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alf_pogs posted:well it has been just a great 48 hours for star citizen Agreed, CIG does keep delivering. Dry spells suck, but these moments make up for it. Edit: Wow, reading that thread over there is agravating and I have nothing invested in this. I'm mean what is this BS quote:Who cares how it happened? Let's just apply a positive pressure with reasonable arguments other than "QQ IT CHANGED" and see what happens. Complaining about the spilled milk isn't going to turn it into a second seat. $150? Really, they should just be okay with it? Matlock Birthmark fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 05:39
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Lime Tonics posted:They already edited the ships page. that's the same art as before though it's just really hard to see the two pilots because they're uncomfortably close together
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Feb 26, 2016 05:39
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Dusty Lens posted:Thanks Ben.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:40
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Klyith posted:that's the same art as before though They also lost the climate control along with the seat so the two pilots are huddled in a single spacesuit for warmth.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:40
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Someone needs to get in the thread and spreading the company truth. It has always been a single seat ship. Also, anyone who can't tell that Ben just spews out any verbal diarrhea on every topic, wether he understands it or has any information about it or not needs to get a bit less gullible.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:41
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Klyith posted:that's the same art as before though yea but they changed the max crew stat.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:42
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https://web.archive.org/web/20151003150447/https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/khartu/Khartu-Al Here's them selling it as a 2 seater
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Feb 26, 2016 05:43
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HKS posted:People are mad because the 2 seater implies 'real' multicrew and with shared controls. My body is ready for The Harvest.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:46
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Wafflz posted:https://web.archive.org/web/20151003150447/https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/khartu/Khartu-Al It remains insane to me that there is still so little of an actual game here that this might be the breaking point for some of the backers
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Feb 26, 2016 05:47
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Colostomy Bag posted:Oh for god sakes, that fur protects you when sitting on the back porch of the Starfarer during a refueling effort. I will fight you IRL
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Feb 26, 2016 05:47
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Tortolia posted:Some folks are a bit miffed that a ship they bought with a stated design, art, and design parameters of a two seater (and was on sale multiple times recently with that stated design) isn't actually a two seater as implemented. They delivered a significant portion of the ship.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:48
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I hope they add a rocking chair and pocketknife to the cash shop so one day in the future I can sit on the back porch of my jpeg and whittle a tiny jpeg.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:49
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MeLKoR posted:They delivered a significant portion of the ship. 
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Feb 26, 2016 05:49
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Wafflz posted:https://web.archive.org/web/20151003150447/https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/khartu/Khartu-Al Ha, that's pretty clearly them changing a 2 to a 1 after the sales ended. Good times. mp5 posted:It remains insane to me that there is still so little of an actual game here that this might be the breaking point for some of the backers Well in a way, they are now touching the jpegs they are selling. And what do these people have but the jpeg. Oh and some meaningless numbers. Matlock Birthmark fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 05:50
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Wafflz posted:https://web.archive.org/web/20151003150447/https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/khartu/Khartu-Al Apparently it also lost a kilogram, but now that it's minus one seat, shouldn't it have lost about 80?
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Feb 26, 2016 05:54
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ComfyPants posted:Apparently it also lost a kilogram, but now that it's minus one seat, shouldn't it have lost about 80? Dreams are heavy dude. They added more.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:55
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MeLKoR posted:You know I was thinking about this second seat debacle and it might not have been a gently caress up by Ben. I mean, we are all agreed that this "disappeared" story is a load of poo poo, right? What happened is that CIG has finally realized they have a mountain of work to do and not enough money to do it at current rates so they are simplifying everything. Now the question is, did Ben came up with this PR nightmare of a story all on is own? Did he just come up with it on the spot without considering the implications or was he ordered by Chris to fall on his sword and make the whole thing look like a mistake that "will be fixed later"? I think if anyone would be willing to sacrifice themselves and look like a complete moron in order to allow Chris Roberts to save face it would be Ben. Frankly it doesn't matter why he said it, he did and now the narrative is that the Director of Ships is so incompetent that he doesn't even know when a starship is missing a seat.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:58
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I think if anyone would be willing to sacrifice themselves and look like a complete moron in order to allow Chris Roberts to save face it would be Ben. Frankly it doesn't matter why he said it, he did and now the narrative is that the Director of Ships is so incompetent that he doesn't even know when a starship is missing a seat. Thanks Ben.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:00
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Guys, guys I got an idea... ...why not get Reddit to look for the missing spaceship-seat .jpeg? Reddit has already proven how clever they are, by connecting the dots between goon names being the same here as they are there...surely Redditors could find that .jpeg?
