trailblazer qualify, or do you mean something more in the vein of "Alien Species That Cannot Be Understood By Man/Is Understood By Man To Be Genocidal, Humanity Fights Back" ala Starship Troopers?
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ImpAtom posted:I think Sunrise is sort of desperate to find the magic button that makes Gundam relevant again and Unicorn was the closest to that so far. While model kits are important they're just not really creating long-term fanbases for their shows and they've had more than one serious bomb recently and no unqualified successes. Even Build Fighters sold merch but failed to capture its intended audience. 00 seems to be the closest they've had to a real success in decades since it held good ratings (around 4.5% if I recall), sold well on home media as well as shifted a lot of merchandise and gunpla over the years. It's ratings weren't as high as SEED or Destiny, but as far as I know it sold more gunpla and would almost certainly have introduced and held more people to the franchise than either of those shows did. As such, I'm praying we get a 00 sequel in the next few years, because I actually really liked 00 on the balance, even including the second season and the movie. I'd love to see a sequel show about the Sumeragi or another such ship sailing around Next Generation style searching for first contacts, new Earths and just generally interesting stuff to explore and then loving up a first contact and having to try and avoid embroiling Earth in a war against an alien species it isn't really equipped to deal with. Sure, aliens and first contact is more of a Macross thing, but gently caress it, who cares at this point?
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TheManSeries posted:Yeah, I know it will never happen, but I'd still love a bug war style show with Gundams. gundam but with bugs was macross f and that was garbage
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tsob posted:00 seems to be the closest they've had to a real success in decades since it held good ratings (around 4.5% if I recall), sold well on home media as well as shifted a lot of merchandise and gunpla over the years. It's ratings weren't as high as SEED or Destiny, but as far as I know it sold more gunpla and would almost certainly have introduced and held more people to the franchise than either of those shows did. As such, I'm praying we get a 00 sequel in the next few years, because I actually really liked 00 on the balance, even including the second season and the movie. I'd love to see a sequel show about the Sumeragi or another such ship sailing around Next Generation style searching for first contacts, new Earths and just generally interesting stuff to explore and then loving up a first contact and having to try and avoid embroiling Earth in a war against an alien species it isn't really equipped to deal with. Sure, aliens and first contact is more of a Macross thing, but gently caress it, who cares at this point? Their big success was Gundam SEED. SEED was credited for saving Gundam from multiple sources in Sunrise and is probably the most enduringly popular Gundam show since the UC. If not for the problems with Destiny and Morisawa's illness it probably would have kept going. (And the illness thing was credited with being the reason the SEED movie never got off the ground.) SEED was a ratings success and a demographic success, the latter being a big thing. It held its popularity for a frankly absurd time and continues to do so. Even SEED HD didn't really demonstrate too much of a cooling on it. SEED also had an advantage 00 didn't. SEED didn't sell as much gunpla (though its gunpla sales were not bad by any means) but it made up for it with character merch. A big part of why 00 had such an early push for character merch was in a hope of capitalizing on that. However the character merch didn't do so hot which is why they went back to going full-on Gunpla for Age and later. That's honestly the big problem Gundam has. It was in a decline and then SEED was a huge success, but nothing they could capitalize on both due to internal problems and a variety of other factors. Since then they've been trying to find something that succeeds in the way SEED has and they can't seem to find the formula. 00 was probably their biggest success after SEED but it wasn't in the same ballpark. (Though SEED was very likely a case of 'right place, right time' more than anything series quality wise.) Edit: It's also worth noting that Gundam SEED is also the last Gundam series to have a legitimately successful multimedia entry. Gundam SEED Astray is basically the most popular non-UC spinoff and a good deal more popular than most UC spinoffs. It's a minor thing but they've tried a hard push for that ever since with limited success. Mostly they just kinda fizzle after a bit while Astray inexplicably has gotten new entries for over a decade now. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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I personally think that a non-UC universe should get revisited. Every new series brings forth a new universe, but if you did a Zeta for, say, 00, then you'd have something different.
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CaptainYesterday posted:I personally think that a non-UC universe should get revisited. Every new series brings forth a new universe, but if you did a Zeta for, say, 00, then you'd have something different. There are a lot of sidestory manga that do this. Unfortunately they update pretty rarely and seem to get dropped a lot.
