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Patter Song posted:Ok, I just realized something. Is he going to be replaced by a body snatcher who's good at politics?
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CTH got into the weeds with the roadmap and the strategy years ago and they have a knack for predicting poo poo days before it happens
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:what I am saying is that none of these things matter Hillary has never had a real election challenge when running for office. The current political zeitgeist is also much more angry and gently caress the establishment than the 90s.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:29
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Oh my God, this Mitt Romney thing is it. This is the strategy. They got Mitt to say something, knowing that Trump will bitch about it for a week straight. And then Rubio sucker punches him out of nowhere at the debate tomorrow, and Trump is stumped. I like this theory.
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CubsWoo posted:CTH got into the weeds with the roadmap and the strategy years ago and they have a knack for predicting poo poo days before it happens Honestly I'm excited to see a media attention pissing match between the ratfuckers and The Donald. It should be epic.
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I enjoy the theory that the GOPe is some Machiavellian illuminati and they are playing 12th dimensional chess with Donald Trump rather than they are just having surrogates shotgun to see what sticks because goddamn its in the spirit of this election. Please continue, governors.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:31
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etalian posted:Hillary has never had a real election challenge when running for office. It's an enormous indictment of how bad the Republicans are at attacking that people think Darrell Issa and Trey Gowdy's limp swipes at Hillary count as really putting her through the wringer.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:32
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Montasque posted:The danger that Hillary will have is that no one is enthused to vote her... instead people will be enthused to vote for, and against, Donald Trump. yeah I want to see what the turnout numbers look like for Super Tuesday, if the trend carries over from the early contests it looks like there is a record breaking GOP turnout and a depressed turnout for Democrats I (sloppily) threw together all the results for the current contests 
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Feb 25, 2016 06:33
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Just so everyone knows - Marco Rubio is going to win tomorrow's debate.
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Schnorkles posted:I enjoy the theory that the GOPe is some Machiavellian illuminati and they are playing 12th dimensional chess with Donald Trump rather than they are just having surrogates shotgun to see what sticks because goddamn its in the spirit of this election. Yeah because with trillions of dollars on the line everyone is playing without strategy.
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mannerup posted:yeah I want to see what the turnout numbers look like for Super Tuesday, if the trend carries over from the early contests it looks like there is a record breaking GOP turnout and a depressed turnout for Democrats please check democratic turn out numbers from 1988 and republican turn out numbers in 2000 re: the primaries. These things might mean slightly less than you are attributing to them!
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Montasque posted:Just so everyone knows - Marco Rubio is going to win tomorrow's debate. except on drudge, time, all of the online polls, etc.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:35
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Despera posted:How many republicans will simply not vote for Trump ever? There more people like Beck and Erickson out there? Yes, lots. Red State, the Federalist, National Review, the David Frums, David Brookses, George Wills, etc. It goes on and on. There will be a not small, vocal group of Republicans who will endorse Hillary over Trump. The articles are already being written. Trump (or his campaign at least) is literally insane and a national security risk, and most of the "conservative intellectuals" will reject him outright.
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Here's my theory low Democrat turnout despite high rally attendance: The Bernie fans are going to rallies because it's a way to meet emotionally fired up men or women who will feel a shared connection and thus be down for a fun time. They aren't going to vote because that's boring, and it's more fun to spend Tuesday night banging whoever you met at the rally.Cigar Aficionado posted:Yes, lots. Red State, the Federalist, National Review, the David Frums, David Brookses, George Wills, etc. It goes on and on. We don't care. They can all fit comfortably in one DC bar.
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the 1988 comparison was interesting. from the internet perspective it looks like an uninspiring candidate sleepwalking to her doom, and maybe that's the truth. if super tuesday is good for bernie that argument gains strength. on the other hand if it isn't, the alternate argument, that people don't turn out for a coronation but will for the general election, comes to the fore not to mention the question as to whether trump's positive turnout will be greater than his negative turnout. there was talk about that in those heady days after iowa, when high turnout did not push trump to a win, and while such an anti-trump outlook can't be maintained any more, it's worth pointing out that even among republicans a decent proportion of the increased trump turnout has been anti rather than pro. how will that dynamic play out in november, amongst the general populace?
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I think every attack the Republican higher-ups make against Trump only further proves that they're out of touch and it's Trump with his finger on the pulse.
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User posted:Here's my theory low Democrat turnout despite high rally attendance: The Bernie fans are going to rallies because it's a way to meet emotionally fired up men or women who will feel a shared connection and thus be down for a fun time. They aren't going to vote because that's boring, and it's more fun to spend Tuesday night banging whoever you met at the rally. You think pro-lifers are going to vote for someone who thinks planned parenthood is great?
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User posted:Yeah because with trillions of dollars on the line everyone is playing without strategy. Except wouldn't they have screwed him.. I don't know, before he became legitimate? Yes forums poster, the only way to stomp donald trump was to let him win and THEN deploy our secret weapon of Mitt Romney. Or, you know, the GOP is struggling with uniting a fractured caucus and maybe didn't expect he would be as successful as he was or that their best perceived candidates [Walker, Perry, Bush] would be as DoA as they now are.
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Despera posted:You think pro-lifers are going to vote for someone who thinks planned parenthood is great? Yes. Schnorkles posted:Except wouldn't they have screwed him.. I don't know, before he became legitimate? Even monkeys fall from trees. And Trump is the Mule. He hijacked Jeb!'s spot in the plan. User fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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etalian posted:Hillary has never had a real election challenge when running for office. 
