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That Gobbo posted:I'm glad I picked up that 3 AMS Kit Fox. If we only got points for shooting down LRM.
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Raged posted:If we only got points for shooting down LRM. God that would be great and go a long way to fixing the LRM issue. Do that and everyone would have a reason to fit an AMS, which would make LRM spam much less effective.
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Feb 26, 2016 02:38
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Cyrano4747 posted:God that would be great and go a long way to fixing the LRM issue. Do that and everyone would have a reason to fit an AMS, which would make LRM spam much less effective. I'm not sure LRM spam needs to be any more ineffective than it already is.
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Feb 26, 2016 02:41
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Banano posted:is 6 tons of ams ammo too much? Way too much. That stupid triple AMS Nova I'm running has three tons of ammo, and I've only almost run out of ammo once so far, and it has Unhappy Meal fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 03:17
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Astroniomix posted:I'm not sure LRM spam needs to be any more ineffective than it already is. It's only ineffective if the pilot is bad. Sit all the way in the back shooting? You are useless. Running around with TAG and some other weapons and shooting at mid range and you are putting out a lot of damage. As a joke I put 5 mpl and 2 LRM 15 on a marauder and ran with a group. It actually worked well. There are better builds, but it was so much better than sitting in the back. Would be just horrible if people spammed Russ's Town Hall with comments about the ban wave. Raged fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 03:19
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Raged posted:Would be just horrible if people spammed Russ's Town Hall with comments about the ban wave.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:29
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Raged posted:It's only ineffective if the pilot is bad. Sit all the way in the back shooting? You are useless. Running around with TAG and some other weapons and shooting at mid range and you are putting out a lot of damage. As a joke I put 5 mpl and 2 LRM 15 on a marauder and ran with a group. It actually worked well. There are better builds, but it was so much better than sitting in the back. The issue is there is nothing LRMs do that a large laser doesn't do better.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:45
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Astroniomix posted:The issue is there is nothing LRMs do that a large laser doesn't do better. Screen shake. I mean, I'm not advocating LRMs, but large lasers just aren't as disruptive as LRMs.
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Feb 26, 2016 04:02
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Astroniomix posted:The issue is there is nothing LRMs do that a large laser doesn't do better. True but using the same weapons over and over again on every mech is boring. I know some people here stroke out if the most optimised meta build isn't used. I do quite well in most matches but I also have fun builds to play with too. Not stupid builds though..... gently caress those people
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Feb 26, 2016 04:06
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Astroniomix posted:The issue is there is nothing LRMs do that a large laser doesn't do better. Indirect fire and forcing folks into specific cover or to close range. Those are pretty useful tools. Not as good as pure damage on target, but there's more than enough if that coming from the other 11 'mechs. Hopefully. I get a real kick out of goons complaining simultaneously about lrms being awful weapons when they use them and super over powered hell raining down on them when the enemy does. You're right though that when it's your pubs using them they're almost universally useless (b/c goons refuse to support lrms and self handicap)
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Feb 26, 2016 04:19
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Raged posted:True but using the same weapons over and over again on every mech is boring. I know some people here stroke out if the most optimised meta build isn't used. I do quite well in most matches but I also have fun builds to play with too. Not stupid builds though..... gently caress those people What are some fun builds you have? I feel like I'm at a point with MWO where I've used a build with mostly every type of weapon and most of them feel boring. Only thing I'd like to try now is the Mauler since you can shove tons of weapons onto it.
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Feb 26, 2016 04:23
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The lrm hunchback build a kind goon posted here is great. It makes for relaxed solo pubbing and does great at medium ranges.
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Feb 26, 2016 04:24
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JacksAngryBiome posted:The lrm hunchback build a kind goon posted here is great. It makes for relaxed solo pubbing and does great at medium ranges. The -4J is about as good as an LRM 'mech gets because its fire rate quirks make up for the weaknesses of the weapon. It's also fast, has a high energy mount so it can TAG targets from relative safety, and it only takes up 50 tons so it's not like you're dropping in a lurm Atlas right heck even its energy quirks are p. good so you can defend yourself
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Feb 26, 2016 04:30
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Random Number posted:Indirect fire and forcing folks into specific cover or to close range. Those are pretty useful tools. Not as good as pure damage on target, but there's more than enough if that coming from the other 11 'mechs. Hopefully. Where has anyone been complaining about LRMs being overpowered?