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Wales Grey posted:Having never seen either and operating purely off plot synopses, would AGE or Trailblazer qualify, or do you mean something more in the vein of "Alien Species That Cannot Be Understood By Man/Is Understood By Man To Be Genocidal, Humanity Fights Back" ala Starship Troopers? Pretty much. I don't like using Starship troopers as an example just because that book is way more than just bug war, but it works. Kuvo posted:gundam but with bugs was macross f and that was garbage Honestly, I think that's a really bad comparison. Macross F is Macross with a bug war. I'd want Gundam to be more along the lines of UC but with an alien invasion. Gundam with bugs would be closer to All You Need is Kill, not Macross F.
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just animate Developers or the manga with the Acguy brothers or Plot to Assassinate Gihren i have not read any of them but they seem well-liked and good
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I thought Wing was a success. True, it was mainly a juggernaut overseas instead of at home but it still did okay in Japan. Contrast with SEED which did phenomenal in Japan and lovely overseas. Doesn't it even out? Granted, Wing was a long time ago now. Then again, so was SEED. Also I want to repost this link http://aeug.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_aeug_archive.html#110060731014068978]Gundam%20TV%20Ratings. Gundam TV Ratings I always found this interesting because the topic of Gundam popularity has intrigued me ever since I became a fan of the franchise. There's such a huge diversity of opinions. And RIP Morosawa. SEED was one of the better Gundams but regardless of that, it sucks to die so young.
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NikkolasKing posted:I thought Wing was a success. True, it was mainly a juggernaut overseas instead of at home but it still did okay in Japan. Contrast with SEED which did phenomenal in Japan and lovely overseas. Doesn't it even out? Wing was successful, but Wing is also almost two decades old now. It did its job well enough and the Gundams remain some of the most popular there are, plus it is basically the Iconic Gundam for overseas fans. Nothing wrong with Wing except that it's decades old now. SEED actually didn't do lovely overseas. It wasn't a huge success but it wasn't a tremendous failure either. What really wrecked Gundam overseas was sadly G Gundam. Not because G Gundam did poorly but because G Gundam's marketing and toy sales were all hosed up because they tried super-hard to push a bunch of different toy lines and ended up stocking shelves with tons of Zebra Gundams nobody wanted to buy which really damaged their attempts to market UC and SEED toys afterwards. (Did you know there were SEED toys released in US stores? Probably not because they were drastically under-ordered.) It also ran into the problem of running censored in some really absurdly goofy ways on Cartoon Network which didn't help much.  Not actually a photoshop Edit: As a fun reminder: Gundam Wing is now almost twice as old as Zeta Gundam was when Wing came out. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Droyer posted:SEED did really well overseas too, i thought Yeah, as I recall, SEED did pretty good, and Destiny was a home success but an overseas disaster.
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ImpAtom posted:Wing was successful, but Wing is also almost two decades old now. It did its job well enough and the Gundams remain some of the most popular there are, plus it is basically the Iconic Gundam for overseas fans. Nothing wrong with Wing except that it's decades old now. Honestly, the disco guns do kind of fit with SEED's ultra-gaudy technological aesthetic. 
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TheManSeries posted:Pretty much. I don't like using Starship troopers as an example just because that book is way more than just bug war, but it works. Agreed, Starship Troopers is a stirring novel about one young man going to band camp, and cuts off before his performance debut as squad leader.  I'm not sure how well Gundam would work with a "Bug War" plot, both AGE and Trailblazer wound up humanizing their alien antagonists (or at least explaining their motives and providing a relatively peaceful resolution to the conflict) and Gundam's always been about human conflict(s). Darth Walrus posted:Honestly, the disco guns do kind of fit with SEED's ultra-gaudy technological aesthetic. If they were a bit more over-designed and angular, they'd fit perfectly into the show. Like NES Zappers. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Wales Grey posted:Agreed, Starship Troopers is a stirring novel about one young man going to band camp, and cuts off before his performance debut as squad leader. There were no aliens in AGE. Trailblazer in the only gundam property to include aliens (not including the alien fossil in seed).
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Bugwar gundam is called muv luv alternative, and for the life of it it cant get adapted into a halfway decent anime. I'd kill for a muv luv series by sunrise though.
