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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Same, vander zalm can suck my nuts

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Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord


It's funny how BC gets to vote for their taxes but here in Ontario we just get TAXES the OLP and we like it.

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008
Personally, the less we have provinces imitating California with everything put to a ballot proposition, the better. At least until someone figures out how to design the system so that it doesn't become stuck in a giant collective action problem.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Cultural Imperial posted:

gently caress all you dumb assholes who voted down the bc HST btw

:agreed:

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
How does Facebook react to Ontario TAXES you ask?



This guy seems to have it pretty rough, TAXES going up and all. Let's dig deeper to see how rough it really is.



:qq: such hardship

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
I hear that entitled Yelp girl had both a refrigerator and a cell phone!

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
Yeah raising energy costs are the best way to stick it to the rich.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

cowofwar posted:

I hear that entitled Yelp girl had both a refrigerator and a cell phone!

Don't forget rice, she made that very clear I'm shocked you would forget.

Ikantski posted:

Yeah raising energy costs are the best way to stick it to the rich.

The poor can get hydro rate assistance actually :monocle:

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

jm20 posted:

The poor can get hydro rate assistance actually :monocle:

Hilarious bud. I'm a poor rural Hydro One customer. My net family income is less than 28k. I have a wife and two kids. My average 800kw monthly bill is $210. Now it's $177 with OESP. Thanks for the 15% break, Wynne. Now I only pay 2014 prices for 2016 electricity, woop.

Oh and because I'm poor, I'm not that savvy at signing up for this poo poo or so poor that it wouldn't make a difference and there's a good chance I'm one of the 93% of poor households that didn't sign up for it, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/energy-rebate-ontario-low-income-1.3356486

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008
Why in the hell is that rebate application-based? They couldn't work it into when you file taxes, like the other provincial rebate checks I've been getting seem to be triggered off of? Or if they absolutely wanted to ensure people got these rebates now and not in 6 months, do the same thing by issuing the rebate to people who had filed taxes the previously year and qualified based on income?

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

AegisP posted:

Why in the hell is that rebate application-based? They couldn't work it into when you file taxes, like the other provincial rebate checks I've been getting seem to be triggered off of? Or if they absolutely wanted to ensure people got these rebates now and not in 6 months, do the same thing by issuing the rebate to people who had filed taxes the previously year and qualified based on income?

The reason is because OLP? It would cost $210m instead of $14m if everyone signed up for it. They've made a corresponding OESP charge so ratepayers who don't qualify for it cover the cost, it doesn't come out of general revenue.

quote:

OESP charge has been set for all consumers at $0.0011 per kilowatt hour for electricity used as of January 1, 2016. We expect this program to cost the average residential customer about 93 cents each month.

Strangely, this wasn't voluntary

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Ikantski posted:

Hilarious bud. I'm a poor rural Hydro One customer. My net family income is less than 28k. I have a wife and two kids. My average 800kw monthly bill is $210. Now it's $177 with OESP. Thanks for the 15% break, Wynne. Now I only pay 2014 prices for 2016 electricity, woop.

Oh and because I'm poor, I'm not that savvy at signing up for this poo poo or so poor that it wouldn't make a difference and there's a good chance I'm one of the 93% of poor households that didn't sign up for it, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/energy-rebate-ontario-low-income-1.3356486

I was being facetious, but living in the Ontario boonies means you get cheap houses / higher utilities.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




jm20 posted:

I was being facetious, but living in the Ontario boonies means you get cheap houses / higher utilities.

Except the housing isnt really that much cheaper, at least not right now. I occasionally travel through the Kawarthas and the prices are still ludicrous. And the ever increasing number of lovely little gated communities and cottage towns going up is not helping.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Kawartha lakes lol, that's a cottage community. Try Parry Sound or beyond. Even then the problem is there are no jobs unless you are self employed. Another issue is people from the boobies who come to the city Come with basically no wealth. If you do the inverse you are objectively wealthy as hell.

E was going to fix auto correct but nahhh

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




jm20 posted:

Kawartha lakes lol, that's a cottage community. Try Parry Sound or beyond. Even then the problem is there are no jobs unless you are self employed. Another issue is people from the boobies who come to the city Come with basically no wealth. If you do the inverse you are objectively wealthy as hell.