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Feb 26, 2016 04:43
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Astroniomix posted:Where has anyone been complaining about LRMs being overpowered? The dude who runs metamechs seems to have a serious beef with them, like in the Mauler mastery article.
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Feb 26, 2016 04:55
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Sard posted:The dude who runs metamechs seems to have a serious beef with them, like in the Mauler mastery article. he doesn't think they're overpowered, he just thinks they're dumb, especially on something like a Mauler which is better off loaded with autocannons
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Feb 26, 2016 05:00
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Sard posted:The dude who runs metamechs seems to have a serious beef with them, like in the Mauler mastery article. Poor word choice on my part but I meant where are "goons" complaining about LRMs being overpowered. Also the hunchback is one of the few mechs I would actually run LRMs on. My point remains however, that LRMs don't need to be made weaker.
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Feb 26, 2016 05:12
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Actually I did see two LRM Jenner-IICs wreck face recently. There's an argument there for them in bigger maps
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Feb 26, 2016 05:33
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http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/223093-ban-wave-tomorrow/quote:An Obvious cheater posted They can pretty much ban that poster and anyone who likes the post and save some time. Raged fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Feb 26, 2016 06:18
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That program that optimizes or sets your firing rate and orders, do you just say 7ms and that will be the delay for every shot or can you stagger and syncopate it to customize your hail of ac/2s? I want to know if I can get an autofire program and slap it on an all ac2 mech and have every time I pull the trigger and rattle someone's cockpit they reverberate to darude sandstorm. I would toss in one medium laser for that occasional high note.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:23
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Astroniomix posted:Where has anyone been complaining about LRMs being overpowered? Have you ever played a match with goons against a lrm heavy team? The bitching and feeling of helplessness is palpable. It's not an explicit thing I'll grant, but references to lrmageddons clearly show that some goons think the platform is broken onr an overpowered manner.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:27
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I'd bet that some goons think all sorts of things.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:28
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The Saddest Robot posted:Yeah, there will be no avoiding the LRMageddon. We are going to have to embrace the insanity. Get your triple AMS Nova's ahead of schedule, then. Kit foxes can do it as well, while carrying ECM for your friends, but then you're driving a kit fox. Are there any double ams mechs that are worth using on their own merits?
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Feb 26, 2016 07:05
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TheParadigm posted:Get your triple AMS Nova's ahead of schedule, then. Kit foxes can do it as well, while carrying ECM for your friends, but then you're driving a kit fox. Random Number posted:Have you ever played a match with goons against a lrm heavy team? The bitching and feeling of helplessness is palpable. It's not an explicit thing I'll grant, but references to lrmageddons clearly show that some goons think the platform is broken onr an overpowered manner. Whenever I play against an LRM heavy team we either circle around behind and pick them off or goon rush and stomp them. Teams using LRMs are putting themselves at a huge disadvantage in the brawl by using LRMs. I'd say most goons get mad at the pubbies who decide to cower behind a rock worrying about getting their paint scratched rather than be complaining that the LRMs were overpowered, if anything we all hate them because they are literally terrible by every metric, promote a camping playstyle, and make your team weaker just by mounting them. Especially when idiots put them on assaults, which pubbies love to do. Washout fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Or you could just duck behind a wall, take advantage of ECM, use the radar deprevation module. My favorite is when someone gets NARCED and just sits safely in cover as an endless stream of missiles does nothing. On another note, the 2 Flamer/2 small pules/2 SRM4 Arctic Cheetah is pretty hot. 
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Feb 26, 2016 07:18
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Washout posted:There is a Stalker that can use 2, quite a few mechs can mount 2 AMS actually. I have literally witnessed you rage quit because your direwolf got focused down by lrms.