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DamnGlitch posted:Bugwar gundam is called muv luv alternative, and for the life of it it cant get adapted into a halfway decent anime. I'm not sure you can adopt anything with those pilot suits into a good anime.
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RIP Chiaki Morosawa. Aortic dissection, the same thing that killed John Ritter, drat.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not sure you can adopt anything with those pilot suits into a good anime. Apparently it's pretty hilariously hypernationalistic, too, though I guess that (literally) fetishising the shogunate rather than the Meiji/Showa empire is a small plus.
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ImpAtom posted:What I've heard is the following: Orga really needs a harder voice like maybe Crispin Freeman's, JYB's is too soft for Orga's but would definitely make a good Eugene. Also apparently Sunrise is releasing Build Fighters and Build Fighters Try in the west on DVD  .
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Orga really needs a harder voice like maybe Crispin Freeman's, JYB's is too soft for Orga's but would definitely make a good Eugene. Also apparently Sunrise is releasing Build Fighters and Build Fighters Try in the west on DVD Yeah, that was my thought too. JYB's voice always feels a little whiny to me. It's appropriate for certain characters but Orga's basically defined by being hard as a brick. Maybe he'll pull off a better job than I expect but at very least he wouldn't be my first choice for the role.
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TheManSeries posted:http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-22/gundam-seed-head-scriptwriter-chiaki-morosawa-passes-away/.98959 Well, this sucks. I hope this doesn't mean the complete end of C.E.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not sure you can adopt anything with those pilot suits into a good anime. They're no worse than the pilot suits in Eva. Darth Walrus posted:Apparently it's pretty hilariously hypernationalistic, too, though I guess that (literally) fetishising the shogunate rather than the Meiji/Showa empire is a small plus. I'm not saying it's not nationalistic but most of criticism that it's received from that is from people who didn't understand the coup arc or what America and Japans role in world politics is in the Alt verse. They've also massively backed off from the more nationalist stuff in the new adaptions coming out. DamnGlitch posted:Bugwar gundam is called muv luv alternative, and for the life of it it cant get adapted into a halfway decent anime. There's no way alternative would be great, maybe good, but not great without including unlimited and extra. But there's no way people are gonna sit through 10 episodes of highschool hijinx, lacrosse, and cats cradle to get to the alien killing.
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Yeah the coup stuff and hyper nationalist stuff is like that because its a take on the coup and hyper nationalism of the 1930s, so to strip the nationalistic part out would be to miss the point. Its saying something about nationalism, its not just being nationalistic for the sake of it.
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OK, you guys have been selling Muv-Luv pretty hard, so I went on a wander around the wiki, decided to get a general idea of the plot, how the central time-travel/dimension-hopping gimmick works, and... umm... huh. http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/00_Unit posted:Later in the story, and despite being a machine, the 00 Unit grows too close to Takeru, and upon realizing it, decides to push him away in "guilt" and in "fear" of him getting hurt. Despite its attempts, Takeru doesn't give up on it, and as a last resort it chooses to let him see the emulated memories of Kagami Sumika when she was in captivity in the Yokohama Hive directly through telepathic projection from her memories. It showed him the images of him being eaten alive as he tried to save Kagami Sumika and the immediate resulting situation where she didn't grieve for him or attempt to avenge him and instead kept gleefully sexually fantasizing about him as the BETA experimented on her sexual organs, all in hope to make him feel disgusted enough to leave. Her heart eventually gave in from the intense orgasms, so the BETA gave her a larger heart, enlarged sexual organs and repeated the experimentation, only this time with even more intense orgasms and then repeated the cycle as necessary.  Like... I'm prepared to accept that the rereleases might have toned that little detail down, or altered/removed it entirely (do they? Please say they do), but why the gently caress would you make that a major plot point in the first place. Anyway. Gundam. Gundam is good. Gundam has giant stompy robots. Gundam does not have... that. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Its cut from the all ages version iirc. Anyway mla is a feel-bad story so mission accomplished i guess. I didnt mean to derail thing into this. Sorry guys. Looking forward to ibo finishing so I can take a look finally. DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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What in the holy gently caress does that have to do with giant robosuits blowing each other up? Take me away Char
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