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computer parts posted:apparently Siri might show up in 10.12 tim really has a bug up his rear end telling him to do what microsoft does, doesn't he
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Feb 24, 2016 17:59
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carry on then posted:tim really has a bug up his rear end telling him to do what microsoft does, doesn't he I'm sorry, did you mean »“the right choice”?
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Feb 24, 2016 18:01
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carry on then posted:tim really has a bug up his rear end telling him to do what microsoft does, doesn't he Siri what is unique selling point?
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Feb 24, 2016 18:03
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happy 61st birthday, steve
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Feb 24, 2016 18:12
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qirex posted:at least wait until the march 15 event to buy apple stuff yeah I'm not gonna buy till the summer. I was going to in the fall but then I figured I'd wait until the refresh at that point. I like the idea of the macbook but lol 1 port
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Feb 24, 2016 18:36
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graph posted:happy 61st birthday, steve woz or ballmer?
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Feb 24, 2016 18:38
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Ludwig van Halen posted:given a lawful court order Again, not lawful. The court cannot compel apple to develop a totally new software product at no cost.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:18
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as an aapl shareholder I think they should do it but bill the government 1 billion dollars per device
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Feb 24, 2016 19:19
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maniacdevnull posted:Again, not lawful. The court cannot compel apple to develop a totally new software product at no cost. that's the debate but historically the government absolutely can compel you to do work for them to produce evidence
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Feb 24, 2016 19:30
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Shaggar posted:that's the debate but historically the government absolutely can compel you to do work for them to produce evidence This would be a totally new software solution, and is completely different from what happens with things like wiretapping where the company already knows how to do it. They can't order a private company to develop a novel invention simply because they really really want one.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:44
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it would be new like a patch to an os is totally new.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:54
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carry on then posted:tim really has a bug up his rear end telling him to do what microsoft does, doesn't he motherfuck that cortana search bar on Windows that makes me click and then click again in a different place to type in it
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Feb 24, 2016 20:31
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infernal machines posted:and it's still not a backdoor and it still doesn't weaken or break the encryption the strength of an encryption is the totality of the system not just the algorithm and if you make it easier to break into the phone the encryption is effectively weakened
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Feb 24, 2016 20:44
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could Apple play a constant cat and mouse and weaken this one but then constantly change the way encryption works so anyone on iOS 10 for example the same system wouldn't work?
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Feb 24, 2016 20:45
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computer parts posted:apparently Siri might show up in 10.12 and in 10.11, 10.10, 10.13, 10.14, ... Apple rumours are basically to guess anything and to keep announcing it for each and every new version.
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Feb 24, 2016 21:05
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lol itunes connect. i start typing in a field and it autocompletes. im okay with this so I hit enter. it submits the whole form. "error, you didn't fill out all the fields in the form! Also we cleared the fields you did fill out because gently caress you." i fill them all out again being careful not to press enter. then I click the submit button. "Error, an error occurred, click here to return to the iTC homepage, gently caress you" 
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Feb 24, 2016 21:24
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theflyingexecutive posted:motherfuck that cortana search bar on Windows that makes me click and then click again in a different place to type in it um if you press winkey and start typing or click there and start typing it behaves correctly
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Feb 24, 2016 22:16
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echinopsis posted:the strength of an encryption is the totality of the system not just the algorithm and if you make it easier to break into the phone the encryption is effectively weakened no, it's not, that's completely wrong. i know you guys are mad about the government and stuff, but please try to use words properly instead of trying to redefine them to fit whatever your argument is. that's newspeak and it's doubleplus ungood
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Feb 24, 2016 23:21
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its about the vibe man
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Feb 24, 2016 23:39
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its funny when americans tell me i have to accept the rightness of their governments "lawful order" or i have to put away my opinions and rally around kkklinton to stop a republican president if I were actually an american I think i would be even MORE insulted by these comments
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Feb 24, 2016 23:51
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THC posted:its funny when americans tell me i have to accept the rightness of their governments "lawful order" Ron Paul 2016
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Feb 24, 2016 23:57
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THC posted:its funny when americans tell me i have to accept the rightness of their governments "lawful order" if you were american, you wound't be so much of a loving idiot to make a post this bad.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:02
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infernal machines posted:no, it's not, that's completely wrong. i know you guys are mad about the government and stuff, but please try to use words properly instead of trying to redefine them to fit whatever your argument is. the security of the system depends on the whole system and this is a backdoor around a security feature.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:04
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theultimo posted:Ron Paul 2016
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Feb 25, 2016 00:07
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kwinkles posted:the security of the system depends on the whole system and this is a backdoor around a security feature. i don't know how many time this has to be said before you idiots comprehend this. disabling pin lockouts and removing pin delays does not in any way shape or form remove, bypass, backdoor, disable, alter, or weaken the encryption. it does weaken the security of the device, no argument. but the encryption itself is unchanged.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:10
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yeah I don't really see it as weakening encryption, they just want to brute force the passcode. i presume the only reason they're doing that rather than dumping the storage is because the decryption keys are also in the secure enclave
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Feb 25, 2016 00:27
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oh no i guess this will be great news for android or blackberry http://www.maricopacountyattorney.org/newsroom/news-releases/2016/2016-02-24-MCAO-to-Discontinue-Providing-Apple-iPhones-to-Employees.html PHOENIX – Effective immediately, the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office will discontinue providing iPhones as option for replacements or upgrades for existing employees. Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery announced the decision today, first communicated to applicable staff on Sunday, February 21, citing Apple’s recent refusal to cooperate in unlocking an encrypted iPhone used by individuals involved in the recent San Bernardino shootings. “Apple’s refusal to cooperate with a legitimate law enforcement investigation to unlock a phone used by terrorists puts Apple on the side of terrorists instead of on the side of public safety,” Montgomery said. “Positioning their refusal to cooperate as having anything to do with privacy interests is a corporate PR stunt and ignores the 4th Amendment protections afforded by our Constitution.”