E was going to fix auto correct but nahhh

Thank you for not fixing it. Its much more powerful and appropriate the way it is.

Parry Sound is also cottage country by the way. :v:

Ron_Jeremy
Sep 29, 2003

Isn't everyone agreeing with CI one of the signs of the apocalypse? I'd like to hear from someone who voted against the HST just so I can stop looking for horsemen.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ron_Jeremy posted:

Isn't everyone agreeing with CI one of the signs of the apocalypse? I'd like to hear from someone who voted against the HST just so I can stop looking for horsemen.

Since we turned around and just re-elected the Liberals in a landslide, no one really talks about how furious the HST made them and how they voted against it.

~~~

In further BC news, the BC Liberals announced plans to create a licensing scheme for dog and cat breeders due to a recent puppy mill seizure. Kudos where due, it will probably be good legislation. It occurred to me when they announced it yesterday that the last time I could actually recall them announcing legislation was the introduction of the HST in 2010. Obviously they have done something in past five and a half years, like undoing HST, creating infinite jobs with LNG and murdertragically misplacing children in care, but for an actual legislative change I drew a complete blank.

The first actual new piece of legislation in almost six years that we have needed because BC is just that awesome.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

Ron_Jeremy posted:

Isn't everyone agreeing with CI one of the signs of the apocalypse? I'd like to hear from someone who voted against the HST just so I can stop looking for horsemen.

I voted against the HST, but only because I hated the BC Liberals. Twelve months after it was repealed I started working at an accounting firm, so I got to sort through the aftermath of the transition.

Basically what I'm saying is referendums are stupid.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Whiskey Sours posted:

I voted against the HST, but only because I hated the BC Liberals. Twelve months after it was repealed I started working at an accounting firm, so I got to sort through the aftermath of the transition.

Basically what I'm saying is referendums are stupid.

I had the same impulse, but Bill van der Zalm was there to point the way. It's always 180 degrees from wherever he's pointing.

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

Hexigrammus posted:

I had the same impulse, but Bill van der Zalm was there to point the way. It's always 180 degrees from wherever he's pointing.

What about when he's pointing at the suitcase of cash?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Whiskey Sours posted:

I voted against the HST, but only because I hated the BC Liberals. Twelve months after it was repealed I started working at an accounting firm, so I got to sort through the aftermath of the transition.

Basically what I'm saying is referendums are stupid.

Guys, I found a full fledged retard in this thread

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Whiskey Sours posted:

I voted against the HST, but only because I hated the BC Liberals

2nd only to the argument

"Well the tax sounds good, but I just don't like how the Liberals brought it in!"

that'll... show them?

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

JawKnee posted:

2nd only to the argument

"Well the tax sounds good, but I just don't like how the Liberals brought it in!"

that'll... show them?

No you see, during the election they wrote a letter to someone saying they probably wouldn't do an HST.

No one read that letter, or was aware of it's existence during the election, but it proved that they are LIARS so getting behind noted truth teller Bill Vander Zalm just makes sense.

e: also re-electing them because they are just so good at governing

ocrumsprug fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Feb 25, 2016

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
B.C. Liberals hire 12 ousted federal and Alberta Conservatives


Hahaha, gently caress this province and burn it to the ground. I hope everyone who votes for these shitheaps next year ends up begging for scraps in their old age, in the drained husk that was BC.

quote:

Included in the wave is Nicholas Koolsbergen, Harper’s former director of issues management, who once made headlines for purportedly co-writing a memo requesting government staff to develop “enemy” lists for incoming ministers.

Koolsbergen, whose resumé includes a one-year stint as the director of communications for Calgary MP Jason Kenney, was appointed an executive director in the B.C. government’s communications wing — Government Communications and Public Engagement (GCPE) — effective Jan. 22, 2016, according to Order in Council No. 21. He will be paid between $80,000 and $113,000 a year.

quote:

Other appointments, ranging from executive assistants to chiefs of staff, have been to key B.C. ministries, including: health; jobs, tourism and skills training; environment; and justice. Carter Mann, one-time press secretary to former MP Kerry-Lynne Findlay, was appointed the new operations co-ordinator in the Premier’s Office.