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Feb 26, 2016 06:00
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Wafflz posted:https://web.archive.org/web/20151003150447/https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/khartu/Khartu-Al I kept racking my brain all day, because the artwork for that ship looked so damned familiar: 
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Feb 26, 2016 06:01
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G0RF posted:
"Sorry, our ""devs"" were too busy going through dissenters PMs and reading other forums to do their jobs"
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Feb 26, 2016 06:04
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Dementropy posted:I kept racking my brain all day, because the artwork for that ship looked so damned familiar: Designed by a strange alien race called the oda'noM croberts is such a loving hack 
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Feb 26, 2016 06:05
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To cap off a day cram packed with adventure, it's another episode of Ask Sandi! 00:20 Intro 1:19 How is you acting career going? 2:54 How is the GamesCom Event coming together? 3:30 Are you working with sponsors? 4:56 Do you try to have merchandise available to purchase prior to events? 7:13 How is the Cos Play kit coming? 12:07 Are you planning a big event for Squadron 42 release? 13:14 How has your job changed over the last year? 14:44 HOTAS questions 18:08 When will there be more models like the Connie Model that is currently available? I am unable to watch it at the moment but I expect great things. How better to kick off a Q&A with the VP of Marketing of a $108M crowdfunded game than with questions about her outside acting career! G0RF fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 06:07
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I think if anyone would be willing to sacrifice themselves and look like a complete moron in order to allow Chris Roberts to save face it would be Ben. Frankly it doesn't matter why he said it, he did and now the narrative is that the Director of Ships is so incompetent that he doesn't even know when a starship is missing a seat. It's pointless to speculate on the thought process behind his excuse, but it seems obvious to me that the intent of the post wasn't to take the blame, but to place it elsewhere. And he fully expected shitizens would be thanking him for 'getting to the bottom of this', even as he uses the vaguest language possible to wiggle out of actually fixing the ship in the future (which probably can't be done easily if you consider the reasons for it deliberately being turned into a 1-seater in the first place)
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Feb 26, 2016 06:17
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Lime Tonics posted:It's not bait and switch because it alpha, will never not be funny. The page, clearly states all specs are subject to change 
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Feb 26, 2016 06:17
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G0RF posted:To cap off a day cram packed with adventure, it's another episode of Ask Sandi! Lord thou giveth in mysterious ways but thine grace is great on this day
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Feb 26, 2016 06:17
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I think if anyone would be willing to sacrifice themselves and look like a complete moron in order to allow Chris Roberts to save face it would be Ben. Frankly it doesn't matter why he said it, he did and now the narrative is that the Director of Ships is so incompetent that he doesn't even know when a starship is missing a seat. Yeah I think this answers my question earlier - Ben will (temporarily, until he can shift the blame onto others) take the heat for this so that nothing sticks to Crobberts. I thought this could be a breaking point of sorts but there isn't one. If I didn't see all these things happen in real time I never would have guessed this is a real story of game development. The other amazing thing about Star Citizen is that I don't even know what will come next, and no prediction is too outlandish.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:18
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Nicholas posted:It's pointless to speculate on the thought process behind his excuse, but it seems obvious to me that the intent of the post wasn't to take the blame, but to place it elsewhere. And he fully expected shitizens would be thanking him for 'getting to the bottom of this', even as he uses the vaguest language possible to wiggle out of actually fixing the ship in the future (which probably can't be done easily if you consider the reasons for it deliberately being turned into a 1-seater in the first place) Good point. It could very well be that he is so inept and incompetent that he really did think he was doing something that would assuage concerns.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:20
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Jason Sextro posted:The other amazing thing about Star Citizen is that I don't even know what will come next, and no prediction is too outlandish. There will be a concept ship sale. The ships promised specs and role will be amazing. Goons will laugh and say "jesus chris who will be dumb enough to give them money for a jpeg after all this other poo poo" and then they raise 1.5 million dollars in a weekend.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:22
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Ben's been too occupied archiving all the Wing Commander documents to have time to focus on spaceship design.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:22
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Nicholas posted:There will be a concept ship sale. The ships promised specs and role will be amazing. Goons will laugh and say "jesus chris who will be dumb enough to give them money for a jpeg after all this other poo poo" and then they raise 1.5 million dollars in a weekend. in my minds eye i can see them pitching this impromptu sale as a form of apology
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Feb 26, 2016 06:23
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Oh, aye, some rear end in a top hat has blown in out of nowhere on Information Redux and picked a fight with me over my comment Steve Jobs' reality distortion field migrated to CIG upon his death. His entire strategy seems to be "NUH UH! NO! YOU!" http://www.informationredux.com/index.php/2016/01/25/star-citizens-star-marine-module-officially-cancelled/#comment-2534898335
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Feb 26, 2016 06:27
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alf_pogs posted:in my minds eye i can see them pitching this impromptu sale as a form of apology so 100% chance of it happening
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Feb 26, 2016 06:29
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fuctifino posted:Ben's been too occupied archiving all the Wing Commander documents to have time to focus on spaceship design. he's the pregnant woman from that philandering architect episode of Law and Order: Criminal Intent, where CR is the architect.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:31
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In the Batigirl interview, Sandi says that it's far easier to work an extra 2 hours each day than to hire 3-4 extra people. And she implied she does't have any dates or milestones within the game (probably because there are none full-stop). She loses her composure whilst talking (at around 14m mark), and I'd love for GORF to do one of his great analysis of the interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRxdNDqwXvY
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Feb 26, 2016 06:33
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Good point. It could very well be that he is so inept and incompetent that he really did think he was doing something that would assuage concerns. I think its more of an honest mistake. After all, Ben probably doesn't know what assuage means and just went with it because he thought it was another of Sandis fat 'jokes'.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:34
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I adore everything about this. The ship doubled in size from the concept, yet somehow only has room for half the expected crew? Its armament is now just 33% of what was promised? Its only unique features—the fancy open-winged flight mode and magic see-thru cockpit—were both axed? AND they knew all of this but still sold the ship as the original concept just a couple weeks ago? Absolutely beautiful. And I thought the gulf between expectation and reality for the Cutlass was bad. Literally none of the three concept art pieces still on their site in any way reflects the reality of what was delivered. For $150. And I love what Lesnick had to say about it. It's either abject mismanagement at every possible level, or CIG are just shameless liars. Or both. It's both. It's so loving cool that every CIG fuckup is like a beautiful little microcosm of all of their problems, from their chronic lack of defined scope, to inept management, to disastrously-poor PR.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:40
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fuctifino posted:In the Batigirl interview, Sandi says that it's far easier to work an extra 2 hours each day than to hire 3-4 extra people. And she implied she does't have any dates or milestones within the game (probably because there are none full-stop). She loses her composure whilst talking (at around 14m mark), and I'd love for GORF to do one of his great analysis of the interview
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