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Do it ironically posted:Not that it matters because I'm probably going to be let go like most other people and then I'll move to another province, but the NDP hasn't done anything to support the private sector (mainly oil and gas) and all of the people losing jobs when there were opportunities to do so, as in give incentives on the short term as part of the royalty review till oil is more stable, push for an increased use of natural gas in Alberta, which we have an abundance of. Do it ironically posted:Hand out government contracts for things that would benefit the province like say land reclamation, abandoning orphan wells, groundwater testing, actual things that need to be done that would give the smaller companies and joe vac truck owner a job in the meanwhile. I've seen one government contract come through the pipeline and it was hilarious in how many companies tendered for it because there's no work  Albertan / Why can't you people understand WE are getting laid off THIS time.
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I think this general attitude people in this thread have towards Albertans is really hosed, but you're doing a good job of demonstrating why they have that attitude.
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Curious what this means. I have to say that in general I think osap is pretty fair for lower income people, but not really low income or kids of parents who aren't low income.
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Do it ironically posted:lol I love the smug attitude of everyone who hates alberta like it's not a part of canada, they're just jealous they didn't get in on it when it was good Yes our problems with Alberta stem from jealousy, alright.
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Imagine all the money that could be saved and all the private sector jobs created/saved if the government just fired all government workers and "contracted out" to get all the work done. That way no one would lose their jobs and the economy would be stimulated. PS Unemployed government workers don't hurt the economy.
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Do it ironically posted:lol I love the smug attitude of everyone who hates alberta like it's not a part of canada, they're just jealous they didn't get in on it when it was good Let me be clear, I don't hate Alberta or it's people. The layoffs happening must be a shock and probably suck for those affected. The attitude of albertans who demand bailouts for the private sector but go on to poo poo on the public sector as lazy people collecting free money is a joke. If we want to include personal experiences I'm always a quarter away form being laid off for my 3rd time in the past 10 years. Try these boots on for size and let me show you how sympathetic I feel to people that think I'm jealous of their situation.
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vainman posted:What departments do you feel are superfluous? the canadian forces the privy council
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http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/budget/ontariobudgets/2016/ I guess the big thing is shifting tuition grants around to focus on low income kids, it'll start 10 months before the next election. Cool. I haven't figured out how they got the deficit from 7.5 to 5.7b yet quote:The government is transforming student financial assistance to make postsecondary education more accessible and affordable. To help more students qualify for grants and access the student loan system, the government will create a single major upfront grant — the Ontario Student Grant (OSG), starting in the 2017–18 school year. This will be done by redirecting 100 per cent of the funding from the Ontario Tuition Grant, Ontario Student Opportunity Grant, Ontario Access Grants and other grants offered by OSAP. These changes will ensure that financial support is transparent, timely and targeted to those students with the greatest financial need.
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Ikantski posted:I haven't figured out how they got the deficit from 7.5 to 5.7b yet Harnessing the power of dyslexia
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Jordan7hm posted:I think this general attitude people in this thread have towards Albertans is really hosed, but you're doing a good job of demonstrating why they have that attitude. I'm from
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Albertas deficit could have been solved if only Notley had spent more money on government tenders..
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Do it ironically posted:Not that it matters because I'm probably going to be let go like most other people and then I'll move to another province, but the NDP hasn't done anything to support the private sector (mainly oil and gas) and all of the people losing jobs when there were opportunities to do so, as in give incentives on the short term as part of the royalty review till oil is more stable, push for an increased use of natural gas in Alberta, which we have an abundance of. where exactly should these public sector cuts go into effect?
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Franks Happy Place posted:What about when he's pointing at the suitcase of cash? Same answer. Bags of cash associated with little Billie are guaranteed to be haunted by the spirit of Faye Leung, Vancouver's crazy rich hat lady. Just not worth it to suddenly have her pop up and start shrieking "WHERE'S MY MONEY? YOU STOLE MY MONEY!!" when you're trying to kick back and enjoy your ill-gotten gains or flog your Disneyland knockoff. None may withstand the voice of an upset Faye. My Google-fu is failing me - I can't find an audio file of that telephone recording from the conflict of interest investigation. Or the rap/pop song she did later with some group or other. gently caress, this province is weird.
