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cremnob posted:ok i dont care cause ill continue to post links news articles You're a human being, and nobody reads or enjoys your posts, we just have to scroll past an RSS bot in the middle of the Apple AIDS Discussion THread (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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add me to ur ignore list then cause i dont give a gently caress
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Feb 25, 2016 08:45
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Larry Parrish posted:You're a human being not cool. what would Tim say
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THC posted:not cool. what would Tim say Larry Parrish posted:You're a human being
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Feb 25, 2016 08:50
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doubt it
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he might if he was in bed with cremnob and is the top
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Feb 25, 2016 08:59
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Linguica posted:less than a year after launch wow! great deal on AIDS
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Feb 25, 2016 12:22
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DaNzA posted:
there's no evidence or even a suggestion that they've found a flaw in the encryption itself. so, nothing like wep the whole reason they want to be able to enter pins over the lightning connection is because they still have to brute force the pin to get in, and they don't have a cool robot that pokes the screen with a stylus
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Feb 25, 2016 16:40
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Linguica posted:less than a year after launch 🎶 looks like we made it 🎤
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Linguica posted:less than a year after launch refurbished
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Feb 25, 2016 19:45
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lol Shortly after the its acquisition of Sharp was announced, Foxconn put the deal on hold after "discovering previously undisclosed liabilities." Foxconn said it would not sign off on the deal until terms had been clarified. At issue is hundreds of billions of yen in liabilities which Sharp will need to resolve before the deal is finalized. japan is corrupt as hell
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Feb 25, 2016 20:02
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Larry Parrish posted:You're a human being, and nobody reads or enjoys your posts, we just have to scroll past an RSS bot in the middle of the Apple AIDS Discussion THread 1. who the gently caress are you 2. yeah it really takes away from infernal machines 100-post aspergers tour de force about how the media is using a word slightly inaccurately in a way completely meaningless to the point of the story
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Feb 25, 2016 20:03
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senpai notice me! perhaps if the media were reporting on what was actually happening rather than apple's pr spin these things wouldn't need to be said
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Feb 25, 2016 20:06
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infernal machines posted:it's really convenient to handwave away the specifics of the fbi's request to make it fit into a narrative about erosion of privacy rights, as apple has done
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Feb 25, 2016 20:10
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Lol We told the cops they can't kick in someone's door in the middle of the night and shoot them so they kicked in the window in the afternoon and shot them. This is a meaningful distinction and furthermore,
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Feb 25, 2016 20:13
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maniacdevnull posted:Lol also, the cops had a judge say it's okay to kick in the window and shoot them. that's the distinction. it's a problem, but it's a problem with the law
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Feb 25, 2016 20:16
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if the fbi already has a warrant to search the contents of your phone, you have a problem that encryption isn't going to solve
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Feb 25, 2016 20:19
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i have a question op isnt this the same as a bank vault? or safe deposit box? assuming the custom software or w/e can only be used on that one particular phone. i understand the impl;ication if it can be repurposed, but.. isnt that not whats in question here? im stupid.
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Feb 25, 2016 20:21
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the fbi already admitted they have a lineup of phones they want to use the same software on
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Feb 25, 2016 20:22
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Jenny Agutter posted:the fbi already admitted they have a lineup of phones they want to use the same software on thjen dont they need 2 get a warreant etc or idk im not a lawyer but the same search criteria? for each thing? like as if they were little bank vaults?
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Feb 25, 2016 20:24
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Smythe posted:i have a question op isnt this the same as a bank vault? or safe deposit box? assuming the custom software or w/e can only be used on that one particular phone. i understand the impl;ication if it can be repurposed, but.. isnt that not whats in question here? im stupid. Opening a bank vault is a normal part of what a bank does. Bypassing the security like the govt is asking apple to do would be something totally new that isn't a part of Apple's everyday business. If they were asking to reset a password or something, yeah, you're right, but that's not what this case is.