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Feb 26, 2016 07:19
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Random Number posted:I have literally witnessed you rage quit because your direwolf got focused down by lrms. It probably took a full 2 minutes of constant bombardment from about 5-6 enemy mechs to go down. If anything I'd wager his quitting had more to do with watching you guys try to poke at the LRM mechs with SRMs and AC/20s; goons have a bad habit of that.
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Feb 26, 2016 07:27
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Random Number posted:I have literally witnessed you rage quit because your direwolf got focused down by lrms. I always rage quit after playing dire wolves, getting killed by the LRMS was totally secondary.
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Feb 26, 2016 07:30
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I bought the Archer pack but I was only planning on using large pulses and SRMs. gently caress LRMs. Seriously. That won't stop the pubbies using them in their special snowflake builds of course.
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TheParadigm posted:Get your triple AMS Nova's ahead of schedule, then. Kit foxes can do it as well, while carrying ECM for your friends, but then you're driving a kit fox. There is a laser vomit Grasshopper you can shove dual ams on.
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Feb 26, 2016 08:09
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DancingShade posted:I bought the Archer pack but I was only planning on using large pulses and SRMs. Me and a few other goons plan on playing several triple AMS Novas on the same team when the Archer is released.
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So LRMs are both useless and at the same time overpowered. Also AMS counters LRMs so theyre useless, but you should never ever take AMS cause its useless. Im stil lhaving good success on my 2x3xLRM5 MadDog, the reload is baller. Especially when the team is blobbing up and you cant direct fire anywhere that is NOT the backside of a friendly. But ill never again field LRMs higher than 10 again, ive learned that. Still i think i will at one point try an archer with 9xLRM5 and chainfire. I will call him either "Nebelwerfer" or "Stuka zu Fuss", havent decided yet.
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Feb 26, 2016 08:29
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Yolomon Wayne posted:So LRMs are both useless and at the same time overpowered. You bring shame to your family
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Feb 26, 2016 08:37
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Raged posted:You bring shame to your family I regard you guys as my family, and tehres no shame i could bring that wasnt done already. Ha!
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Feb 26, 2016 08:50
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Washout posted:I always rage quit after playing dire wolves, getting killed by the LRMS was totally secondary. Is blaming goons when you lose tertiary? That's always been a common thing with you too.
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Feb 26, 2016 08:56
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Skoll posted:Is blaming goons when you lose tertiary? That's always been a common thing with you too.  I just say, taking a break guys, and alt-F4. You read too much into it. A lot of goons use poo poo builds and do make the team lose tho. I play with other units and they win way more when in larger groups. My thing is I like small 4 mans with max tonnage to exploit the fact you can get 5-6 assaults on your team.
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Feb 26, 2016 09:11
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Washout posted:
I play lots of CW and the most common thing i see is 9 guys with the same clan tag. So, are they dropping in groups of 3 to optimize loadout somehow?
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Feb 26, 2016 09:22
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Yolomon Wayne posted:I play lots of CW and the most common thing i see is 9 guys with the same clan tag.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:I play lots of CW and the most common thing i see is 9 guys with the same clan tag. If your in a group doing CW and you decide to drop out and play some pub games or it's cease fire, everyone will still continue to drop in heavies with max skills and 20m worth of modules on all of them. A full team of 8 heavies with optimized load outs and max skills has a hard time losing in pub games. Contrast that with a pile of random mechs that are mostly unskilled in a large goon group and you can see why we often have large losing streaks. A 4 man group with max tonnage is immune to that though, your team will then often end up with 5-6 assaults because you are bringing 3 and the pubs always bring at least two more, then the tonnage just leads into a stomp because you have so much more armor across the team.
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See there is this thing called FUN. You can have fun with something called FRIENDS. Most of the time shooting the poo poo and doing stupid things and laughing about it is fun. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose but as long as you have fun it doesn't really matter. People who sit and whine and bitch the whole match are not fun and should find like minded spergs who get angry about video games. So in closing if you don't want to play with goons who are having fun then don't. I can say from experience that when you quit out on a team people are happy because you are not constantly complaining anymore. Raged fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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