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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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jivjov posted:What's the copyright situation on DBZ Abridged, anyway? I know they have a disclaimer...but a disclaimer is not a magic get-out-of-infringement-free card. Parody is (rightfully) protected under Fair Use laws...but does that still get to apply when they're not just parodying material but straight up lifting footage wholesale? Judging from their Episode Breakdown they are changing a fair amount of the footage, voices and music in pursuit of their Parody. Essentially Funi/Toei isn't going to yell at them because DBZA from all reports is doing more good for them than harm. They aren't making any money off of the episodes themselves, and only make money from patreon, and videos based on the parodies of characters. And holy poo poo the fan backlash wouldn't be worth it. Also the poo poo they are doing now is like 20+ years old. If they were abridging Super right now then it may be a different story. But the original series is old poo poo for the most part.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:38
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jivjov posted:What's the copyright situation on DBZ Abridged, anyway? I know they have a disclaimer...but a disclaimer is not a magic get-out-of-infringement-free card. Parody is (rightfully) protected under Fair Use laws...but does that still get to apply when they're not just parodying material but straight up lifting footage wholesale? I also wonder if the fact that they are now collecting money, via, Patreon, to pay themselves to produce it changes anything. It's not really a "non-profit" parody video series any more. I noticed they dropped that part from the disclaimer at the beginning on episode 44.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:41
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Key thing people need to remember is that YouTube is a private corporation, and it's their rules that everybody needs to play by, not the actual laws of whatever country you're uploading videos from. If, at some point, you're able to actually get into a courtroom to fight against a copyright takedown, THEN, and only then, will the laws on fair use matter. Until that point, you're going to be judged under YouTube's own internal rulebook, which, guess what?!?!, was mostly written to appease big corporations with lots of money and lots of lawyers so that they wouldn't use all of their money and lawyers to crush YouTube under their feet. And is mostly run by machines. And is incredibly, laughably easy to abuse.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:51
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Key thing people need to remember is that YouTube is a private corporation, and it's their rules that everybody needs to play by, not the actual laws of whatever country you're uploading videos from. They've already had that fight with youtube Also their Patreon is to parody stuff like FF7 and for them to create a studio. They make it quite clear their Patreon won't affect DBZA at all. How much you believe that is up for debate and they'd probably lose in court if it Toei/Funi wanted to do it, but they probably have some agreement with Funi espeicially considering one of them was voicing characters in the Games and Resurrection F. Dexo fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Feb 24, 2016 08:32
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"Sorry you won your case in a court of law, but our machines still took you down because they're dumb. No hard feelings, right?" *I don't actually remember if the case was won in a court of law or if they and youtube came to an understanding, but it kind of amounts to the same thing when pointing out how trash the automated feature is. Twiddy fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Feb 24, 2016 08:37
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Aurora posted:People already just use dailymotion for stuff that would get hit by copyright takedowns, it's not like youtube's going to change its policies form some "mass walkout of content providers" or whatever Even Dailymotion has been more militant with copyright infringing in the past year or so.
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Feb 24, 2016 10:40
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Dexo posted:How much you believe that is up for debate and they'd probably lose in court if it Toei/Funi wanted to do it, but they probably have some agreement with Funi espeicially considering one of them was voicing characters in the Games and Resurrection F.
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Feb 24, 2016 14:29
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Kaiser was in Resurrection F being Additional voices. edit: Oh yeah that one.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:19
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mmkay posted:I know about Xenoverse, but who was being voiced by who in Resurrection F? Kaiser voiced one of Freeza's henchmen, the one that apologized for getting his rear end kicked by the Gohan & co
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Feb 24, 2016 16:19
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Chris Sabat's also pretty open about being pals with the TFS crew, so yeah they don't seem concerned about Funimation going go after them any time soon.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:21
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Augus posted:Chris Sabat's also pretty open about being pals with the TFS crew, so yeah Funimation probably isn't gonna go after them any time soon. strangely enough, sean schemmel doesn't like dbz abridged at all, or at the very least he refuses to comment on them, so I guess opinion's can vary.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:22
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Kaiser's twitter said it wasn't Funimation who took them down. So yeah basically Youtube's automated system being a piece of trash.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:23
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Toei.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:27
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Monaghan posted:strangely enough, sean schemmel doesn't like dbz abridged at all, or at the very least he refuses to comment on them, so I guess opinion's can vary. IIRC they mentioned in one of their videos that either him or Sonny (the guy who does Krillin) perceives the Abridged series as an insult to their performance.