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Baronjutter posted:Imagine all the money that could be saved and all the private sector jobs created/saved if the government just fired all government workers and "contracted out" to get all the work done. That way no one would lose their jobs and the economy would be stimulated. Duh, government workers aren't real workers. They're just a bunch of women's studies majors and liberal arts students who couldn't make it in the Real World, and now only get in the way of Makers and Doers, which is of course when they can be bothered to do any work while at the job (rather than file grievances on behalf of whiny women, coloureds, indians, atheists and queers), which is of course only when they can be bothered to show up at all (rather than spending all their time on stress leave.) I know this because something something I saw a guy in a roads truck once. David Corbett fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 25, 2016 |
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Hexigrammus posted:Same answer. Bags of cash associated with little Billie are guaranteed to be haunted by the spirit of Faye Leung, Vancouver's crazy rich hat lady. Just not worth it to suddenly have her pop up and start shrieking "WHERE'S MY MONEY? YOU STOLE MY MONEY!!" when you're trying to kick back and enjoy your ill-gotten gains or flog your Disneyland knockoff. None may withstand the voice of an upset Faye. http://fayeleung.com/fantasygardens/ 
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PittTheElder posted:Meanwhile in Calgary, public consultation meetings on the SW Transitway have been cancelled because of threats to city employees. From what I can tell, the small group of people staunchly opposed to this are upset that transit might bring poor people to their neighbourhoods, and are loving livid about that. And everyone knows public transit only creates congestion. Jesus Christ. And I thought Hamilton's obstructionism towards public transit was bad.
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The only responses I've seen to this so far are "What about the middle class! This is classism, the middle man is getting screw while the rich and poor laugh at us with their fully paid for degrees!" Oh also the Middle Class Ontarioian is paying for immigrants educations.
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People are saying it punishes those who saved for the education of their children but I assume it's means tested based on parental income rather than educational assets so that wouldn't be the case.
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Mad Hamish posted:Jesus Christ. And I thought Hamilton's obstructionism towards public transit was bad. The problem is that Calgary Transit sucks so much that it's impossible not to hate them and want to kill them, no matter how you feel about transit in general. I love transit, and I would love to live in a city where transit were a usable option, but Calgary isn't that city. These people are assholes with stupid, bad opinions, but I enjoy them anyway because they are harassing city hall and Calgary Transit. The city should ignore their baseless complaints so that transit can actually get to a point where it's not an appalling embarrassment to our city and an affront to human dignity, but in the meantime I have no problem with Calgary Transit and the City and its workers being told to go gently caress themselves. That's pretty much the experience every Calgary Transit customer receives anyway, so turnaround is only fair play. EDIT: I should note this doesn't include threats of violence or actual violence, or any kind of sexual harassment. That's not cool. Calling them all a bunch of useless overpaid cunts is, though. PT6A fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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DariusLikewise posted:The only responses I've seen to this so far are "What about the middle class! This is classism, the middle man is getting screw while the rich and poor laugh at us with their fully paid for degrees!" Did the Liberals define which version of middle class they wanted to use for this? Is the the Trudeau middle class of 90k-210k that is totally deserving of tax breaks or is it the 25k-90k that gets trotted out when it means spending money?
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cowofwar posted:People are saying it punishes those who saved for the education of their children but I assume it's means tested based on parental income rather than educational assets so that wouldn't be the case. Given the record of this country with means testing (and how many handouts we give to the wealthy elderly) I wouldn't assume that.
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Another day another Provincial Government under investigation for corruption This time it's Manitoba though.