These aren't elected roles. This scum will be floating around and polluting the offices for years in the slim chance the Liberals lose power. They're salting the earth to ensure that even if they lose office, they'll still be able to gently caress things up from beyond the grave.

:gonk:

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Hey man. Hey. Lots of BC Libs are Federal Libs. You know, the party you progressives are all hot and bothered for? The one that invited Bill Blair, Literal Fascist Pig Fucker into its ranks. Yeah that one. See our BC Libs actually not so bad! What are you complaining about!

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
So you would rather a dumb retard like John Horgan run this province? Lmao

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

He thinks Voyager is the best star trek so, no.

don't worry he will never be Premier

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

Cultural Imperial posted:

Guys, I found a full fledged retard in this thread

Quoting this because yes, yes I am.

At least I'd probably make a better Premier than Adrian Dix.

cheese sandwich
Feb 9, 2009

THC posted:

He thinks Voyager is the best star trek so, no.

don't worry he will never be Premier

Does that mean we can shoot him into the delta quadrant

e: lol oh no guys

http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/manitoba-politician-calls-in-sick-after-proposing-new-law-forbiding-bosses-from-requesting-sick-notes-1.2789689 posted:

There was an empty chair in place of an MLA in the legislature Wednesday.

Dave Gaudreau, a backbencher in the NDP government, called in sick.

Only a day before, the MLA proposed a new law that would forbid bosses from requesting sick notes until a worker has missed at least seven days in a calendar year.

Gaudreau said forcing workers to get a doctor's note wastes health care resources and often requires workers to pay a fee for the note.
Some medical groups have also criticized the use of sick notes, including the Ontario Medical Association, which says a worker who gets a doctor's note can spread germs to other patients.

But some business groups have argued that sick notes are needed to manage absenteeism and ensure workers are getting treated for their illness.
“There are definitely impacts to this. There might be benefits to the health care system, but it sure sounds like the employer will have to wear the brunt of it,” said Brad Lutz, president of Acuity HR Solutions on Wednesday.
Lutz, a 20-year human resources specialist, said the proposal has good intentions, but ultimately contains flaws for combating the realities of the workplace.

“It is a real issue in many workplaces, especially with summers being so short in Winnipeg. People definitely want as much time off as they can,” said Lutz. “If there’s a situation where they want time off; they’re going to call in sick.”

In Manitoba, there is currently no legislation on sick notes.

Lutz said many employers will require a sick note after many consecutive absences, or at the third consecutive absence. For problematic situations, an employer could also request medical confirmation more often; either way, it’s an issue that requires judgement based on the situation.

“The ‘Friday Flu’ is exactly the problem that many employers will have. You get into the middle of summertime and an employee decides to take Friday’s off and has the flu every Friday during the beautiful summer days,” he said.

“Unfortunately, with this sort of proposal, it would make it difficult for the employer to truly understand what’s going on.”

As for what a solution could be, Lutz points to suggestions he’s heard that employers pay for the doctor’s notes. He said, many already do.

“I wouldn’t suggest that’s necessarily the route that needs to go, but it would help employers perhaps exercise some good judgement when they do want that doctor’s note,” he said.

Lutz also noted the possible conflict this proposed legislation could have with the NDP’s current laws allowing three days of family leave.
Family leave can be unpaid, and employers have the right to ask workers for verification – whether a medical or family note – to explain the absence.

“That’s a three day provision…and now you can go seven days without needing a doctor’s note? That seems to be a little contradictory,” said Lutz.
Additionally, Lutz said the ripple effect of such legislation could impact workplace morale as coworkers pick up the slack and even take on more hours. This could further create overtime issues for employers.

Gaudreau hopes to have his proposed law debated in the legislature in the coming weeks, but admits there are no guarantees it will be discussed before the Apr. 19 provincial election.

Thanks CTV!

cheese sandwich fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 25, 2016

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Ikantski posted:

Hilarious bud. I'm a poor rural Hydro One customer. My net family income is less than 28k. I have a wife and two kids. My average 800kw monthly bill is $210. Now it's $177 with OESP. Thanks for the 15% break, Wynne. Now I only pay 2014 prices for 2016 electricity, woop.

Oh and because I'm poor, I'm not that savvy at signing up for this poo poo or so poor that it wouldn't make a difference and there's a good chance I'm one of the 93% of poor households that didn't sign up for it, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/energy-rebate-ontario-low-income-1.3356486

