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I love Connor Hawke so I'm predictably glad he exists and is the future GA, though honestly they probably coulda just gone with an adult William for this part. Or...poo poo, if they had Connor be William in the first place. I think Connor being John Jr. was probably the best we could hope for with what we were given, but it still ends up a little weird 'cuz like, okay, so where does the alias Connor Hawke come from? Internet name generator? Why not at least have him be Connor Diggle? That scene just felt kinda random. I did like how everything ended, with an Oliver and a Diggle out to fix the city, like how it all began.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Love triangle subplot was dumb. Shame they couldn't give them anything else to do. At least it was played for laughs and is, hopefully, contained to just this episode.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:38
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Mick is still the best. Mick should take out Savage next episode and become the new over-arching threat.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:38
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howe_sam posted:At least it was played for laughs and is, hopefully, contained to just this episode. Yea. It wasn't aggressively terrible like the Arrow love plots, but just kinda meh. Please god let it be a one off thing though.
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Feb 26, 2016 03:42
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BrianWilly posted:I love Connor Hawke so I'm predictably glad he exists and is the future GA, though honestly they probably coulda just gone with an adult William for this part. Or...poo poo, if they had Connor be William in the first place. I think Connor being John Jr. was probably the best we could hope for with what we were given, but it still ends up a little weird 'cuz like, okay, so where does the alias Connor Hawke come from? Internet name generator? Why not at least have him be Connor Diggle? That scene just felt kinda random. Maybe Lyla comes up with The Hawke as her cool Argus code name because Waller was The Wall. 
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Ville Valo posted:Maybe Lyla comes up with The Hawke as her cool Argus code name because Waller was The Wall. I thought she was Harbinger? Edit: Lol Rip look so bored while Connor and Oliver and Sara have an emotional reunion. Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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howe_sam posted:At least it was played for laughs and is, hopefully, contained to just this episode. Watching Bag of Hormones and Dorky White Guy competing to hook up with Hawkgirl (who clearly just wants everyone to leave her the gently caress alone) was probably the most fun I've had on a "love triange" arc like this and I have every confidence that "aawwwwww you got me buddy  " thing at the end means we will never seen a reprise.This show is so great  Now can we go back in time and prevent Felicity from dying her hair blonde and getting that weird medical condition where her voice quivers all the time?
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What year did this future take place? I thought they said 2046 but for that to be true how is grant wilson so young if he mentioned by slade 35 years prior.
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Next time on the adventures of Senior Citizen Green Arrow.
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Cute n Popular posted:Next time on the adventures of Senior Citizen Green Arrow. They need a new mayor after all the gangs are routed and it's basically Ollie and the Question yelling at each other for two months.
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Feb 26, 2016 06:35
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Chokes McGee posted:They need a new mayor after all the gangs are routed and it's basically Ollie and the Question yelling at each other for two months. I'd watch it.
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Feb 26, 2016 07:10
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Heatwave taking the bosses jacket and becoming the new boss was great. I love Heatwave and Capt Cold.
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I'm really disappointed that Ollie didn't fire arrows with his mouth. That would have been so good. It was still great, but it could have been so much better.
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King of Solomon posted:I'm really disappointed that Ollie didn't fire arrows with his mouth. That would have been so good. I realize you're trying to say he'd be holding the bowstring with his teeth or something, but the image I have in my mind from your comment is oh so much better and I'm just not willing to give it up. I'm also disappointed we didn't get to see this.
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King of Solomon posted:I'm really disappointed that Ollie didn't fire arrows with his mouth. That would have been so good. Protip: the force required to pull a tooth is a lot less than the force required to draw those bows.
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Kesper North posted:Protip: the force required to pull a tooth is a lot less than the force required to draw those bows. Just splash a little mirakuru on those teeth.
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I'm not done watching the episode yet but old Oliver Queen looks like loving Peter O'Toole in Man of La Mancha.
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RedneckwithGuns posted:I'm not done watching the episode yet but old Oliver Queen looks like loving Peter O'Toole in Man of La Mancha. Arrow would be loving fantastic as a live musical stage production. Write a new show each week, break some ground.
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Kesper North posted:Protip: the force required to pull a tooth is a lot less than the force required to draw those bows. I'm sure they could have figured something out using specially designed props or CGI. Neat information anyway. Kinda obvious when you think about it.