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Feb 25, 2016 20:25
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Smythe posted:i have a question op isnt this the same as a bank vault? or safe deposit box? assuming the custom software or w/e can only be used on that one particular phone. i understand the impl;ication if it can be repurposed, but.. isnt that not whats in question here? im stupid. no, that's exactly it. but because it's tech and apple has framed it like they're being asked to hand out a master key to everything everywhere, people are arguing about something that has already existed for decades like it's the end of the world
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Feb 25, 2016 20:27
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if they don't want to write the firmware, that's their business. their stated reasons for why they don't want to write the firmware are disingenuous
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Feb 25, 2016 20:29
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infernal machines posted:if they don't want to write the firmware, that's their business. their stated reasons for why they don't want to write the firmware are disingenuous Nah. The idea that the govt can force a company to perform new services and/or invent new products simply because they want it so much sets a really bad precedent.
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Feb 25, 2016 20:33
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just have Apple invoke the DMCA due to fbi trying to circumvent processes. done
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Feb 25, 2016 20:42
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maniacdevnull posted:Nah. The idea that the govt can force a company to perform new services and/or invent new products simply because they want it so much sets a really bad precedent. i absolutely agree. but that's not what's being advertised here. this has nothing to do with privacy or encryption, but that's what people are defending/opposing this based on, because that's how apple's pr has framed it
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Feb 25, 2016 20:48
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apple: we don't want the government to force us to make a product somehow that just doesn't grab the headlines as well
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Feb 25, 2016 20:50
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It's definitely an interesting case. I wonder what the precedents are of government compelling other operators to open other "impregnable" storage facilities.
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Feb 25, 2016 20:55
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i already have clients that cannot store data in any US hosted cloud because the feds have blanket access to anything on US servers
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Feb 25, 2016 20:56
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Smythe posted:It's definitely an interesting case. I wonder what the precedents are of government compelling other operators to open other "impregnable" storage facilities. if a bank vault or safe is locked, they can be compelled to open it with a code
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Feb 25, 2016 20:58
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infernal machines posted:i already have clients that cannot store data in any US hosted cloud because the feds have blanket access to anything on US servers yeah the ultimate ironing here is that apple has already given the NSA unfettered access to your data without any court order and nobody cares but the fbi taking the proper legal course for a single phone is apparently the apocalypse
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Feb 25, 2016 21:02
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Shaggar posted:yeah the ultimate ironing here is that apple has already given the NSA unfettered access to your data without any court order and nobody cares but the fbi taking the proper legal course for a single phone is apparently the apocalypse when your business is dying ever so slowly, the best way to boost sales and consumer confidence is to fabricate a good guy defense see: Xbox one
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Feb 25, 2016 21:04
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saying that a company must break into their products if asked is a de-facto ban on making unbreakable things. if you want to ban something it should be a law and politicians should vote on it so they can be accountable when people realize it was a bad idea all along
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Feb 25, 2016 21:04
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Shaggar posted:yeah the ultimate ironing here is that apple has already given the NSA unfettered access to your data without any court order and nobody cares but the fbi taking the proper legal course for a single phone is apparently the apocalypse i care
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Feb 25, 2016 21:05
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Shaggar posted:yeah the ultimate ironing here is that apple has already given the NSA unfettered access to your data without any court order and nobody cares but the fbi taking the proper legal course for a single phone is apparently the apocalypse it leads to weird scenarios where we can use azure storage, but not office 365, because azure is encrypted client-side and the keys are not stored in the cloud, but anything in the office cloud can be read by the feds
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Feb 25, 2016 21:10
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so iOS 9.3 will have Apple Music api access, hot drat
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Feb 25, 2016 21:36
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Shaggar posted:yeah the ultimate ironing here is that apple has already given the NSA unfettered access to your data without any court order and nobody cares but the fbi taking the proper legal course for a single phone is apparently the apocalypse also apple already gave the fbi the available icloud backup data from that phone's account so it's definitely not about privacy
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Feb 25, 2016 21:51
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yeah, but look at how hard people are cheer leading for them on the assumption that it is
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Feb 25, 2016 21:53
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infernal machines posted:yeah, but look at how hard people are cheer leading for them on the assumption that it is it's all about generating sales follow the money....
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they've already said they have hundreds of phones they want to do this with, so calling it "limited in scope" is lol.
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