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Furnaceface posted:Did the Liberals define which version of middle class they wanted to use for this? Is the the Trudeau middle class of 90k-210k that is totally deserving of tax breaks or is it the 25k-90k that gets trotted out when it means spending money? This is the Ontario Liberals and grants are being given to families with less than 50k in income, so everyone is complaining about the plight of the 50k-100k middle class who are so downtrotten. bunnyofdoom posted:Another day another Provincial Government under investigation for corruption Selinger truly is an corrupt rear end in a top hat to take leadership of a party that had an 81% approval rating and a commanding majorty in 2007 to what it is today. DariusLikewise fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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DariusLikewise posted:This is the Ontario Liberals and grants are being given to families with less than 50k in income, so everyone is complaining about the plight of the 50k-100k middle class who are so downtrotten. To be fair, post secondary should be free for everyone regardless of income or social status.  50k still seems low but at this point its better than nothing. Im also assuming there are a bunch of other hilarious hoops to jump through like being between the ages of 18 and 21, having no part time work during your schooling or else you lose the funding, and maintaining an average grade of X which will limit the access to it even further. Because it would be the most OLP thing to do.
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Furnaceface posted:To be fair, post secondary should be free for everyone regardless of income or social status. This just leads to credential inflation and makes it even harder for low income individuals to catch a break.
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Jordan7hm posted:This just leads to credential inflation and makes it even harder for low income individuals to catch a break. That pretty much already happened. High school used to be enough to make a really good living back in the 1960s. Now you'd be hard pressed to get a good job with a high school diploma even if you do have hookups and connections.
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'Entry level position, 6 month contract with a possibility of contract extensions, no benefits, 35k annual compensation. minimum education level: PHD'
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Furnaceface posted:To be fair, post secondary should be free for everyone regardless of income or social status. Wouldn't universities themselves achieve this with their admissions? Does this extend to grad school?
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EvilJoven posted:'Entry level position, 6 month contract with a possibility of contract extensions, no benefits, 35k annual compensation. minimum education level: PHD' Junior positions already require 5 years experience
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EvilJoven posted:'Entry level position, 6 month contract with a possibility of contract extensions, no benefits, 35k annual compensation. minimum education level: PHD' You forgot "4+ years experience" in those requirements.
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Kraftwerk posted:That pretty much already happened. High school used to be enough to make a really good living back in the 1960s. Now you'd be hard pressed to get a good job with a high school diploma even if you do have hookups and connections. Can confirm. Your resume can be baller and you can have connections and references that have given talks at Harvard, but unless you can show you blew $50k on 4 years of partying then you're not even getting an interview. It's become quite depressing, I doubt I'll have the mental fortitude to avoid suicide past another ten years of this to be quite honest. EvilJoven posted:'Entry level position, 6 month contract with a possibility of contract extensions, no benefits, 35k annual compensation. minimum education level: PHD' I know guys with 15 years experience in their fields and masters degrees barely scraping $30k. This country is hosed.
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It's really hard to respond to complaints like that, when there's so much that goes into getting a job beyond just education and posted qualifications. My experience with going back to school (I graduate soon thank gently caress) has me really lamenting the lack of practical education we're providing people on how to network to get a job, and I have absolutely no idea how you teach that. How do you teach people that it's important to go out to mixers, or participate in clubs, or attend industry events, even if it doesn't result in a job this very second, because it's the attitude behind it that will get you the job.
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Point out that it's the schmucks who spent 4 years partying every night at Uni and skipped almost every class who are walking into $80k out the door while the studious ones are sitting unemployed on the bread line. If they can't logic out the connection there, they can't be helped anyways. Most people "get it" by the time they start nearing 30.  CLAM DOWN posted:If you're serious, seek therapy. Yeah, that'll help. "Mr. Counsellor, I feel a crushing despair because I am a talented and intelligent individual who can barely scrape by each month, because the workforce has decided to stack the cards against anyone who didn't attend university. Hell, even my friends who did go to university are barely getting ahead financially. Frankly it's become exhausting mentally and physically, and I don't want to be doing drudge work for poor wages when I hit 40, so I think it's wise that I quit before my body gives out and life gets even worse for me." A therapist isn't going to fix the underlying economic reality I was born into, ya dumb gently caress. Rime fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Rime posted:I doubt I'll have the mental fortitude to avoid suicide past another ten years of this to be quite honest. If you're serious, seek therapy.
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