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Schnorkles posted:please check democratic turn out numbers from 1988 and republican turn out numbers in 2000 re: the primaries. There are 78 million more people in America today than there was in 1988 38 if you're looking at just 2000 vs 1988
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Feb 25, 2016 06:41
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User posted:Yes. That 39% of republicans who will never support trump is complete bullshit?
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Despera posted:That 39% of republicans who will never support trump is complete bullshit? Yes.
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User posted:Yeah because with trillions of dollars on the line everyone is playing without strategy. The GOPe are a fractured and diffused group of people with competing objectives that sometimes overlap. Sure they want to gently caress over Trump, but I doubt there's ONE effort to do so... With that said the Romney faction of the GOPe have been actively anti-Trump since January.. Our Principles Pac lead by Romney aide Katie Packer for instance had attack ads against Trump in Iowa. Stuart Stevens have been all over the news with his ANTI-TRUMP play book... Now big R-Money coming swinging at Trump over TAX RETURNS... Something is afoot but how effective will it all be?
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Montasque posted:Just so everyone knows - Marco Rubio is going to win tomorrow's debate. Do you mean win or  win
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Brannock posted:There are 78 million more people in America today than there was in 1988 You've caught me in my lies. I admit defeat.
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^was there a comparison between the parties' primary turnouts in 88 and 00 or was the raw number comparison he debunked all there was to it? i wanted to believeDespera posted:That 39% of republicans who will never support trump is complete bullshit? i gave the stat so ill provide the caveats; in south carolina, and never supporting in the primary, not the general there's probably a poll out there with the questions asked wrt the general, and with democrats' numbers for hillary in the same question, that would get at this better, but i'm not going to find it tonight. i think the 39% stat is an indicator of a real problem trump will have with these guys, though. especially if he p͙͚͍͉̖̟͔̗̗̪̅̀̐̋̇͒͗̃̌͠i̧̯̬͎̱̖̞̻͎̔̐͊͋͑̈́̽͌͆̕͜v͕̥̖̖͖͔͎̪̹͔̾̌͊̌̍̐̀͘͝͝o̧̡̪̱̜̯̙̘͇͉͒̂̈́̊̾̈́̎̑͊͋ţ̛̤̜͍̠̳̪͔̟̰̇͂̀̅̆͂͊̊͝s vv these loving people. rick scott would be such a gloriously bad pick, he can barely win florida in republican wave midterm elections. but pundits probably know this poo poo, they just say it to get us talking. this is exactly what sports journalism calls a 'hot take' which is why that term has become so popular - because every type of journalist, not just the ones who are supposed to be frivolous, does it oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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Chris Cillizza floated Rick Scott as a possible Trump VP, which is cool because I always thought the Lincoln Memorial would be much better as a shrine to Mammon.
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Necc0 posted:Do you mean win or win then Trump will win all the online polls.
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User posted:Yes. Not every republican is an idiot. Some realize he is further to the left of Hillary on quite a few issues.
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Brannock posted:There are 78 million more people in America today than there was in 1988 i mean ffs. The point I was making is that democratic turnout in 1988 was significantly higher than republican turnout and was a record [and honestly, the highest turnout until 2008]. GHWB, uh, well he won. In 2000 Republican turnout absolutely stomped Democratic turnout, and Al Gore won the popular vote. Turnout in primaries =/= Turnout in general elections
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Her too senate election wins were softballs, it's no wonder that she struggles so much in contested races and makes the same strategic errors.
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Despera posted:Not every republican is an idiot. Some realize he is further to the left of Hillary on quite a few issues. Yes but none of those issues is immigration, exporting jobs, or political corruption. Most republicans don't give a gently caress if Glenn "I wear trilbys lol" Beck thinks Trump is a conservative or not.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:49
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Remember when McCain picked Palin and he was going to win the goddamn presidency?
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Despera posted:That 39% of republicans who will never support trump is complete bullshit? There's no way it's actually 39% - a lot of those folks will either warm to Trump or be terrified of the prospect of Literal Devil Incarnate Hillary Clinton becoming president that they pull the lever. But it doesn't take a lot to be a problem. Schnorkles posted:Except wouldn't they have screwed him.. I don't know, before he became legitimate? Plus they don't want to drop anti-Trump bombs if they don't have to, because they (a) don't want to alienate his supporters and (b) don't want him going Third Party.
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Despera posted:That 39% of republicans who will never support trump is complete bullshit? "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line"
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Necc0 posted:Do you mean win or Rubio hasn't really won a debate yet, but he sure did lose one and lose one badly. Despite knowing deep down that these things aren't about substance at all, an awful lot of stupid journalists seem easily impressed by applause lines and well-rehearsed policy statements. It's like now that Trump is clearly winning these debates through sheer force of will, charisma, and stage presence, substance matters when it really doesn't. the whole "online polls  " ignores the fact that Trump really has been winning these debates.
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User posted:Yes but none of those issues is immigration, exporting jobs, or political corruption. Most republicans don't give a gently caress if Glenn "I wear trilbys lol" Beck thinks Trump is a conservative or not. They do care if "Fed manages their lands great".
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Mister Fister posted:"Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line" Thats why Sanders is winning the nom.
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