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Feb 24, 2016 16:45
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Twiddy posted:"Sorry you won your case in a court of law, but our machines still took you down because they're dumb. No hard feelings, right?" I don't know that this applies to Team Four Star's situation, but honestly considering that I'm pretty sure the Super Hexagon guy or some semi-prominent Indie game dev got a copyright strike on a video he made on his own drat game with his own drat music, we've honestly seen worse. visceril posted:IIRC they mentioned in one of their videos that either him or Sonny (the guy who does Krillin) perceives the Abridged series as an insult to their performance. Which honestly seems really weird to me, since I don't know how you watch the show for half an hour without realizing just how much these guys loving adore DBZ.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:00
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To be fair, if anyone has solid grounds to have an issue with TFS, it's Krillin.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:29
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visceril posted:IIRC they mentioned in one of their videos that either him or Sonny (the guy who does Krillin) perceives the Abridged series as an insult to their performance. Well, to be fair, Krillin/Goku both get the poo poo end of the stick in comparison to their original performances. They are both caricatures to an extreme of their original design. On the other hand, Vegeta is almost the pinnacle of what he stood for in the original series. I mean poo poo, if I voiced a character and brought him to life for a generation, and then one of the major things that character became known for in abridged was loving "Muffin Button", I don't know if I would appreciate it that much either.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:42
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New Leaf posted:To be fair, if anyone has solid grounds to have an issue with TFS, it's Krillin. Who voices Yamcha
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Feb 24, 2016 18:09
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Burkion posted:Who voices Yamcha Chris Sabat
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Feb 24, 2016 18:12
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Red Metal posted:Chris Sabat Sean and Sonny have NOTHING to complain about.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:22
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Where's the source for this? I've never heard Sonny say anything bad about DBZA, thought Sean didn't talk about it for legal reasons.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:27
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I was under the impression that Sean was a fan actually.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:30
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Yeah the only thing I heard was Sonny HATED Dragonball Evolution.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:36
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Justin Cook doesn't like it either. He said something about it at new York comic con
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Feb 24, 2016 18:39
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Neo_Crimson posted:Where's the source for this? I've never heard Sonny say anything bad about DBZA, thought Sean didn't talk about it for legal reasons. My recollections of their comments during a DBcember playthrough. This is personal stuff not public Twitter beef or anything
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Feb 24, 2016 18:45
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It's probably not super uncommon for people to watch the first couple episodes and decides it sucks, it got way better as time went on.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:47
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I've been two two cons that had Sean as a guest and each time a person asked him what he thought about dbz abridged and he seemed annoyed at the question. I don't blame him as I think that's an incredibly disrespectful question and all around dick move.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:55
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Monaghan posted:I've been two two cons that had Sean as a guest and each time a person asked him what he thought about dbz abridged and he seemed annoyed at the question. I don't blame him as I think that's an incredibly disrespectful question and all around dick move. Also on the most basic level he probably gets bugged about it all the time.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:57
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Monaghan posted:I've been two two cons that had Sean as a guest and each time a person asked him what he thought about dbz abridged and he seemed annoyed at the question. I don't blame him as I think that's an incredibly disrespectful question and all around dick move. How is it disrespectful.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:08
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I really don't get the disrespectful thing. What's disrespectful about it?
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Feb 24, 2016 19:15
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It's not really disrespectfully intended but I can see how "Tell me what you think about a well loved thing in the DBZ fandom that does not involve you at all" would be annoying to him. While all abridged series are born of love for the source, it's not a huge stretch for those who don't know better to see them as a "the original sucks, here's a better version" thing.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:19
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Because he is the real Krillin and doesn't want you giving the pretender any legitimacy.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:19
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ImpAtom posted:I really don't get the disrespectful thing. What's disrespectful about it? Maybe disrespectful is the wrong word, but I do feel that if an actor goes to a con, talks about a show he works on and opens the floor to ask him questions about said show or stuff he worked on, asking him about something he's had no involvement with and arguably, makes fun of the thing he worked on, is sort of a dickish thing to do.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:23
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Monaghan posted:Maybe disrespectful is the wrong word, but I do feel that if an actor goes to a con, talks about a show he works on and opens the floor to ask him questions about said show or stuff he worked on, asking him about something he's had no involvement with and arguably, makes fun of the thing he worked on, is sort of a dickish thing to do. If nothing else, it is rather perplexing. "Hey, what do you think of Dragonball Z Abridged?" a random fans calls out. "What?" the actor replies. "Ya know, the youtube series!" "I, what? I worked on Dragonball Z. I can talk about that. I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you want to know some behinds the scene stuff on DBZ or something like that, I can do that."
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Feb 24, 2016 19:26
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They are asking his opinion, by definition it is relevant to him. This conversation is perplexing.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:30
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Monaghan posted:Maybe disrespectful is the wrong word, but I do feel that if an actor goes to a con, talks about a show he works on and opens the floor to ask him questions about said show or stuff he worked on, asking him about something he's had no involvement with and arguably, makes fun of the thing he worked on, is sort of a dickish thing to do. I guess it may just be a difference in experiences then. A lot of interviews I've seen with actors and such have them asked about their opinions about related things. (Comic actors get asked about things in the comics all the time.) I guess a fan production is a little different but I know voice actors get asked about fan stuff all the time, including showing up in fanworks and such, so to me that just feels like the kinda question I'd expect someone to get asked.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:33
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Oh hey, the channel's back.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:35
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CharlestheHammer posted:They are asking his opinion, by definition it is relevant to him. This conversation is perplexing. That's not really true. If I started asking you about agriculture in England circa 1323, it would not become a relevant topic to you.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:41
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Josuke Higashikata posted:That's not really true. Yes it would because you asked my opinion. I would tell you I dunno but I wouldn't be upset.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:42
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I think it's more that he's probably been asked the same question a million times. Also Sean said like 5 years ago that he liked DBZA and hoped they didn't get sued.
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