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XboxPants posted:Arrow would be loving fantastic as a live musical stage production. Write a new show each week, break some ground. I guarantee that Barrowman's been pushing for this since day one of production
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King of Solomon posted:I'm really disappointed that Ollie didn't fire arrows with his mouth. That would have been so good. He lost his left arm in this version, so it's more likely he'd be holding the bow with his teeth. I'd have dug a Berserk-style cyborg-wrist-crossbow, though.
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CainsDescendant posted:I guarantee that Barrowman's been pushing for this since day one of production That's gonna be the big Arrow / Flash / Supergirl crossover - the villain will be Neil Patrick Harris reprising his role as Music Meister from Batman: The Brave and the Bold.
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Best episode of the series by far, and I don't think its a coincidence that its the only one to not have Vandal Savage in it.
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SalTheBard posted:Heatwave taking the bosses jacket and becoming the new boss was great. I love Heatwave and Capt Cold. I liked how brutal and instantaneous that was. Take out the alpha male and the whole gang follows the new guy without even knowing who he is. And Caity was badass again. Great episode even though the comedy relief of the high school relationship storyline was silly.
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I can't remember if they covered it but did they just out Oliver Queen as Green Arrow to Captain Cold and Heatwave? Kinda seems like a dick move given that they'll inevitably end up back in their own timelines.
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It's not like Oliver actually keeps his secret identity secret, they would have learned it within 5 minutes of entering Star City anyway Damien Dahrk is the only guy who doesn't know
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Feb 26, 2016 14:33
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More shows should take the Supergirl approach to secret identities. That being, "only keep it a secret from the proven vindictive characters with the ability to out you to the world."
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Feb 26, 2016 14:46
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Kegslayer posted:I can't remember if they covered it but did they just out Oliver Queen as Green Arrow to Captain Cold and Heatwave? Kinda seems like a dick move given that they'll inevitably end up back in their own timelines. Harrison Wells figured it out in about 30 seconds last season on The Flash (though he probably just went into his time bunker and asked Gideon).
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Didn't they just call him Oliver? Not that it would be too hard to put together at that point anyway. There's probably a few Ollie's in star city, but not too many that know Ray Palmer, and the Lance family. Really, Capitan Cold would be a hero on Arrow, what with the no killing rule, and having some sense of honor.
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Soothing Vapors posted:It's not like Oliver actually keeps his secret identity secret, they would have learned it within 5 minutes of entering Star City anyway its probably on the city's welcome sign at this point
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Dead Snoopy posted:its probably on the city's welcome sign at this point Welcome to Star City Pop. 500,000 Oliver Queen is the Green Arrow Don't Tell
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8one6 posted:Welcome to Star City
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OB_Juan posted:Really, Capitan Cold would be a hero on Arrow, what with the no killing rule, and having some sense of honor. He's practically already a hero at this point. He's basically just making excuses to everyone now, "I'm totally not a good guy bro, seriously! Look, I stole this wallet I'm evil.". Nephthys fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Snart is definitely an anti hero at this point, sorta like Catwoman, rather than an out and out villain.
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Anyone notice Rory not firing at all during the rescue. They're so setting up a showdown.
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I guess the Arrowverse has set up Cold as a bad guy with possibly some hidden good guy impulses. Maybe. But a better argument against Mick would be that in the wasteland future, there'd be nothing really worth stealing. The Rogues don't lead gangs, they just steal stuff, because they like stealing stuff. I get that things have to be changed for purposes of visual adaptation, and fidelity to comic books isn't important at all. I don't get Cold's motivation, though, unless this is a lead-up to him being Citizen Cold.
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Jack of Hearts posted:I guess the Arrowverse has set up Cold as a bad guy with possibly some hidden good guy impulses. Maybe. But a better argument against Mick would be that in the wasteland future, there'd be nothing really worth stealing. The Rogues don't lead gangs, they just steal stuff, because they like stealing stuff. I thought Mick said he isn't all about stealing he just wants to watch the world burn. Stealing is just a convienant way of causing chaos while being able to be lazy after while you sit on stacks of cash
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Bad Moon posted:I thought Mick said he isn't all about stealing he just wants to watch the world burn. Stealing is just a convienant way of causing chaos while being able to be lazy after while you sit on stacks of cash Mick wants to destroy. He's an arsonist at heart and steals only to be able to burn more. Cold is a thief and enjoys the "game" and the challenge that comes with being a thief. In a lawless world, while there's a bounty to steal, there's no challenge and Cold needs that challenge.
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