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Feb 25, 2016 00:28
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infernal machines posted:i don't know how many time this has to be said before you idiots comprehend this. disabling pin lockouts and removing pin delays does not in any way shape or form remove, bypass, backdoor, disable, alter, or weaken the encryption. the security of the system depends on the whole system and this is a backdoor around a security feature.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:29
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gargle chome posted:the security of the system depends on the whole system and this is a backdoor around a security feature. no loving poo poo. what does that have to do with the encryption?
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Feb 25, 2016 00:31
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Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack kind of a stupid headline since that's already what they tried to make, but apparently they're making it even harder in response to the governments BS funny because there's currently a tonne of ways they can hack a phone, and they do help, but now that option may go away due to their audacity here http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/technology/apple-is-said-to-be-working-on-an-iphone-even-it-cant-hack.html
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Feb 25, 2016 00:34
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uncurable mlady posted:yeah I don't really see it as weakening encryption, they just want to brute force the passcode. i presume the only reason they're doing that rather than dumping the storage is because the decryption keys are also in the secure enclave it's a 5c, so it doesn't have the same secure enclave as 5s and newer phones. presumably this is being done because they've decided they need a lawful process by which they can retrieve data from secured phones. this is more about process than anything else and that's why the furious pearl clutching going on is hilarious. they still need a pin to decrypt the data on a per-phone basis, they need a court order and a one-off custom firmware from apple every single time security is not encryption, encryption is not security, if you believe otherwise you have no business pontificating about either. words have meanings, use them properly
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Feb 25, 2016 00:36
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infernal machines posted:it's a 5c, so it doesn't have the same secure enclave as 5s and newer phones. presumably this is being done because they've decided they need a lawful process by which they can retrieve data from secured phones. this is more about process than anything else and that's why the furious pearl clutching going on is hilarious. so why not just dump the memory and keys if there's no secure enclave?
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Feb 25, 2016 00:40
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infernal machines posted:it's a 5c, so it doesn't have the same secure enclave as 5s and newer phones. presumably this is being done because they've decided they need a lawful process by which they can retrieve data from secured phones. this is more about process than anything else and that's why the furious pearl clutching going on is hilarious. if i'm not mistaken, the secure enclave just has to do with finger prints. nothing else. the phone itself is encrypted so the data can't just be read by removing the storage chips and reading them. and the phone will wipe itself if there's too many bad attempts. they want apple to remove the feature that wipes the phone after bad attempts.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:41
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uncurable mlady posted:so why not just dump the memory and keys if there's no secure enclave? presumably because they can't PleasureKevin posted:they want apple to remove the feature that wipes the phone after bad attempts. and the timeout between attempts, and to add a feature that lets them enter a pin over the lightning connection
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Feb 25, 2016 00:47
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infernal machines posted:presumably because they can't haha hahaha
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Feb 25, 2016 01:05
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infernal machines posted:security is not encryption, encryption is not security, if you believe otherwise you have no business pontificating about either i love it they're going to make a phone that's going to be an absolute nightmare in terms of userfriendliness pitching the toys out of the pram as it were
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Feb 25, 2016 01:06
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broken clock opsec posted:i love it that hasn't helped android or windows
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Feb 25, 2016 01:07
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anyone using a hackintosh? how hard is it to update between versions if you pick the parts that tonymac suggests?
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THC posted:its funny when americans tell me i have to accept the rightness of their governments "lawful order" Sorry your too much of a tech slave to use only local tech products, and then think it's unfair when the country you import luxury goods from has the gall to do anything you don't like
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