Washout posted:

OMG it's like a Dragon and a Vulture had a baby with really bad hitboxes. This thing is still going to be fantastic with 8XSRM6+A it will just DESTROY people. I wonder what it's total height is going to be. I really want one but I'm not giving PGI any money. My latest beef is that they will never give you a MC or Cbill refund when they nerf mechs or game mechanics, what a backwards regressive customer service department they have.

Talmonis posted:

My newest hatred are the proliferation of Jenner II-C's. It seemed like every match last night had a wolfpack of 3 of the fuckers just appearing on the flank under ECM from a Cheetah and chewing their way inward through the battle line with SRM's & Small pulses. I want them to all to die. Tell me how I can make them all die, barring Streak-Crows.

EoRaptor posted:

Just 3 of them?


I was out front and got brutally run over.

Washout posted:

Yeah eliteing them is certainly the most necessary part when you are planning your purchases, but mastering them for the next weapon/mech slot is not something even most veteran players use very often.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Really my suggestion would be to start an account and play for a week or so. Buy whatever the gently caress appeals to you. Go nuts. Then, once you've figured some poo poo out, start a new account and go with what you find most fun. That's what I did and boy am I glad I did.

edit: what's the ghost heat threshold for SRM6s?

Washout posted:

AND 8 SRM6's!!!!!

Commoners posted:

Gonna be running nonartemis srm2s without fire control and will see how far it goes

Talmonis posted:

My newest hatred are the proliferation of Jenner II-C's. It seemed like every match last night had a wolfpack of 3 of the fuckers just appearing on the flank under ECM from a Cheetah and chewing their way inward through the battle line with SRM's & Small pulses. I want them to all to die. Tell me how I can make them all die, barring Streak-Crows.

Great Beer posted:

Was unironically doing this with a commando 2d the other day to try and tank my PSR. I failed because it turns out they're crazy accurate and fire fast.

Talmonis posted:

My newest hatred are the proliferation of Jenner II-C's. It seemed like every match last night had a wolfpack of 3 of the fuckers just appearing on the flank under ECM from a Cheetah and chewing their way inward through the battle line with SRM's & Small pulses. I want them to all to die. Tell me how I can make them all die, barring Streak-Crows.

Pattonesque posted:

https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/702969523238887424

Bushwacker? Flea? Stone Rhino?

Great Beer posted:

Jump to 3063 tech

Safety Factor posted:

That would get us the Hauptmann.

Pattonesque posted:

Commoners posted:

Run an awesome 8t with 4 lpl, xl 295, endo skeleton, and fill that bitch with std heat sinks. Aim for light legs with your arm lasers and you will cripple them in a 450m bubble around your assaults

Olesh posted:

I'll probably be running SRM4+As over SRM6s, personally, but 32 missiles a volley every 3 seconds is still a comedic level of damage, and 32 missiles with artemis is arguably better than 48 without. Maybe. We'll see.

Commoners posted:

Run an awesome 8t with 4 lpl, xl 295, endo skeleton, and fill that bitch with std heat sinks. Aim for light legs with your arm lasers and you will cripple them in a 450m bubble around your assaults

Olesh posted:

Everyone knows the comedy option is using Fire Control and 9 SRM2+As.

Really, though, you can fit 9 SRM4+A with 8 tons of ammo (although your armor will still be stock, i.e., not maxed), but moving from 9-8 launchers is 3 tons saved, and then going from SRM4s to 6s is 8 tons spent - Even dropping down to 6 tons of ammo, you still need to come up with more tonnage somewhere - and then there's the slot problem.

Sadly, 8xSRM6+A is 24 slots - between that and an XL engine, you can't even run endo steel if you want more than 4 tons of ammo - which, by the way, you can't _get_ without shrinking the engine (a bad idea) or running endo steel (which would then deny you the slots you need to actually field the missiles.

I'll probably be running SRM4+As over SRM6s, personally, but 32 missiles a volley every 3 seconds is still a comedic level of damage, and 32 missiles with artemis is arguably better than 48 without. Maybe. We'll see.

Supraluminal posted:

8 x non-Artemis SRM6 would let you run 8.5 tons of ammo, max armor, and a 340XL engine - the max for the chassis. With Speed Tweak you'd go 85kph. I feel like you could get so much up in people's grills with it, it might counterbalance the lack of Artemis. It would be scary as gently caress anyway.

Time will tell which is actually the more effective build but I think either will be a blast to play (gonna be a long wait until it's out for c-bills). I'm also very curious about what the quirks will be... probably some general missile buffs, and the 5W even comes with SRMs stock so there might be SRM-specific quirks.

By the way, as much as it's fun to theorycraft around how crazy this mech might be, it's pretty loving stupid that PGI expresses concerns about weapons boating, implements the broadly unpopular ghost heat system, but continues to add mechs with a billion of the same type of hardpoint to the game.

tarbrush posted:

Well yeah. So that you run 4xSRM4 4xLRM10 bracket builds and eventually just drat well play how Russ wants.

Yolomon Wayne posted:

So clan-PPCs prohibit acutators?
With lasers i can check them, PPCs uncheck the box.

Washout posted:

My damage numbers will be far superior to yours! It's all moot since I don't think either of us bought the Archer pack.

Supraluminal posted:

8 x non-Artemis SRM6 would let you run 8.5 tons of ammo, max armor, and a 340XL engine - the max for the chassis. With Speed Tweak you'd go 85kph. I feel like you could get so much up in people's grills with it, it might counterbalance the lack of Artemis. It would be scary as gently caress anyway.

Time will tell which is actually the more effective build but I think either will be a blast to play (gonna be a long wait until it's out for c-bills). I'm also very curious about what the quirks will be... probably some general missile buffs, and the 5W even comes with SRMs stock so there might be SRM-specific quirks.

By the way, as much as it's fun to theorycraft around how crazy this mech might be, it's pretty loving stupid that PGI expresses concerns about weapons boating, implements the broadly unpopular ghost heat system, but continues to add mechs with a billion of the same type of hardpoint to the game.

Olesh posted:

What I'm saying is, expect pubbies to be rolling out the gates with no Endo-Steel, 9xLRM5s, and 17.5 tons of ammo.

Olesh posted:

Since the game is actually fun for the moment, I don't mind throwing the occasional $20 PGI's way.


There's pretty much no way that this variant isn't going to be some kind of bananas. It's the first mech that has more than 6 missile hardpoints and it has the tonnage to make meaningful use of them in bulk.

With Endo-Steel and an XL 340 you have 32.5 tons and 27 slots to play with. If you keep the stock XL 280, you get 39 tons to play with. You'll be able to dump your missile load incredibly fast, although it's worth mentioning that it's going to run hot as balls. You won't shut down from an alpha strike, though, which means you can alpha people in the face or back and scuttle away giggling at the 103 damage alpha you just dropped. I'm seriously doubtful that we'll see any meaningful quirks on this mech.

What I'm saying is, expect pubbies to be rolling out the gates with no Endo-Steel, 9xLRM5s, and 17.5 tons of ammo.

Drythe posted:

I want an eight hatchet quad mech

Pattonesque posted:

could you, uh, could you fit 9 LRM20 on it

Banano posted:

is 6 tons of ams ammo too much?