Uh huh.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Slightly Toasted posted:

Does that mean we can shoot him into the delta quadrant

e: lol oh no guys


Thanks CTV!

Yes, because the issue here is the expense of a doctor's note and not the reason the fee was instituted in the first place: Because writing these notes is a waste of doctors' time and maybe charging silly amounts of money for it was meant to discourage the practice.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Slightly Toasted posted:

Does that mean we can shoot him into the delta quadrant

e: lol oh no guys


Thanks CTV!

oh no! paying for overtime~!

Those poor employers, gonna have to pay $16 an hour for some of their workers!

I'm glad some of these businesses revenue is so razor thin that paying overtime will cause them to go under

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Hypothetically of course.

Ontarians are going to hear that the deficit for 2015/16 was $7.5 billion quite a few times today. When you hear that and how it's sooo far below their targets, please remember they're including the 15% of Hydro One sale in that figure. That money is earmarked to move from general revenue to trillium trust this spring and the structural deficit is still $8.6b, right on target.

They know that too, it was exactly what they forecast last year.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

quote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-citizenship-act-repeal-bill-1.3463471?cmp=rss

John McCallum moves to repeal Conservatives' citizenship revocations

C-24 seems to be on the amendment radar as expected

quote:

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/former-harper-aide-pushing-for-proportional-representation/

Former Harper aide pushing for proportional representation

Guy Giorno says he is promoting electoral reform because it would be fairer and more representative

OTTAWA – The Conservatives’ former national campaign director is helping to spearhead a push to bring proportional representation to Canada — despite his own party’s apparent aversion to changing the current electoral system.

Guy Giorno says it doesn’t matter what parties and politicians think about electoral reform.

He says he is promoting PR because it would be fairer and more representative, producing a House of Commons where each party’s share of the seats reflects their share of the popular vote.

Giorno, who also served as former prime minister Stephen Harper’s chief of staff, is a member of a new, multi-partisan group that is launching Thursday to push for PR.

The Every Voter Counts Alliance includes former Privy Council clerk Alex Himelfarb and wide range of groups from YWCA Canada to labour unions, the Canadian Federation of Students and Fair Vote Canada.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has promised that last fall’s federal election would be the last fought under first-past-the-post rules, which routinely result in a party winning a majority of Commons seats with less than 40 per cent of the vote.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

I pity Ontario for being stuck between Brown and Wynne. It seems you're buggered either way.

Ming the Merciless
Aug 10, 2005
You're a beard with an idiot hanging off of it.
Is there a comprehensive list somewhere of all the lovely legislation pushed through by the Conservatives that was overturned by the courts? I want a measure of how much time and money was wasted for partisan bullshit over the last ten years.

I kinda wish C-24 was overturned by the Supreme Court instead of being amended by a new government. That way there would at least be precedent to stop it from happening again!

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

El Scotch posted:

I pity Ontario for being stuck between Brown and Wynne. It seems you're buggered either way.

Brown actually seems reasonable in terms of listening to feedback, its the people behind the man that worry me. I figure the only way the PCs could do worse than Wynne is if Mike Harris tried to run again. We cannot get rid of this idiot soon enough, just a total disaster.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

The Gunslinger posted:

Brown actually seems reasonable in terms of listening to feedback, its the people behind the man that worry me. I figure the only way the PCs could do worse than Wynne is if Mike Harris tried to run again. We cannot get rid of this idiot soon enough, just a total disaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3Fg

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Slightly Toasted posted:

Does that mean we can shoot him into the delta quadrant

e: lol oh no guys


Thanks CTV!

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE EMPLOYERS!

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ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

DariusLikewise posted:

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE EMPLOYERS!

literally every time I am asked for a doctor's note I ask how I'll be reimbursed for the $50 it costs. Generally the response is mumblemumble just dont get sick again mumble

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